(07-18-2016 11:43 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: I don't think you want to go down this path Max... And this is far away from plagiarism... Someone needs to go back to English class.
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While I think this as a "controversy" is relatively stupid. If this was a college essay said student would be in serious ****. I don't see how anyone can deny this as plagiarism.
Didn't watch it, didn't care to watch it...
Im with John on this. !
Whoever wrote the speech... shame on them.
But if this is the "controversy"... YAWNERS
There are bigger issues about the organization of the campaign. Lots of finger pointing going on.
(07-19-2016 12:54 AM)shere khan Wrote: Many people consider hillary being a candidate as ridiculous as michelle obama or melania trump running fpr president
If dems think melanias speech is gonna mean a tinkers damn then they are grasping at straws.
(07-19-2016 12:28 AM)Kronke Wrote: LOL at Cenk Power calling someone out on plagiarism. He blatantly ripped off the Young Cucks take on Hildawg's college plan about a week ago, and then bolted his own thread and never returned whenever he got called out on it.
(07-10-2016 11:31 AM)Max Power Wrote: She can do some things via executive order. At least in areas that she will have to work with Republicans, her starting bargaining position is stronger, so that a compromise will look something like her original plan, instead of just crumbs.
Cenk Power's plagiarism begins at 8:00..
Sweet, **** my children won't qualify for but will pay anyway.
(07-19-2016 12:54 AM)shere khan Wrote: Many people consider hillary being a candidate as ridiculous as michelle obama or melania trump running fpr president
If dems think melanias speech is gonna mean a tinkers damn then they are grasping at straws.
well it's the top headline on CNN right now.
Oh sure the Clinton News Network ! No surprise there
(07-19-2016 01:39 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: You won't win a campaign on just Hillary's emails and Benghazi and the vast majority of you are counting on that. Someone needs to wake up all right. You won't this Trump guy holding the nuclear football? #clowncarisgoingtorunoutofgassoon
Again, this is what you want to believe. The polls dont reflect it. The gop is winning moderates. You are gonna have to do better than this to get such an unlikable character as hillary elected. Bill runs away with this election. Hillary not so much.
What polls are you talking about? Clinton has a big advantage with college educated whites, women, hispanics, African Americans. Trump has a big advantage with white males and whites without college. Can you point to something that indicates moderates moving in the trump direction? Which moderates, Democrats, independents? Maybe I'm missing something.
Most women I know hate Hillary. Only known Liberal women around here support Her. Go to any White suburban bar or restaurant district and You find little support for Hillary.
(07-19-2016 07:23 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: Most women I know hate Hillary. Only known Liberal women around here support Her. Go to any White suburban bar or restaurant district and You find little support for Hillary.
That would be terrific news for Republicans if their nominee wasn't Donald Trump.
(07-19-2016 06:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: I see the liberals on the board were up all night working overtime...
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Did you go to English class last night to find out what plagiarism is.
This will blow over, but the optics is really bad. You are bashing the President and what he stands for, and then your wife comes out and basically quotes Ms. Obama word for word for a section of your speech? That is not good.. You cannot change facts on this one. She screwed up.
Outside of Melania claiming how hard it was to grow up as a black woman in Chicago, I thought her speech was fine. All speeches blend in together a bit. My bigger complaint was that I would have preferred more personal insight on her life, and what attracted her to Donald Trump (other than his money and his huge hands).
(07-19-2016 07:30 AM)usmbacker Wrote: Where was the outrage from the libs when their Chosen One stole Deval Patrick's words twice...
Was this at the DNC Convention as the headline speech? Look I am not saying no one has done this before and it will happen again. BUT ITS THE RNC Convention and she was the main speaker for the evening, with the world watching. And your going to quote the First Lady that you are trying to replace and have bashed for years.
That is the problem. Take off the rose colored glasses and just accept that this was a huge mistake.. Its not hard to say.. yea she did it and move on.
(07-19-2016 07:30 AM)Greenroom Wrote: Did you go to English class last night to find out what plagiarism is.
This will blow over, but the optics is really bad. You are bashing the President and what he stands for, and then your wife comes out and basically quotes Ms. Obama word for word for a section of your speech? That is not good.. You cannot change facts on this one. She screwed up.
I feel terrible for her. Very uncomfortable situation and she performed quite well under the circumstances only to learn her speechwriter and Trump/RNC officials screwed her over.
She was likely relieved and feeling really good afterward only to have it all come crashing down.
I can't recall a bigger failure when it comes to protecting nonpolitical family members. Embarrassing.
(07-19-2016 06:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: I see the liberals on the board were up all night working overtime...
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Did you go to English class last night to find out what plagiarism is.
This will blow over, but the optics is really bad. You are bashing the President and what he stands for, and then your wife comes out and basically quotes Ms. Obama word for word for a section of your speech? That is not good.. You cannot change facts on this one. She screwed up.
Obama has never stood for "work for what you want" or "keep your promise" or even "treat people with respect."
(07-19-2016 06:11 AM)Ole Blue Wrote: If Bill or Chelsea did anything remotely like this all you conservatives would be up in arms about it. What kind of partisan crap is it that you're seriously arguing that something literally plagiarized isn't a big deal?! Sad state of our politics today.
If any of this is actually true, then there's a speech writer that needs to be fired. That's pretty much it.
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So did she say that she's proud of America for the first time in her life? In 8 years of being the First Lady those are the only words I ever remember coming out of Michelle Obama's mouth. That's how little this is going to matter.
(07-19-2016 07:52 AM)dfarr Wrote: So did she say that she's proud of America for the first time in her life? In 8 years of being the First Lady those are the only words I ever remember coming out of Michelle Obama's mouth. That's how little this is going to matter.
That's exactly what I thought of when Melania was talking about how much she loved America.
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Melania Trump plagiarized Michelle Obama's 2012 speech
That's exactly what I thought of when Melania was talking about how much she loved America.