Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

(07-30-2016 10:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

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(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

Well, it's about to gain by 4. Twice as much as has been let in (net) since 1998.

(07-30-2016 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

Site gave me a virus pop up. Thanks

If true - Thanks for the warning... I'm not clicking it.

(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

As did EVERYONE in the AAC for one year.

(07-30-2016 10:24 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

Site gave me a virus pop up. Thanks

If true - Thanks for the warning... I'm not clicking it.

No pop-up for me, but I do have an ad blocker.

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(07-30-2016 10:24 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

Site gave me a virus pop up. Thanks

If true - Thanks for the warning... I'm not clicking it.

Yeah one of those a virus has been detected things. Not much too it really. Click bait blog. Desperation type evidence if you are a south fla fan.

(07-30-2016 10:24 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

Site gave me a virus pop up. Thanks

If true - Thanks for the warning... I'm not clicking it.

Its the Tampa Bay Times site. Its just an article that compares USF attendance to some other B12 candidates over the last 11 years. Of course, those numbers dont really tell us much as most of that time USF was playing in a BCS league against P5 opponents while the other candidates were in lesser non-power conferences playing other G5's. The reality is the last 3 years has proven any of the AAC teams would do just fine in a P5 conference. There is really no argument about that.

(07-30-2016 10:38 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

As did EVERYONE in the AAC for one year.

technically yes, you are correct. but everyone understood that it was a transition year and not a permanent status change for those teams. big difference. The real surprise will be if the BigXII selects a school that has never been a legitimate member of the good ol boys club at some point in the past.

(07-31-2016 12:51 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:24 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/thin...in/2287511

Site gave me a virus pop up. Thanks

If true - Thanks for the warning... I'm not clicking it.

Its the Tampa Bay Times site. Its just an article that compares USF attendance to some other B12 candidates over the last 11 years. Of course, those numbers dont really tell us much as most of that time USF was playing in a BCS league against P5 opponents while the other candidates were in lesser non-power conferences playing other G5's. The reality is the last 3 years has proven any of the AAC teams would do just fine in a P5 conference. There is really no argument about that.

Of course, this writer did not use actual attendance figures that his own paper posts after every game...as USF has for the last 10-12 years inflated attendance at EACH game by around 10,000-12,000 per game.

This USF site posts actual attendance average for every season and ALL USF Games thru 2013:
http://www.thedailystampede.com/2014/1/1...f-football

From writer's own newspaper, here are the figures for the last 2 years:

For 2014:
USF 2014 Attendance: Actual and Announced

Western Carolina: 21,946 (announced 31,651)
Maryland: 19,926 (28,915)
NC State: 17,198 (27,269)
UCONN: 11,599 (28,273)
ECU: 21,750 for Homecoming (31,567)
Houston: 15,435 (29,782)
UCF: 27,368 (36,963)
----------------------------------------------------
Announced: 30,694
Actual: 19,317

For 2015
2015 USF Actual & Announced Attendance

USF vs FAMU 21,928 (announced: 30,434)
USF vs Memphis 14,305 (announced: 22,546)
USF vs Syracuse 18,039 (announced: 27,325)
USF vs SMU 15,157 (announced 24,338)
USF vs Temple 18,470 (announced 28,393)
USF vs Cincinnati 18,889 (announced 26,522)
______________________________________
Announced: 26,758
Average Actual: 17,798

Attendance is a nice figure, but any P5 conference is confident their teams will increase attendance at any venue because they are better than previous competition. Anyone writing in a column or online that attendance will be a key factor is easily ignored...if attendance is a decision factor it is far down the list.


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(07-30-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

Well, it's about to gain by 4. Twice as much as has been let in (net) since 1998.

Actually it's 3, unless UCONN is one of the 4. Then it's 2.

(07-31-2016 09:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

Well, it's about to gain by 4. Twice as much as has been let in (net) since 1998.

Actually it's 3, unless UCONN is one of the 4. Then it's 2.

Which one of UC, UM, UH and BYU was in the BCS in 1998? From the 1998 BCS membership, Temple was kicked out, and Utah, UL and TCU were added. Net 2.

The ones who were in AFTER 1998 and are out now I'm not counting (UConn, UC, USF). There is a net 2 more schools in the P5 right now than were in the BCS when it started in 1998.

(07-31-2016 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

Well, it's about to gain by 4. Twice as much as has been let in (net) since 1998.

Actually it's 3, unless UCONN is one of the 4. Then it's 2.

Which one of UC, UM, UH and BYU was in the BCS in 1998? From the 1998 BCS membership, Temple was kicked out, and Utah, UL and TCU were added. Net 2.

The ones who were in AFTER 1998 and are out now I'm not counting (UConn, UC, USF). There is a net 2 more schools in the P5 right now than were in the BCS when it started in 1998.

Well look at you. Just shredded your own argument and I didn't have to do a thing.

(07-31-2016 09:54 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:54 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

At the end of the day realignment is just shuffling the deck chairs, no real progress is being made.

Well, it's about to gain by 4. Twice as much as has been let in (net) since 1998.

Actually it's 3, unless UCONN is one of the 4. Then it's 2.

Which one of UC, UM, UH and BYU was in the BCS in 1998? From the 1998 BCS membership, Temple was kicked out, and Utah, UL and TCU were added. Net 2.

The ones who were in AFTER 1998 and are out now I'm not counting (UConn, UC, USF). There is a net 2 more schools in the P5 right now than were in the BCS when it started in 1998.

Well look at you. Just shredded your own argument and I didn't have to do a thing.

Huh? The BCS has had a net gain of 2 schools since 1998. They are about to add 4 more. Not sure what part of that you think got shredded.

Read PerimeterPost's reply #1201 at the top of this page. Same thing:

Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

Three other schools jumped in AFTER 1998, and are out now, so we aren't counting those. We are talking NET.

(07-31-2016 09:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:54 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Well, it's about to gain by 4. Twice as much as has been let in (net) since 1998.

Actually it's 3, unless UCONN is one of the 4. Then it's 2.

Which one of UC, UM, UH and BYU was in the BCS in 1998? From the 1998 BCS membership, Temple was kicked out, and Utah, UL and TCU were added. Net 2.

The ones who were in AFTER 1998 and are out now I'm not counting (UConn, UC, USF). There is a net 2 more schools in the P5 right now than were in the BCS when it started in 1998.

Well look at you. Just shredded your own argument and I didn't have to do a thing.

Huh? The BCS has had a net gain of 2 schools since 1998. They are about to add 4 more. Not sure what part of that you think got shredded.

Read PerimeterPost's reply #1201 at the top of this page. Same thing:

Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

Three other schools jumped in AFTER 1998, and are out now, so we aren't counting those. We are talking NET.

You said "since 1998", then when I pointed out how wrong you were, you moved the goalposts and claimed "in 1998". Shredding your own argument without me having to da a thing.

(07-31-2016 10:07 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:54 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Actually it's 3, unless UCONN is one of the 4. Then it's 2.

Which one of UC, UM, UH and BYU was in the BCS in 1998? From the 1998 BCS membership, Temple was kicked out, and Utah, UL and TCU were added. Net 2.

The ones who were in AFTER 1998 and are out now I'm not counting (UConn, UC, USF). There is a net 2 more schools in the P5 right now than were in the BCS when it started in 1998.

Well look at you. Just shredded your own argument and I didn't have to do a thing.

Huh? The BCS has had a net gain of 2 schools since 1998. They are about to add 4 more. Not sure what part of that you think got shredded.

Read PerimeterPost's reply #1201 at the top of this page. Same thing:

Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

Three other schools jumped in AFTER 1998, and are out now, so we aren't counting those. We are talking NET.

You said "since 1998", then when I pointed out how wrong you were, you moved the goalposts and claimed "in 1998". Shredding your own argument without me having to da a thing.

Wow, that's an impressively overwhelming argument.

I was simply trying to make it slightly easier for you to understand. No different than perimeterpost's earlier reply.

(07-31-2016 10:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 10:07 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:54 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Which one of UC, UM, UH and BYU was in the BCS in 1998? From the 1998 BCS membership, Temple was kicked out, and Utah, UL and TCU were added. Net 2.

The ones who were in AFTER 1998 and are out now I'm not counting (UConn, UC, USF). There is a net 2 more schools in the P5 right now than were in the BCS when it started in 1998.

Well look at you. Just shredded your own argument and I didn't have to do a thing.

Huh? The BCS has had a net gain of 2 schools since 1998. They are about to add 4 more. Not sure what part of that you think got shredded.

Read PerimeterPost's reply #1201 at the top of this page. Same thing:

Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the BCS (1998): 62
Number of schools in the Power conferences in the first year of the CFP (2004): 64

The only changes between the two years were Temple moving down and L'ville, Utah and TCU moving up. 3 other schools- Cinci, UConn, USF, spent time in a power conference during the BCS era but are currently out.

Three other schools jumped in AFTER 1998, and are out now, so we aren't counting those. We are talking NET.

You said "since 1998", then when I pointed out how wrong you were, you moved the goalposts and claimed "in 1998". Shredding your own argument without me having to da a thing.

Wow, that's an impressively overwhelming argument.

I was simply trying to make it slightly easier for you to understand. No different than perimeterpost's earlier reply.

Don't get mad because you moved the goalposts. I simply pointed out how wrong you were, and you have to go and get a red-a$$, and insult my intelligence.

Well, to clarify, Temple wasn't kicked out until the early 2000's... They were still in the Big East when we played them in 1999.