(07-18-2016 08:47 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:24 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  This should solidify the ACC schools for years to come. Now the ACC can expand for revenue generation purposes. This now makes Houston, Temple, UCONN, and other large market area schools an attractive school for the ACC.

Good job by the ACC to finally get this. It has taken years and years to get it.

Wut?

ACC didn't even have a GOR until after UofL replaced Maryland. SEC didn't have one until Missouri and Texas A&M were added. B1G didn't have one until Nebraska was added. Pac12 didn't have one until Utah and Colorado. The GoR always equals a conference network eventually.


At least so far.......

GOR isn't relevant to what I am posting. With a CABLE channel the ACC can expand into new markets to expand the ACC Channel subs. That generates them more money. To make more money they would need to expand. The ACC isn't in the state of Texas. Not in the state of Ohio. Etc, etc.

UCONN is now a very attractive school for the ACC.

UConn would also make an attractive addition to the Big Ten East. It would give the Big Ten 4 of the 4 flagship schools in the northeast and would improve the overall quality of competition in all sports. Adding UConn may also generate a level of interest in college football in the northeast that hasn't been seen since the days the Ivy League schools dominated college football.

Btw, Congrats ACC!

(07-18-2016 09:42 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:16 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:13 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:47 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Wut?

ACC didn't even have a GOR until after UofL replaced Maryland. SEC didn't have one until Missouri and Texas A&M were added. B1G didn't have one until Nebraska was added. Pac12 didn't have one until Utah and Colorado. The GoR always equals a conference network eventually.


At least so far.......

GOR isn't relevant to what I am posting. With a CABLE channel the ACC can expand into new markets to expand the ACC Channel subs. That generates them more money. To make more money they would need to expand. The ACC isn't in the state of Texas. Not in the state of Ohio. Etc, etc.

UCONN is now a very attractive school for the ACC.

Not really the northeast is pretty much covered with just Syracuse and BC. Part of CT is covered by NY cable systems and the rest by the New England cable systems. So they hold the same value as they did before which is little to none.

Expanding to new larger areas would be better.

Yep. I think the real issue is that ESPN already defines the primary ACC media footprint as Mass, NH, VT, Conn, RI, NY, PA, Indiana, Kentucky, VA, DC, MD, Delaware, NC, SC, Ga, and Florida. Whenever a basketball game or tournament is being blacked out, it's in that footprint and it crosses state lines due to the media reach of Boston, NYC, Philly, Pitt, and DC.

With that footprint, Alabama, Tennessee, West Virginia, Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio are partially hit through Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.

If payment is based on so much in the primary area, and say .50 in the secondary area, and .10 in the tertiary area, then any expansion that is network based seems to be most profitable by leaping over the secondary area and landing in Louisiana and or Texas.

The Philadelphia tv market (#4 in the country) is not part of any ACC media footprint. While Pitt is in pennsylvania, they are a completely different tv market and have no relevance there.

The ACC's PA media affiliates:


DMA Station Network affiliation Notes/References/Webpage(s)
Erie WFXP Fox
Harrisburg-Lancaster WXBU The CW
Philadelphia WPVI-TV ABC ABC O&O Station; also serves Atlantic City, New Jersey by default
Pittsburgh WTAE ABC [19]
Scranton/Wilkes Barre WQMY MyNetworkTV
State College-Johnstown-Altoona WHVL-LP MyNetworkTV

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

(07-18-2016 09:58 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:42 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:16 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:13 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:47 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  GOR isn't relevant to what I am posting. With a CABLE channel the ACC can expand into new markets to expand the ACC Channel subs. That generates them more money. To make more money they would need to expand. The ACC isn't in the state of Texas. Not in the state of Ohio. Etc, etc.

UCONN is now a very attractive school for the ACC.

Not really the northeast is pretty much covered with just Syracuse and BC. Part of CT is covered by NY cable systems and the rest by the New England cable systems. So they hold the same value as they did before which is little to none.

Expanding to new larger areas would be better.

Yep. I think the real issue is that ESPN already defines the primary ACC media footprint as Mass, NH, VT, Conn, RI, NY, PA, Indiana, Kentucky, VA, DC, MD, Delaware, NC, SC, Ga, and Florida. Whenever a basketball game or tournament is being blacked out, it's in that footprint and it crosses state lines due to the media reach of Boston, NYC, Philly, Pitt, and DC.

With that footprint, Alabama, Tennessee, West Virginia, Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio are partially hit through Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.

If payment is based on so much in the primary area, and say .50 in the secondary area, and .10 in the tertiary area, then any expansion that is network based seems to be most profitable by leaping over the secondary area and landing in Louisiana and or Texas.

The Philadelphia tv market (#4 in the country) is not part of any ACC media footprint. While Pitt is in pennsylvania, they are a completely different tv market and have no relevance there.

The ACC's PA media affiliates:


DMA Station Network affiliation Notes/References/Webpage(s)
Erie WFXP Fox
Harrisburg-Lancaster WXBU The CW
Philadelphia WPVI-TV ABC ABC O&O Station; also serves Atlantic City, New Jersey by default
Pittsburgh WTAE ABC [19]
Scranton/Wilkes Barre WQMY MyNetworkTV
State College-Johnstown-Altoona WHVL-LP MyNetworkTV

That is the Disney owned ABC channel in Philadelphia but just because the ACC lists that channel does not mean there is a great level of ACC exposure. The main cable distributor is Comcast in Philadelphia with Verizon as the main competitor. I would not assume that an over the air ACC channel is going to just be added by Comcast in the Philly market. I can only hope the Comcast execs on the temple BOT feel the same way.

The addition of the ACC Network will increase the league's overall value, putting it in line with the top Power 5 conferences.

"When the ACC Network revenues are included, the ACC will be very competitive with the upper tier [Big Ten and SEC] of the Power 5 leagues," a source said.

LINK
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...cc-network

Good Link to Understand the new ESPN/ACC Network Deal 2036!!

http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2016/0...tmlthrough

(07-18-2016 09:13 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:47 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:24 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  This should solidify the ACC schools for years to come. Now the ACC can expand for revenue generation purposes. This now makes Houston, Temple, UCONN, and other large market area schools an attractive school for the ACC.

Good job by the ACC to finally get this. It has taken years and years to get it.

Wut?

ACC didn't even have a GOR until after UofL replaced Maryland. SEC didn't have one until Missouri and Texas A&M were added. B1G didn't have one until Nebraska was added. Pac12 didn't have one until Utah and Colorado. The GoR always equals a conference network eventually.


At least so far.......

GOR isn't relevant to what I am posting. With a CABLE channel the ACC can expand into new markets to expand the ACC Channel subs. That generates them more money. To make more money they would need to expand. The ACC isn't in the state of Texas. Not in the state of Ohio. Etc, etc.

UCONN is now a very attractive school for the ACC.

Not really the northeast is pretty much covered with just Syracuse and BC. Part of CT is covered by NY cable systems and the rest by the New England cable systems. So they hold the same value as they did before which is little to none.

Expanding to new larger areas would be better.

Syracuse isn't even close to the NYC TV market though. The University of Maryland is closer to NYC than Cuse. There is a big gap on the I-95 corridor of the atlantic coast. The Atlantic Coast Conference isn't represented on the most populated part of the Atlantic coast. A Temple/UConn 15/16 expansion would fill that hole.

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

ESPN should kill any idea of adding another conference Network. It will lead people dropping cable. The low income household is already being squeezed out. Then, ESPN and these so called greedy conferences are losing money.

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

Your helmets can't shine anymore than they already do.

(07-18-2016 11:18 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

Your helmets can't shine anymore than they already do.

And you're not gonna make anymore money than you are now. Enjoy being the lowest paid power conference for the next two decades! We'll have re-upped 2-3 times by then.

(07-18-2016 11:27 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 11:18 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

Your helmets can't shine anymore than they already do.

And you're not gonna make anymore money than you are now. Enjoy being the lowest paid power conference for the next two decades! We'll have re-upped 2-3 times by then.

Thank God for money Rutgersguy! Right?
If it weren't for money, teams would be judged on performance and play on the court and field. Say it again with me...."Thank God for money"!

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

There was also nothing in the announcement that said the ACC extended their current rights deal. Just that there will be a network and the GoR was extended until 2036. It's entirely possible that the ACC's rights will be back up for bid in 2027 just like they already were.

(07-19-2016 12:06 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

There was also nothing in the announcement that said the ACC extended their current rights deal. Just that there will be a network and the GoR was extended until 2036. It's entirely possible that the ACC's rights will be back up for bid in 2027 just like they already were.

um, no

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...cc-network

The Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN have agreed to a 20-year deal and rights extension through the 2035-36 academic year, sources said.

We will find out the details Thursday...but for Clemson and FSU to sign off a huge increase more than likely was involved...time will tell...

(07-18-2016 11:27 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 11:18 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those wondering, the TV deal was extended thru 2035-36 along with the grant of rights...

The thing money wise right now- the ACC is fine. BUT when the
Big Ten- 2023-24
Big 12- 2024-25
Pac 12- 2023-24
and even SEC 2023-24 with CBS

conferences tv deals expire- if those explode, the ACC is right back where they started. And frankly with those- they could do 6 year deals, and get re-upped 2x before the ACC is up again(when they would be up for a 3rd time). That's the issue that the ACC faces. Yeah it's great now.

Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

Your helmets can't shine anymore than they already do.

And you're not gonna make anymore money than you are now. Enjoy being the lowest paid power conference for the next two decades! We'll have re-upped 2-3 times by then.

Seriously could you be anymore delusional? You count your money while our programs count wins. Some people like to root for a team that actually wins. Money is not everything. Get real. Your team has to win too. They are both equally as important.

(07-18-2016 08:19 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 08:02 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 5m5 minutes ago
ACC Network will launch by August 2019 & ACC extends conference grant of rights thru 2036, sources told @ESPN

That's big news. Makes it much tougher to poach ACC schools ...

The Big XII schools just became easier targets.

The ACC, Big 10, SEC and Pac 12 all have at least 65M in their footprint. All have (or will have) a network.

The Big 12 has about 35M in its footprint. It was just told "No network for you."

All is well.

The ACC will stay together and got its network and a better deal.

The Big 12 and every CR blogger all bet wrong on the ACC's weakness.

Jim Delany had no "master plan" to grab ND, North Carolina, Virginia, etc...

Buckaineer, the Dude and others are in fetal positions.

ND stays independent at least through 2036 with its structural ACC deal extended.

(07-19-2016 03:22 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 11:27 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 11:18 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:45 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:09 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Based on your numbers and news......there are multiple ACC look-ins built into the contract. They coincidently align with the other conferences contracts. Prove me wrong. Better yet....link your proof.

Look ins don't mean you automatically get more money. In fact there is no obligation at all to give you more money. Keep polishing that turd though.

Your helmets can't shine anymore than they already do.

And you're not gonna make anymore money than you are now. Enjoy being the lowest paid power conference for the next two decades! We'll have re-upped 2-3 times by then.

Seriously could you be anymore delusional? You count your money while our programs count wins. Some people like to root for a team that actually wins. Money is not everything. Get real. Your team has to win too. They are both equally as important.

I believe that Rutgers and Syracuse had the same amount of wins last year.

Big 10 also went 105-75 as a conference while acc went 98-82

9 million message board posts and Tweets about the ACC dying and being raided by the other conferences....all completely, totally, wildly wrong.


Six years worth of speculation...done. Gone. Over.