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EMU Adds New Hoops Additions for this year and next year
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For those who want a view from 30,000 feet:

Murphy has added 4 new players for 2016/17. Three sat out last season. One played JUCO ball. So all players have collegiate experience.

For 2017/18, Murphy has added 3 players who have each played two seasons of D-I ball. Each will be a transfer redshirt. One more player is a true frosh who is also expected to redshirt.

There is a pattern there: The newcomers have usually one or two seasons of ball plus a redshirt year.

'True freshman' - don't know what one looks like...
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Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?
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(08-23-2016 02:34 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?

The new world order ... let's face it.

So many of these guys are sold/panhandled by their 'handlers' to the highest bidder to feed their own ego. It's not until these players have to look in the mirror (and on the court) to see where they really fit in.

Buffalo has started recruiting like this ... Kent has been doing this for years ... it's not the way you or I would like it, but the reality is even at the highest levels true "four-year" players are few and far between.

The only drawback to the redshirt-plus2 is that final year a MAC-type program can lose that same player as a senior transfer ... again

The new world order.
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(08-23-2016 02:59 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(08-23-2016 02:34 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?

The new world order ... let's face it.

So many of these guys are sold/panhandled by their 'handlers' out of high school/prep school to the highest bidder to feed their own ego. It's not until these players have to look in the mirror (and on the court) to see where they really fit in.

Buffalo has started recruiting like this ... Kent has been doing this for years ... it's not the way you or I would like it, but the reality is even at the highest levels true "four-year" players are few and far between.

The only drawback to the redshirt-plus2 is that final year a MAC-type program can lose that same player as a senior transfer ... again

The new world order.
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Just adding Ty Groce 6'6, 185 a true frosh who received 12 Div I offers as a senior and graduated in June 2016. Signed with Northeastern but was released from scholarship.
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(08-23-2016 02:34 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?

Could have some fun with this one if we have anyone with knowledge of formal logic.

If a true freshman is T, then a false freshman is ~T (not true freshman).

If someone is not a false freshman ~(~T) then he is a true freshman (T).
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(09-01-2016 03:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-23-2016 02:34 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?

Could have some fun with this one if we have anyone with knowledge of formal logic.

If a true freshman is T, then a false freshman is ~T (not true freshman).

If someone is not a false freshman ~(~T) then he is a true freshman (T).

I'm guessing he is immediately eligible ... but not completely sure. Which is it???
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(09-01-2016 06:02 AM)cleveland Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 03:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-23-2016 02:34 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?

Could have some fun with this one if we have anyone with knowledge of formal logic.

If a true freshman is T, then a false freshman is ~T (not true freshman).

If someone is not a false freshman ~(~T) then he is a true freshman (T).

I'm guessing he is immediately eligible ... but not completely sure. Which is it???

We're thinking he will sit out this year.
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(09-01-2016 09:05 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 06:02 AM)cleveland Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 03:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-23-2016 02:34 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Even more to the point, what does a false freshman look like?

Could have some fun with this one if we have anyone with knowledge of formal logic.

If a true freshman is T, then a false freshman is ~T (not true freshman).

If someone is not a false freshman ~(~T) then he is a true freshman (T).

I'm guessing he is immediately eligible ... but not completely sure. Which is it???

We're thinking he will sit out this year.

Agree. Believe he will sitout. Thought I heard a possible reason.
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I'm thinking he'll sit a year if for no other reason than EMU does not need him this year. The team is loaded at his position. The only question would be is it a redshirt or transfer year.

Besides, NIU has the best freshman in the MAC so what's the point?

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(09-01-2016 11:01 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  I'm thinking he'll sit a year if for no other reason than EMU does not need him this year. The team is loaded at his position. The only question would be is it a redshirt or transfer year.

Besides, NIU has the best freshman in the MAC so what's the point?

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**Yawn** I only opened this tread cuz I thought they maybe removing some of the empty seats and adding two actual hoops. If you can only play zone, why not?
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(09-02-2016 11:07 PM)NickleCity Wrote:  **Yawn** I only opened this tread cuz I thought they maybe removing some of the empty seats and adding two actual hoops. If you can only play zone, why not?

Maybe you shouldn't have opened this tread then.
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(09-02-2016 11:07 PM)NickleCity Wrote:  **Yawn** I only opened this tread cuz I thought they maybe removing some of the empty seats and adding two actual hoops. If you can only play zone, why not?

Thanks for giving a showcase to tell others why emu should be top tier in men's hoops the next few years.
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