Boise State people keep forgetting. They do get better tv ratings and fanbase than Colorado State.

There will be more B12 additions after Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas leave.

(07-20-2016 10:35 AM)Artifice Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 10:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  At most 6 more G5 will get a magic tix. 4 to B12, and 2 to Pac

That's likely 4 to Big 12, 2 leave Big 12 for PAC and then 2 more spots open up.

I don't see the last 2 though, simply because the Big 12 would be back at 12... Grabbing 4 now seems like a protective move for when OU and Texas leave.

And there will be a few more shifts so grabbing the "best four" out there now gives the BXII an advantage once that shifting occurs. They will be more secure and wrapped up the better candidates.

(07-20-2016 10:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  At most 6 more G5 will get a magic tix. 4 to B12, and 2 to Pac

Are you off your "B12 expansion is dead" kick now? Thank goodness.

(07-20-2016 10:52 AM)uccheese Wrote:  I don't think so. There really is no motivation for a split. They already make all the rules, take all the money. Might as well let G5 pretend to matter just for the sake of getting P5 teams more wins and keep a few extra people interested in college football. I would say last train out for 5-7 years and then things change again.

Yes, there is. They want to take over basketball and all that money, too.

(07-20-2016 11:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Boise State people keep forgetting. They do get better tv ratings and fanbase than Colorado State.

People don't forget anything. It is just that, unlike you, people are smart enough to realize that college presidents are not going to add a school that is academically as far below the worst current P5 schools as those schools are below Harvard and Yale.

(07-20-2016 09:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The number 1 school out of the G5 that have not been taken yet is Boise State. They have the best winning record since 2000. Every other G5 schools had 6 or more loses in that time span.

Number one football program number 120-125 out of 128 FBS schools academically .
Two MWC football titles since joining with no other conference titles.
Despite their tremendous football success they don't average a sell out.
What happens when they have a string of losing seasons ?
If football is all that matters they have poor recruiting grounds and the Big 12 doesn't need another school like that.

If Ohio St is the B1G, I think they could screw Cincy in all this. One call to Gee could change their fortunes. If that doesn't work, they will do something to help demote the Big 12.

(07-20-2016 11:15 AM)CyclonePower Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 10:39 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 10:23 AM)Artifice Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 09:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Aside from academics and being close to Denver, What is everybody seeing in CSU? Tiny fanbase, their athletics haven't been very good in comparison to others and Colorado isn't much of a recruiting base.

FWIW, my wife went to CSU and I'd be thrilled if they got invited. I'm just not seeing it.

Yeah, I'm aware. They've asked my wife for $$$. Still not seeing it. That's only a 30K stadium and their fanbase is relatively small.

I could see that changing. I think of they have a ton of potential in fact the most out of the all the prospects. Their state is growing fast, their school is growing fast, and their football is on the rise.

College FB on the Front Range is an after thought. The I25 corridor is a professional sports town. CU were able to get some attention when they were competing for national titles. They aren't any longer. In fact, I would guess the most popular college teams in Colorado; in order are:

1. CU (sometimes)
2. Texas
3. Texas A&M
4. Nebraska
5. Every other college attended by transplants not from TX or NE
6. Air Force
7. CSU

CSU to the Big12, no way it happens. They are where they need to be.

(07-20-2016 06:04 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 11:15 AM)CyclonePower Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 10:39 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 10:23 AM)Artifice Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 09:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Aside from academics and being close to Denver, What is everybody seeing in CSU? Tiny fanbase, their athletics haven't been very good in comparison to others and Colorado isn't much of a recruiting base.

FWIW, my wife went to CSU and I'd be thrilled if they got invited. I'm just not seeing it.

Yeah, I'm aware. They've asked my wife for $$$. Still not seeing it. That's only a 30K stadium and their fanbase is relatively small.

I could see that changing. I think of they have a ton of potential in fact the most out of the all the prospects. Their state is growing fast, their school is growing fast, and their football is on the rise.

College FB on the Front Range is an after thought. The I25 corridor is a professional sports town. CU were able to get some attention when they were competing for national titles. They aren't any longer. In fact, I would guess the most popular college teams in Colorado; in order are:

1. CU (sometimes)
2. Texas
3. Texas A&M
4. Nebraska
5. Every other college attended by transplants not from TX or NE
6. Air Force
7. CSU

CSU to the Big12, no way it happens. They are where they need to be.

Thats funny, because thats what folks said about CFB in NJ/NYC. Yet here we are in the B1G.

Colorado State is not perfect BUT they're in a state with 5.4 million people more than Utah, New Mexico and Wyoming combined.

It's not a T-Shirt athletics situation in Colorado either with the Buffaloes not strong nor beloved like schools in other P5 states.

Land grants we all know are favored by the P5 regardless of how attractive that school actually is. That gives Colorado State an edge over urban schools, IMO.

Colorado State new stadium construction cam:

http://stadium.colostate.edu/constructioncam/

(07-20-2016 09:05 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Not forever, but if the B12 goes to 4 new teams then this is THE ticket out of G5. Good luck to those schools.

BYU - football only.

Cincinnati - offer probably already sent lol.

Memphis

Houston/UCONN/Colorado State and others.

Forgot who it was, maybe McMurphy, but they said the gap between the P5 and G5 is growing so it is the last shot. 7 or 8 years and the gap will be Yuuuge.

(07-20-2016 07:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 09:05 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Not forever, but if the B12 goes to 4 new teams then this is THE ticket out of G5. Good luck to those schools.

BYU - football only.

Cincinnati - offer probably already sent lol.

Memphis

Houston/UCONN/Colorado State and others.

Forgot who it was, maybe McMurphy, but they said the gap between the P5 and G5 is growing so it is the last shot. 7 or 8 years and the gap will be Yuuuge.

The gap has been growing since the NCAA vs. Oklahoma decision.

Before that it wasn't about conferences so much as programs like Nebraska hording players.

The gap is accelerating exponentially no doubt about that. Particularly this decade.

(07-20-2016 12:49 PM)krup Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 11:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Boise State people keep forgetting. They do get better tv ratings and fanbase than Colorado State.

People don't forget anything. It is just that, unlike you, people are smart enough to realize that college presidents are not going to add a school that is academically as far below the worst current P5 schools as those schools are below Harvard and Yale.

I pointed this out on Reddit a while back and got downvoted to hell. Boise State needs about half a billion more dollars in their endowment fund and half a billion more in yearly expenditures before they catch up to the worst P5 schools.

People are so out of touch in Idaho that they think gaining Carnegie R3 status means they caught up. WTF?

(07-20-2016 09:20 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 12:49 PM)krup Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 11:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Boise State people keep forgetting. They do get better tv ratings and fanbase than Colorado State.

People don't forget anything. It is just that, unlike you, people are smart enough to realize that college presidents are not going to add a school that is academically as far below the worst current P5 schools as those schools are below Harvard and Yale.

I pointed this out on Reddit a while back and got downvoted to hell. Boise State needs about half a billion more dollars in their endowment fund and half a billion more in yearly expenditures before they catch up to the worst P5 schools.

People are so out of touch in Idaho that they think gaining Carnegie R3 status means they caught up. WTF?

Boise State is going add more research academics, and a possible medical school in the future in Boise. That would mean more money coming in for the school for the research academics.

Don't get left behind.

(07-20-2016 09:10 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  I would think Houston would be in play for the PAC12 . And UConn in play for the ACC or Big10 down the road regardless of what happens in the Big12

They said that after 2011, and Louisville was invited. They said that in 2012, and.......nothing so far.