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(07-20-2016 10:22 AM)NiuFootballfan Wrote:  
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I'm not sure what you're implying..........
Nothing haha I'm just excited the ball seems like it might get rolling

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Anyone got the sirius XM interview? I unfortunately do not have access at the time. Family vacation where the Mrs. is driving and no XM radio

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Nothing? Nobody?

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@SiriusXMCollege's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SiriusXMCollege/stat...74848?s=01

Phones have been ringing off the hook, eh Sean? You sly dog, being all coy

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I caught most, possibly all of it. Have to start by saying Chris Childers does a lot to boost our exposure and Rick is a stand up guy. Nobody else on that station recognizes our existence for the most part. As usual STF brought the passion. More time was probably spent talking about the current racial tensions than expansion talk and technically that’s why he was scheduled to be the guest from what Chris said. Timing was perfect to touch on expansion of course and is where the discussion started. STF never said he wanted the B12 to pick us directly, but made it clear we’ve done our best to prepare for this moment as have a number of G5 programs and the B12 is gonna do what they want. Given STF is 1 of 12 AA ADs and how active STF is in diversity program type stuff, most of STFs time was spent talking about how important it is for Sports and leaders to exemplify how we can move forward as one nation with a common goal. Apparently his brother is a cop outside of Boston so Dallas hit him pretty hard.
Of course we didn’t learn anything new. But, what he did do is give us a half hour of free and positive publicity. From that point the expansion was and will continue to be about possible candidates and his interview legitimately put NIU into the conversation with the true front runners. STF is impressive and therefore had to put NIU in a very positive light for the entire nation. Not sure I should be, but I was I was surprised to hear only 12 out of what 128? FBS schools have an AD of color. That’s less than 10%.

Bottom line, NIU has no real chance but just being in the discussion helps position us for the AAC discussions to follow. Oh, and Chris talked about the tweet from athletics and all the upgrades we’ve made to prepare for moving up in class. Dude is a great ambassador!
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(07-20-2016 11:21 AM)Big Redd Wrote:  I caught most, possibly all of it. Have to start by saying Chris Childers does a lot to boost our exposure and Rick is a stand up guy. Nobody else on that station recognizes our existence for the most part. As usual STF brought the passion. More time was probably spent talking about the current racial tensions than expansion talk and technically that’s why he was scheduled to be the guest from what Chris said. Timing was perfect to touch on expansion of course and is where the discussion started. STF never said he wanted the B12 to pick us directly, but made it clear we’ve done our best to prepare for this moment as have a number of G5 programs and the B12 is gonna do what they want. Given STF is 1 of 12 AA ADs and how active STF is in diversity program type stuff, most of STFs time was spent talking about how important it is for Sports and leaders to exemplify how we can move forward as one nation with a common goal. Apparently his brother is a cop outside of Boston so Dallas hit him pretty hard.
Of course we didn’t learn anything new. But, what he did do is give us a half hour of free and positive publicity. From that point the expansion was and will continue to be about possible candidates and his interview legitimately put NIU into the conversation with the true front runners. STF is impressive and therefore had to put NIU in a very positive light for the entire nation. Not sure I should be, but I was I was surprised to hear only 12 out of what 128? FBS schools have an AD of color. That’s less than 10%.

Bottom line, NIU has no real chance but just being in the discussion helps position us for the AAC discussions to follow. Oh, and Chris talked about the tweet from athletics and all the upgrades we’ve made to prepare for moving up in class. Dude is a great ambassador!
That sounds like a fantastic interview. Surely a B12 candidate that falls short (NIU, no matter how long then chances at the B12 are) jumps to the front of the pack for an AAC backfill? I think so!

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(07-20-2016 11:38 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-20-2016 11:21 AM)Big Redd Wrote:  I caught most, possibly all of it. Have to start by saying Chris Childers does a lot to boost our exposure and Rick is a stand up guy. Nobody else on that station recognizes our existence for the most part. As usual STF brought the passion. More time was probably spent talking about the current racial tensions than expansion talk and technically that’s why he was scheduled to be the guest from what Chris said. Timing was perfect to touch on expansion of course and is where the discussion started. STF never said he wanted the B12 to pick us directly, but made it clear we’ve done our best to prepare for this moment as have a number of G5 programs and the B12 is gonna do what they want. Given STF is 1 of 12 AA ADs and how active STF is in diversity program type stuff, most of STFs time was spent talking about how important it is for Sports and leaders to exemplify how we can move forward as one nation with a common goal. Apparently his brother is a cop outside of Boston so Dallas hit him pretty hard.
Of course we didn’t learn anything new. But, what he did do is give us a half hour of free and positive publicity. From that point the expansion was and will continue to be about possible candidates and his interview legitimately put NIU into the conversation with the true front runners. STF is impressive and therefore had to put NIU in a very positive light for the entire nation. Not sure I should be, but I was I was surprised to hear only 12 out of what 128? FBS schools have an AD of color. That’s less than 10%.

Bottom line, NIU has no real chance but just being in the discussion helps position us for the AAC discussions to follow. Oh, and Chris talked about the tweet from athletics and all the upgrades we’ve made to prepare for moving up in class. Dude is a great ambassador!
That sounds like a fantastic interview. Surely a B12 candidate that falls short (NIU, no matter how long then chances at the B12 are) jumps to the front of the pack for an AAC backfill? I think so!

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STF best trait; he is constantly pro active.
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(07-20-2016 12:08 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  STF best trait; he is constantly pro active.


Yes! If you're not moving forward you're moving backwards. That's the leadership we need here and that type of thinking. Staying status quo in the MAC does nothing... When half of the conference is in the ESPN bottom 10 year after year how does do anything positive for NIU?

Look what Temple has done since leaving

AAC needs to happen if the P5 is ever realistic one day. We need to capitalize on the last 15 years of success before it's too late and take that next step.


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I think the bigger concern is our struggle against non MAC teams. Should be fun to go 4-8 in the AAC. Its ok though, Im sure Rod can guide us to new heights..... 03-puke
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(07-20-2016 12:28 PM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  I think the bigger concern is our struggle against non MAC teams. Should be fun to go 4-8 in the AAC. Its ok though, Im sure Rod can guide us to new heights..... 03-puke


We might have a few tough years at the beginning but the AAC will help our recruiting bigtime and give us a much bigger footprint and visibility in the south. Long term how is it not a much better option than the MAC (The Ohio/Michigan Conf)???


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(07-20-2016 12:28 PM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  I think the bigger concern is our struggle against non MAC teams. Should be fun to go 4-8 in the AAC. Its ok though, Im sure Rod can guide us to new heights..... 03-puke

NIU is 10-8 against regular season non-Mac teams since 2010. Not sure why many people Think we are so bad OOC. The bowl losses maybe? But there's only 1 team we SHOULD have beaten in those games.
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(07-20-2016 12:28 PM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  I think the bigger concern is our struggle against non MAC teams. Should be fun to go 4-8 in the AAC. Its ok though, Im sure Rod can guide us to new heights..... 03-puke

We've beaten more B1G schools in the last 6 years then we did in the previous 100. FWIW our all-time record against AAC schools is 7-8.
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Is it inaccurate to say that the AAC is generally > than the MAC? No. Do i think that the expectations of what the AAC can offer us is overblown? yes. In the end, only us 100 'die hard' fans will differentiate memphis from kent state. the rest of NE Illinois will still not give 2 poops.
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Just for kicks I was reading the CUSA board, and they are trying to decide which four of their programs are going to move to the AAC when its members are raided by the Big 12. Will be interesting to see who the AAC considers to backfill their openings. It will be competitive.
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Some interesting AAC TV numbers in this article:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...12-invite/
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(07-20-2016 12:47 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  Is it inaccurate to say that the AAC is generally > than the MAC? No. Do i think that the expectations of what the AAC can offer us is overblown? yes. In the end, only us 100 'die hard' fans will differentiate memphis from kent state. the rest of NE Illinois will still not give 2 poops.

I completely disagree with this statement.
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(07-20-2016 12:49 PM)niu79 Wrote:  Just for kicks I was reading the CUSA board, and they are trying to decide which four of their programs are going to move to the AAC when its members are raided by the Big 12. Will be interesting to see who the AAC considers to backfill their openings. It will be competitive.

It is an interesting though and think you are looking at So Miss, UAB, La Tech, Rice and maybe Marshall as in the conversation. The rest of CUSA is either two years removed from the Sun Belt or a start-up and I cannot see the AAC moving on any of those programs. I think the AAC probably will find more value in staying at 10 at that point.

If the AAC needs two teams then maybe NIU and So Miss would work. If they need three teams then maybe something like NIU, So Miss and Toledo / UMass would be the better play.
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(07-20-2016 06:48 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  
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(07-19-2016 07:45 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  That is leagues better than the crap we have now with EMU and Kent St and such...

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Exactly! The Sunbelt is the conference that would be a step down, and that is only based on on field performance. I'm pretty certain they have better attendance. You could argue CUSA is lateral, but I think most metrics would prove CUSA to be slightly better.
CUSA sucks now... that per team payout makes EMU and the sunbelt teams laugh

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Don't get me wrong, no matter who defects logic says we go for the AAC! No one climbs the ladder without taking some risks and applying for a bigger job. This idea of sitting on our hands in the MAC because it's comfortable and they've been good to us is not how business works, and we know college ball has become a business.

Just some questions to ponder

"Since CUSA sucks now"

At one time wasn't CUSA essentially what the AAC currently is?

At one time didn't CUSA have a better TV contract?

At one time didn't CUSA have better bowls?

Is playing Temple in the AAC any sexier than playing Temple in the MAC?

How many really care if we play East Carolina instead of Eastern Michigan? Will it bring in tens of thousands of more fans?

Just my opinion, and let me be clear that I am for conference improvement and don't mind taking some risks, but you better have a damn good idea of what the AAC or other conferences looks like in 5 years before you make a move so that you don't end up in a conference that sucks and has higher travel costs .

Now if the AAC or some other conference go beyond just replacement of the (best) teams that jumped to their better conference and really grab the best teams from other conferences to form a new more prestigious conference, this might be a great opportunity.

This is a very accurate and realistic assessment of NIU regarding AAC.
I also think if Toledo jumps ship, we will be forced to make a move and vice versa. SF will not want to stay in the MAC with what's left minus UT.
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(07-20-2016 01:03 PM)HuskieBowWow Wrote:  
(07-20-2016 06:48 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  
(07-19-2016 08:33 PM)Big Redd Wrote:  
(07-19-2016 08:28 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-19-2016 08:28 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  Exactly! The Sunbelt is the conference that would be a step down, and that is only based on on field performance. I'm pretty certain they have better attendance. You could argue CUSA is lateral, but I think most metrics would prove CUSA to be slightly better.
CUSA sucks now... that per team payout makes EMU and the sunbelt teams laugh

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Don't get me wrong, no matter who defects logic says we go for the AAC! No one climbs the ladder without taking some risks and applying for a bigger job. This idea of sitting on our hands in the MAC because it's comfortable and they've been good to us is not how business works, and we know college ball has become a business.

Just some questions to ponder

"Since CUSA sucks now"

At one time wasn't CUSA essentially what the AAC currently is?

At one time didn't CUSA have a better TV contract?

At one time didn't CUSA have better bowls?

Is playing Temple in the AAC any sexier than playing Temple in the MAC?

How many really care if we play East Carolina instead of Eastern Michigan? Will it bring in tens of thousands of more fans?

Just my opinion, and let me be clear that I am for conference improvement and don't mind taking some risks, but you better have a damn good idea of what the AAC or other conferences looks like in 5 years before you make a move so that you don't end up in a conference that sucks and has higher travel costs .

Now if the AAC or some other conference go beyond just replacement of the (best) teams that jumped to their better conference and really grab the best teams from other conferences to form a new more prestigious conference, this might be a great opportunity.

This is a very accurate and realistic assessment of NIU regarding AAC.
I also think if Toledo jumps ship, we will be forced to make a move and vice versa. SF will not want to stay in the MAC with what's left minus UT.

To this, I'd say a sucky AAC is better than a good MAC.
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