(07-19-2016 12:56 PM)klake87 Wrote:  the running back position is our strongest position. DL or QB is our weakest.

OL this year is very suspect.

(07-25-2016 02:29 PM)South Side Hacker Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 12:56 PM)klake87 Wrote:  the running back position is our strongest position. DL or QB is our weakest.

OL this year is very suspect.

Scharping, Howard, Ruka and Myers is pretty good. Center position is up for grabs. Scharping might be the best Offensive lineman we have ever had.

(07-25-2016 02:46 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 02:29 PM)South Side Hacker Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 12:56 PM)klake87 Wrote:  the running back position is our strongest position. DL or QB is our weakest.

OL this year is very suspect.

Scharping, Howard, Ruka and Myers is pretty good. Center position is up for grabs. Scharping might be the best Offensive lineman we have ever had.

He has the potential to be up there for sure. He's our best pro prospect as of now. Yes above Golladay. Todd Peat, Ryan Diem and Doug Free are the top 3 as of now IMO


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(07-26-2016 01:30 PM)klake87 Wrote:  http://247sports.com/Article/Who-are-som...6-38012758

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Tre Harbison! He's in good company on that list as well. Can't wait to see him move chains for the Huskies.

The offensive line loses two top players Aidan Conlon and Andrew Ness and the defensive front 7 have has no real top players,losing LB Boomer Mays will really hurt.
Last year injuries killed us at QB so we lost our last 3 games,the Boise State game was painful to watch.
We are loaded at RB and receivers even with the loss of Chad Beebe.

(07-26-2016 07:29 PM)trojan chariot Wrote:  The offensive line loses two top players Aidan Conlon and Andrew Ness and the defensive front 7 have has no real top players,losing LB Boomer Mays will really hurt.
Last year injuries killed us at QB so we lost our last 3 games,the Boise State game was painful to watch.
We are loaded at RB and receivers even with the loss of Chad Beebe.

I agree. I think the line will be fine given our offensive style. As per usual, the big question is the QB (Also, i'm fine moving on from Hare and facing whatever the consequences may be, good or bad).

I don't think the loss of Ness and Conlon is that big of a loss. We will plug and play with four guys who were starters last year. Only adding one totally new starter (I guess it is still TBD) and if his snaps are better than Ness' we are ahead of the game. Would love to see Myers have a huge year and get drafted.
Will be interested to see how the younger dline guys stack up. I believe Marcus Kelly was Wisconsin defensive player of yearhis senior year and we have several other sophs and jr's who need to step up but we do have a core of 3 or 4 guys from the interior returning. Key will be Corey Thomas' return from knee surgery. In the defensive backfield we should have fewer PI penalties called with Logan's graduation.

(07-26-2016 11:18 PM)NIUSAE Wrote:  I don't think the loss of Ness and Conlon is that big of a loss. We will plug and play with four guys who were starters last year. Only adding one totally new starter (I guess it is still TBD) and if his snaps are better than Ness' we are ahead of the game. Would love to see Myers have a huge year and get drafted.
Will be interested to see how the younger dline guys stack up. I believe Marcus Kelly was Wisconsin defensive player of yearhis senior year and we have several other sophs and jr's who need to step up but we do have a core of 3 or 4 guys from the interior returning. Key will be Corey Thomas' return from knee surgery. In the defensive backfield we should have fewer PI penalties called with Logan's graduation.

Our Dline terrifys me. Regardless of qb play I think we'll put points on the board. Something tells me we'll have a little more aggressive playbook. Receiver, rb, ol, all great experience. Secondary-possibly best in the mac. Hope players like Lurry and Scharping can continue. Remember Jon Brost took several steps back after he was a fresh all American. With Folliard, Cheren, Jones, Johnson (gonna be a good one imo), Payton and Pugh our lb core should be as good as it's been the past decade. Boomer was a plug but don't forget Payton started several games as a true freshman. Similar stats to what he did last year. But that DL...we have a couple run stoppers with little proven depth. Last year our pass rush productivity by Dline alone was no good, even with Ford. Every year we've had a staple rusher: Ken West, Larry, Progar, Baxter, Windsor, Meehan and Ford (we were a little spoiled). The players we're relying on for a rush are all unproven and very undersized. Fingers crossed Meeks works out. We'll be nickel and dimed all over the field and O will never see the field otherwise. Particularly with most the QB's we'll be facing this year...

It seems like there's been a recent downward trend in the D-line, at least in terms of pass rush. I don't have numbers for QB hurries but here are the sacks from the NIUHUSKIES.COM site, and opposing teams numbers for comparison. I think we've had a better secondary lately than usual, but it isn't always clear since we seem to get less pressure on the QB lately.

Year-Sacks-Sack Ydg (Opponent Sacks-Sack Ydg)

2015 27-176 (32-193)
2014 32-227 (14-82)
2013 34-203 (11-65)
2012 40-262 (17-81)
2011 28-229 (12-90)
2010 30-185 (13-82)
2009 34-270 (15-124)

(07-27-2016 02:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  It seems like there's been a recent downward trend in the D-line, at least in terms of pass rush. I don't have numbers for QB hurries but here are the sacks from the NIUHUSKIES.COM site, and opposing teams numbers for comparison. I think we've had a better secondary lately than usual, but it isn't always clear since we seem to get less pressure on the QB lately.

Year-Sacks-Sack Ydg (Opponent Sacks-Sack Ydg)

2015 27-176 (32-193)
2014 32-227 (14-82)
2013 34-203 (11-65)
2012 40-262 (17-81)
2011 28-229 (12-90)
2010 30-185 (13-82)
2009 34-270 (15-124)

Hard to say from those numbers without knowing the number of opponents pass plays.

(07-27-2016 04:08 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 02:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  It seems like there's been a recent downward trend in the D-line, at least in terms of pass rush. I don't have numbers for QB hurries but here are the sacks from the NIUHUSKIES.COM site, and opposing teams numbers for comparison. I think we've had a better secondary lately than usual, but it isn't always clear since we seem to get less pressure on the QB lately.

Year-Sacks-Sack Ydg (Opponent Sacks-Sack Ydg)

2015 27-176 (32-193)
2014 32-227 (14-82)
2013 34-203 (11-65)
2012 40-262 (17-81)
2011 28-229 (12-90)
2010 30-185 (13-82)
2009 34-270 (15-124)

Hard to say from those numbers without knowing the number of opponents pass plays.

I would guess the number of pass plays are pretty similar from year to year, but I didn't check that number. Considering that we never seem to get off the field on a 3-and-out, we have more chances for a sack and the numbers are probably overstated if anything.

EDIT: Opponent pass attempts per year:

2015: 518
2014: 456
2013: 516
2012: 509
2011: 478
2010: 448
2009: 374

Not sure what the deal was with 2009 unless the MAC simply went pass-happy over the last several years.

Good thing we have Barksdale.

(07-27-2016 04:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 04:08 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 02:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  It seems like there's been a recent downward trend in the D-line, at least in terms of pass rush. I don't have numbers for QB hurries but here are the sacks from the NIUHUSKIES.COM site, and opposing teams numbers for comparison. I think we've had a better secondary lately than usual, but it isn't always clear since we seem to get less pressure on the QB lately.

Year-Sacks-Sack Ydg (Opponent Sacks-Sack Ydg)

2015 27-176 (32-193)
2014 32-227 (14-82)
2013 34-203 (11-65)
2012 40-262 (17-81)
2011 28-229 (12-90)
2010 30-185 (13-82)
2009 34-270 (15-124)

Hard to say from those numbers without knowing the number of opponents pass plays.

I would guess the number of pass plays are pretty similar from year to year, but I didn't check that number. Considering that we never seem to get off the field on a 3-and-out, we have more chances for a sack and the numbers are probably overstated if anything.

EDIT: Opponent pass attempts per year:

2015: 518
2014: 456
2013: 516
2012: 509
2011: 478
2010: 448
2009: 374

Not sure what the deal was with 2009 unless the MAC simply went pass-happy over the last several years.

Two fewer games in 2009.

(07-27-2016 04:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 04:08 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 02:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  It seems like there's been a recent downward trend in the D-line, at least in terms of pass rush. I don't have numbers for QB hurries but here are the sacks from the NIUHUSKIES.COM site, and opposing teams numbers for comparison. I think we've had a better secondary lately than usual, but it isn't always clear since we seem to get less pressure on the QB lately.

Year-Sacks-Sack Ydg (Opponent Sacks-Sack Ydg)

2015 27-176 (32-193)
2014 32-227 (14-82)
2013 34-203 (11-65)
2012 40-262 (17-81)
2011 28-229 (12-90)
2010 30-185 (13-82)
2009 34-270 (15-124)

Hard to say from those numbers without knowing the number of opponents pass plays.

I would guess the number of pass plays are pretty similar from year to year, but I didn't check that number. Considering that we never seem to get off the field on a 3-and-out, we have more chances for a sack and the numbers are probably overstated if anything.

EDIT: Opponent pass attempts per year:

2015: 518
2014: 456
2013: 516
2012: 509
2011: 478
2010: 448
2009: 374

Not sure what the deal was with 2009 unless the MAC simply went pass-happy over the last several years.

One less game in 2009.

(07-28-2016 04:40 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 04:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 04:08 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 02:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  It seems like there's been a recent downward trend in the D-line, at least in terms of pass rush. I don't have numbers for QB hurries but here are the sacks from the NIUHUSKIES.COM site, and opposing teams numbers for comparison. I think we've had a better secondary lately than usual, but it isn't always clear since we seem to get less pressure on the QB lately.

Year-Sacks-Sack Ydg (Opponent Sacks-Sack Ydg)

2015 27-176 (32-193)
2014 32-227 (14-82)
2013 34-203 (11-65)
2012 40-262 (17-81)
2011 28-229 (12-90)
2010 30-185 (13-82)
2009 34-270 (15-124)

Hard to say from those numbers without knowing the number of opponents pass plays.

I would guess the number of pass plays are pretty similar from year to year, but I didn't check that number. Considering that we never seem to get off the field on a 3-and-out, we have more chances for a sack and the numbers are probably overstated if anything.

EDIT: Opponent pass attempts per year:

2015: 518
2014: 456
2013: 516
2012: 509
2011: 478
2010: 448
2009: 374

Not sure what the deal was with 2009 unless the MAC simply went pass-happy over the last several years.

One less game in 2009.

Waaay to many factors to break this one down. Conference QB play, offensive system etc. In the 2000s more teams were based on a pro style offense. We didn't adopt more of a spread until Kill. The Novak era was literally zone blocking and play action with 7 on the line. Seems like offenses (especially schools so might have less skilled lineman) have adopted more "gimmicky" styles which include more passing. Conferences like the big ten have always had horses so you'll never see teams like wisconsin or iowa toss more than 35% of the time.

There's a picture on twitter with Folliard, Lee and Schapering at a hospital with a patient recovering from injuries and Max looks huge. Hope he's got the nasty attitude too.