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C.J. Gettys
(07-26-2016 03:24 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I would not count on getting to much from a freshman big in the CAA. Elmore is pretty good but if he was ready for big minutes at this level he would be in the ACC somewhere.
I also don't get why my man hates the Plumlee kid so much. Good kid and very good athlete. He did flat out take it to the UNCW bigs on both ends.

Blizzard seemed like he was ready for big minutes at this level as a freshman. Golds berry seemed ready. Neither of them were in the ACC anywhere.

I'm not comparing Elmore to those two greats pre-career, I'm just saying your ridiculous thought process, once again, is as flawed as a peach in an apple pie.

Not even a good effort this time Mullet. And hoops has always prefaced his anti-Plumlee sentiment by stating the fact he wasn't nearly as good as his brothers and essentially roads the coat tails of their success to a mediocre career at Duke, at best.
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Elmore is a good prospect but big guys typically take longer to develop at this level-just the way it is. The point is that most bigs that are ready to play land in a P5 conference and not a CAA. This has zero to do with Blizz or Goldsberry and that is just a poor comparison at best.You do get some guards that are ready to go from the jump every year in the CAA but bigs just don't happen as much. I know you want him to come in as a flat out stud but it rarely happens. I f Elmore is ever as good as Plumlee was as a 5th year senior he will be a great player for UNCW. Don't forget my man-I have been around basketball a long time and have seen a ton of really great bigs but damn few as freshmen.
Don't hate on Duke players just because they beat your team.
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(07-26-2016 10:47 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Don't hate on Duke players just because they beat your team.

I hate on Plumlee because the dude was a freak, and really not that good for 90% of his career. He couldn't hold his brother's jocks
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In this area Mullet is correct. Bigs do take a while to develop. But Cacok might be an exception. Kid's already a beast. I've been pumping him up since he arrived, and now he's very likely going to be the key to our entire season as a Sophomore.
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(07-26-2016 10:47 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Elmore is a good prospect but big guys typically take longer to develop at this level-just the way it is. The point is that most bigs that are ready to play land in a P5 conference and not a CAA. This has zero to do with Blizz or Goldsberry and that is just a poor comparison at best.You do get some guards that are ready to go from the jump every year in the CAA but bigs just don't happen as much. I know you want him to come in as a flat out stud but it rarely happens. I f Elmore is ever as good as Plumlee was as a 5th year senior he will be a great player for UNCW. Don't forget my man-I have been around basketball a long time and have seen a ton of really great bigs but damn few as freshmen.
Don't hate on Duke players just because they beat your team.
I think the key to Elmore getting minutes is his ability to defend. That will be the deciding factor. I think we all agree he is a strong offensive threat, but Keatts won't play guys unless their D is up to par.
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(07-27-2016 10:12 AM)surfsalot Wrote:  I think the key to Elmore getting minutes is his ability to defend. That will be the deciding factor. I think we all agree he is a strong offensive threat, but Keatts won't play guys unless their D is up to par.

It'll be a nice problem to have if we can avoid forcing Elmore onto the court before he's ready. With a starting lineup looking something like Talley/Richmond, Ingram, Bryce/Mosely, Flemmings, and Ogbodo/Cacok/Bryan, that should be the case.

Though unless Grundy makes big strides, which is certainly more than possible, there isn't an obvious backup "4" other than Elmore right now.
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Elmore will be able to provide defense at the 4 equal to or better than Flemmings...who started in that spot. He'll be able to rebound equal to or better than Flemmings...who started in that spot. He'll provide offense equal to or better than any other player on the roster who plays the 4...except Flemmings. Honestly, there really is no player more suited for that position in a Keatts system than Elmore on this roster. If this allows him to slide Flemmings to his more natural 3 spot, the wear and tear on Flemmings should be far less, and his ability produce even better.

The real problem is we have underside players and little offense at the 5 spot right now, so the 4 spot has to produce. We cannot compete overtime with undersized 5's and and undersized 4 on the court.

I see the following to start:

Richmond, Ingram, Flemmings, Elmore, Bryan

5- Bryan/Cacok/Ogbodo
4- Elmore/Grundy/Cacock/Flemmings
3 - Flemmings/Ingram
2. Ingram/Mosley
PG- Richmond/Fornes/Talley

Elmore is not a typical big. Although he is 6'8", he comes in with a polished outside game and deadly mid-range jumper. He is decent in the post, can run the floor, and can take it to the hoop or snare an alley oop and finish. He was overlooked in a small eastern NC school. If he had played in Charlotte or the triangle, he'd have gotten far more attention.
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(07-27-2016 04:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Elmore will be able to provide defense at the 4 equal to or better than Flemmings...who started in that spot. He'll be able to rebound equal to or better than Flemmings...who started in that spot. He'll provide offense equal to or better than any other player on the roster who plays the 4...except Flemmings. Honestly, there really is no player more suited for that position in a Keatts system than Elmore on this roster. If this allows him to slide Flemmings to his more natural 3 spot, the wear and tear on Flemmings should be far less, and his ability produce even better.

The real problem is we have underside players and little offense at the 5 spot right now, so the 4 spot has to produce. We cannot compete overtime with undersized 5's and and undersized 4 on the court.

I see the following to start:

Richmond, Ingram, Flemmings, Elmore, Bryan

5- Bryan/Cacok/Ogbodo
4- Elmore/Grundy/Cacock/Flemmings
3 - Flemmings/Ingram
2. Ingram/Mosley
PG- Richmond/Fornes/Talley

Elmore is not a typical big. Although he is 6'8", he comes in with a polished outside game and deadly mid-range jumper. He is decent in the post, can run the floor, and can take it to the hoop or snare an alley oop and finish. He was overlooked in a small eastern NC school. If he had played in Charlotte or the triangle, he'd have gotten far more attention.

I like Elmore a lot and saw play in high school but he played at a small school and I never saw him play vs a guy his size. The guys I saw him play were 6-2 to 6-4 and not very athletic. We know that will not be the case in the CAA and a lot of these schools play a small lineup which may bring him out on the floor to defend,not sure if he can guard off the dribble or not but he will have to stay on the floor at all I think. Under the basket he should be ok. I have no doubt he can score in the CAA and should see some time but I would back off putting any pressure on him to produce right away.
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Flemmings was the one of the best defenders on UNCW's team last year. To me Flemmings is more of a 3 playing 4 but is so good that he can play the 4. Nobody can guard him. Getting back...I think of Elmore being a 5 man in this system without question. At least for next year for sure because Keatts will have Flemmings at the 4 and I would think that Cacok would definitely be the other top 4 option. Cacok is going to get minutes, you know that. This is why Elmore, who is big and strong, likely plays the 5 not the 4.
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Playing Elmore at the 5 is a waste of talent. Kid can shoot deep 3's, mid-range, and can run the floor. He has been training with the Blizz all summer and it shows with his shot consistency . But in the end, Keatts knows what he is doing.
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