Board of Directors authorized Bowlsby to talk to schools that had inquired about entry into the Big 12. Will post links when available.

Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravis · 8m8 minutes ago

Biggest loser on Big 12 expansion? ESPN & Fox. Each network might have to spend an extra $50 million a year on schools worth $5 million.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...candidates

Quote:"It's a forward step, a positive step," said Oklahoma president and board chair David Boren, who has been the most outspoken proponent for Big 12 expansion. "Not yet a decision ... but it shows momentum on the board to consider [expansion] as a possibility."

Boren said expansion by both two and four schools will be on the table moving forward.

Numerous schools have been pitching the Big 12 behind the scenes for months, including American Athletic Conference members Cincinnati Connecticut, Memphis, Houston and Central Florida, along with BYU, Colorado State and others.

"We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again," Bowlsby said.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 7m7 minutes ago

Hearing from an industry source that expansion virtual assured in Big 12. Only question is two or four teams.



To me either the B12 is trying to secure the future or make FOX and ESPN pay more money out of spite for not working on a conference network.

Securing the homes for Oklahoma State and Texas Tech so Oklahoma and Texas can working on leaving and elivate political pressures. Tech, WVU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Iowa State, etc don't have a landing spot. Now with expansion they don't have to worry about that and they can leave without the pressure.

That would mean they leave together though.

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Bowlsby: Football-only members a possibly in expansion.

This could get interesting. Now western and religious schools are easy to simulate into the conference.

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Texas source on Big 12 expansion news: "Maybe we get a 'get out of conference free card' for going along."

The Big12 will only dilute themselves further in the immediate and near future.

(07-19-2016 08:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The Big12 will only dilute themselves further in the immediate and near future.

6 years to develop G5 schools into P5 schools.

(07-20-2016 12:56 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The Big12 will only dilute themselves further in the immediate and near future.

6 years to develop G5 schools into P5 schools.

It doesn't work that way. Just ask the Old Big East crowd who are now in the AAC.

Taking a look at Stewart Mandell's Twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/slmandel/with_replies

A few of the highlights from the last several hours:

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
Big 12 board of directors started day w/ presentation from Baylor, spent rest of day on "conference composition."

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
Wait ... hold the phone. David Boren says there is "continued interest in expansion."

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
Boren says the board has advised Bob Bowlsby to explore expansion candidates' interest.

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
Corrected: In answer to a question, Boren indicates announcement of ACC Network impacted their re-interest in expansion.

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
Boren: "The direction from the board to the commissioner was to re-contact schools that expressed interest in us."

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
This is really surreal to listen to. I swear Boren is saying the exact opposite of everything he said about $$$, expansion a month ago.

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
Bowlsby: "We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again."

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 18h18 hours ago
You know who's really going to be shocked by today's news: Big 12 ADs.

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 17h17 hours ago
There have been a lot of strange days in realignment over the last 7 years. This is near the top of the list.

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 52m52 minutes ago
How abrupt a 180 did the Big 12 presidents pull yesterday? Others within/connected to the league expected the exact opposite announcement.

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 50m50 minutes ago
It took 19 months for the Big 12 to agree to expand. What are the odds they'll agree on the same schools?


Also from Mandel on the topic...

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ind-071916

Another good article on the Big 12, this time from Pete Thamel.

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/...ob-bowlsby

Big 12 coaches favor BYU and Houston


Another interesting article on the topic.

I have to agree that expansion is only being agreed to so OU/KU/UT can bolt in a couple years.

There is simply no way they stay in a conference with schools like Central Florida or Memphis.

Twitterati member Flugaur thinks it will be BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, and UConn

The next few weeks will be wild.

To me this indicates that 2 schools will be leaving the conference. The only question is do they want to be a 10 or 12 team league after that happens.

(07-19-2016 06:10 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravis · 8m8 minutes ago

Biggest loser on Big 12 expansion? ESPN & Fox. Each network might have to spend an extra $50 million a year on schools worth $5 million.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...candidates

Quote:"It's a forward step, a positive step," said Oklahoma president and board chair David Boren, who has been the most outspoken proponent for Big 12 expansion. "Not yet a decision ... but it shows momentum on the board to consider [expansion] as a possibility."

Boren said expansion by both two and four schools will be on the table moving forward.

Numerous schools have been pitching the Big 12 behind the scenes for months, including American Athletic Conference members Cincinnati Connecticut, Memphis, Houston and Central Florida, along with BYU, Colorado State and others.

"We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again," Bowlsby said.

This is a gangsta move by the B12. And it is absolute proof of not only a sports media rights bubble but that it will pop in 2025. The ability to expand by up to 4 teams, not have do a GOR extension and increase revenue for the original members puts Bowlsby in the Iron Throne of Conference Commissioners IMO.

(07-21-2016 08:19 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:10 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravis · 8m8 minutes ago

Biggest loser on Big 12 expansion? ESPN & Fox. Each network might have to spend an extra $50 million a year on schools worth $5 million.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...candidates

Quote:"It's a forward step, a positive step," said Oklahoma president and board chair David Boren, who has been the most outspoken proponent for Big 12 expansion. "Not yet a decision ... but it shows momentum on the board to consider [expansion] as a possibility."

Boren said expansion by both two and four schools will be on the table moving forward.

Numerous schools have been pitching the Big 12 behind the scenes for months, including American Athletic Conference members Cincinnati Connecticut, Memphis, Houston and Central Florida, along with BYU, Colorado State and others.

"We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again," Bowlsby said.

This is a gangsta move by the B12. And it is absolute proof of not only a sports media rights bubble but that it will pop in 2025. The ability to expand by up to 4 teams, not have do a GOR extension and increase revenue for the original members puts Bowlsby in the Iron Throne of Conference Commissioners IMO.

I don't agree with H1's theory about where OU goes, but I do think he is going to be spot on in his claim that a big fight would be staged to give UT and OU the cover to dissolve the Big 12. I'll still be shocked if they actually take 2 G5 schools let alone 4. I think Houston will be one of several battle lines designed to create a big enough rancor to blow the conference up.

(07-21-2016 09:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 08:19 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:10 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravis · 8m8 minutes ago

Biggest loser on Big 12 expansion? ESPN & Fox. Each network might have to spend an extra $50 million a year on schools worth $5 million.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...candidates

Quote:"It's a forward step, a positive step," said Oklahoma president and board chair David Boren, who has been the most outspoken proponent for Big 12 expansion. "Not yet a decision ... but it shows momentum on the board to consider [expansion] as a possibility."

Boren said expansion by both two and four schools will be on the table moving forward.

Numerous schools have been pitching the Big 12 behind the scenes for months, including American Athletic Conference members Cincinnati Connecticut, Memphis, Houston and Central Florida, along with BYU, Colorado State and others.

"We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again," Bowlsby said.

This is a gangsta move by the B12. And it is absolute proof of not only a sports media rights bubble but that it will pop in 2025. The ability to expand by up to 4 teams, not have do a GOR extension and increase revenue for the original members puts Bowlsby in the Iron Throne of Conference Commissioners IMO.

I don't agree with H1's theory about where OU goes, but I do think he is going to be spot on in his claim that a big fight would be staged to give UT and OU the cover to dissolve the Big 12. I'll still be shocked if they actually take 2 G5 schools let alone 4. I think Houston will be one of several battle lines designed to create a big enough rancor to blow the conference up.

Several TX politicians including the Gov and Lt Gov endorsed and some even demanded today that Houston be added to the Big 12. UT President Fenves endorsed the idea as well. I think it's happening.

Unless we see OU publicly pick a fight and endorse everything that UT is against then I don't think we're going to see any game played.

From what I understand, the networks are obligated to pay pro rata for new additions. If the new additions take less money then the current 10 members could actually profit from this in the short term.

As for the grand plan here, I'm still not sure UT and OU are planning on leaving in a few years. I need to see what they do with the GOR. That and whether or not they get any legitimate offers for a network. I think it's possible that the networks want to see what an expanded Big 12 looks like before they seriously consider converting the LHN.

I'm still having trouble believing that UT and OU are simply creating a decent home for the little brothers. It makes sense on some level, yes, but if the powers leave then the little brothers will ultimately not be able to keep pace on their own. It's simply a matter of when not if.

To me, it seems a lot easier for everyone if UT and OU simply take a couple of little brothers with them if indeed they are concerned about the secondary schools. That's the only way to guarantee their future. I suppose it is possible, however, that no one wants the little brothers. Perhaps the other power leagues will accept only OU and UT at this point and perhaps not one without the other. If that is true then perhaps we're heading for something very bizarre.

(07-21-2016 08:19 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:10 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravis · 8m8 minutes ago

Biggest loser on Big 12 expansion? ESPN & Fox. Each network might have to spend an extra $50 million a year on schools worth $5 million.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...candidates

Quote:"It's a forward step, a positive step," said Oklahoma president and board chair David Boren, who has been the most outspoken proponent for Big 12 expansion. "Not yet a decision ... but it shows momentum on the board to consider [expansion] as a possibility."

Boren said expansion by both two and four schools will be on the table moving forward.

Numerous schools have been pitching the Big 12 behind the scenes for months, including American Athletic Conference members Cincinnati Connecticut, Memphis, Houston and Central Florida, along with BYU, Colorado State and others.

"We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again," Bowlsby said.

This is a gangsta move by the B12. And it is absolute proof of not only a sports media rights bubble but that it will pop in 2025. The ability to expand by up to 4 teams, not have do a GOR extension and increase revenue for the original members puts Bowlsby in the Iron Throne of Conference Commissioners IMO.

His pimp backhand is strong.

(07-21-2016 10:50 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 08:19 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:10 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravis · 8m8 minutes ago

Biggest loser on Big 12 expansion? ESPN & Fox. Each network might have to spend an extra $50 million a year on schools worth $5 million.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...candidates

Quote:"It's a forward step, a positive step," said Oklahoma president and board chair David Boren, who has been the most outspoken proponent for Big 12 expansion. "Not yet a decision ... but it shows momentum on the board to consider [expansion] as a possibility."

Boren said expansion by both two and four schools will be on the table moving forward.

Numerous schools have been pitching the Big 12 behind the scenes for months, including American Athletic Conference members Cincinnati Connecticut, Memphis, Houston and Central Florida, along with BYU, Colorado State and others.

"We've been contacted by a number of institutions, and I would imagine after this news breaks we'll be contacted again," Bowlsby said.

This is a gangsta move by the B12. And it is absolute proof of not only a sports media rights bubble but that it will pop in 2025. The ability to expand by up to 4 teams, not have do a GOR extension and increase revenue for the original members puts Bowlsby in the Iron Throne of Conference Commissioners IMO.

I don't agree with H1's theory about where OU goes, but I do think he is going to be spot on in his claim that a big fight would be staged to give UT and OU the cover to dissolve the Big 12. I'll still be shocked if they actually take 2 G5 schools let alone 4. I think Houston will be one of several battle lines designed to create a big enough rancor to blow the conference up.

Several TX politicians including the Gov and Lt Gov endorsed and some even demanded today that Houston be added to the Big 12. UT President Fenves endorsed the idea as well. I think it's happening.

Unless we see OU publicly pick a fight and endorse everything that UT is against then I don't think we're going to see any game played.

From what I understand, the networks are obligated to pay pro rata for new additions. If the new additions take less money then the current 10 members could actually profit from this in the short term.

As for the grand plan here, I'm still not sure UT and OU are planning on leaving in a few years. I need to see what they do with the GOR. That and whether or not they get any legitimate offers for a network. I think it's possible that the networks want to see what an expanded Big 12 looks like before they seriously consider converting the LHN.

I'm still having trouble believing that UT and OU are simply creating a decent home for the little brothers. It makes sense on some level, yes, but if the powers leave then the little brothers will ultimately not be able to keep pace on their own. It's simply a matter of when not if.

To me, it seems a lot easier for everyone if UT and OU simply take a couple of little brothers with them if indeed they are concerned about the secondary schools. That's the only way to guarantee their future. I suppose it is possible, however, that no one wants the little brothers. Perhaps the other power leagues will accept only OU and UT at this point and perhaps not one without the other. If that is true then perhaps we're heading for something very bizarre.

Look JR, all we know is the B12 is trying to maximize profits for their members and increase the odds of landing a playoff spot.

Everything else is pure speculation because, as Dennis Dodds pointed out, not even the Presidents or Chancellors know what's gonna happen.