We all know about the NBC and Notre Dame deal. But why hasn't NBC made a deal similar to CBS's SEC deal to show the number one game each week of a conference. This game can be played at 3:30 eastern when Notre Dame isn't playing at that time or that home that week and can be at 7:30 or Noon for Notre Dame 3:30 home games. This type of coverage would be great for a conference to go to head to head with the SEC. The best conference would probably be the Big Ten with their historic great programs and great game day atmosphere like Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan St, Wisconsin, Iow, and Nebraska to go up against the SEC and their games of Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, etc.

Another option would be to go with the ACC game of the week and then they really could most of the Notre Dame away games plus get the best conference games of Clemson and Florida State.

(07-17-2016 08:46 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We all know about the NBC and Notre Dame deal. But why hasn't NBC made a deal similar to CBS's SEC deal to show the number one game each week of a conference. This game can be played at 3:30 eastern when Notre Dame isn't playing at that time or that home that week and can be at 7:30 or Noon for Notre Dame 3:30 home games. This type of coverage would be great for a conference to go to head to head with the SEC. The best conference would probably be the Big Ten with their historic great programs and great game day atmosphere like Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan St, Wisconsin, Iow, and Nebraska to go up against the SEC and their games of Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, etc.

Another option would be to go with the ACC game of the week and then they really could most of the Notre Dame away games plus get the best conference games of Clemson and Florida State.

I think the reason is ESPN.

Notre Dame football, PGA Tour, NASCAR and Premier League that's why.

PGA and NASCAR not really.
PGA has a few things on NBC- but in 2 of the weekends that they have tournaments, they are airing ND games.... Really only the Rider Cup weekend is blocked totally off...

NASCAR in the fall is still mostly on Sunday. Only 2 Saturday races and 1 of those is on NBCSN.

And NHL....

(07-17-2016 09:48 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  And NHL....

in the fall NHL isn't much. even winter time- that's more on Sunday's than it is Saturday.

(07-17-2016 09:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 09:48 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  And NHL....

in the fall NHL isn't much. even winter time- that's more on Sunday's than it is Saturday.

NBC and NBCSN do a lot of NHL games for national/prime time audiences. Now your local team will have its games on your local FOXSN network. I want to say the local FOXSN gets your local NBA and NHL teams. NFL might depend on whether your team is AFC or NFC. I am not sure how the FOXSN would play into MLB games with local teams.

I hear a cold front is coming soon to Hell.

(07-17-2016 10:11 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I hear a cold front is coming soon to Hell.

+3 Spot on!

NBC has really hitched its wagon to a few of the non mainstream but growing sports like Soccer and Hockey. To become a true player in the College Football market, they'd have to give those up, and judging by how much they paid for the rights to the Premier League for the next 3 years, that's not happening.

I think if ESPN fails to create a network for the ACC, I can see the ACC jumping ship to NBC when the ESPN contract is up.... With NBC's relationship with ND, I can see the ACC doing business with them even if ESPN provides a channel...Much like how the BIG split between FOX and ESPN... If ND stays INDY it is only a matter of time before NBC gets some ACC business!

The thing is, the ACC is going to be in trouble money wise until their contract is up. And if they get more money from ESPN until then, you can believe the contract would get extended. And it's still 10 years until the deal is up now.

The reason: NBC (at a national level) doesn't spend really big money for sports outside of the Olympics and NFL (and even their NFL deal is a bargain compared to what CBS, Fox and ESPN are paying for their packages). Remember that cable money drives the spending as opposed to over-the-air networks in college sports: ABC and Fox are only getting Big Ten games in the future because ESPN and FS1 are funding those transactions. The CBS-SEC package is the last vestige of a bygone era - that deal almost certainly wouldn't be done today without cable money funding. If NBCSN isn't willing to spend big-time money on college sports, then NBC isn't going to get anything beyond the Notre Dame package that it has now. The notion that their other properties like the Premier League, NHL and golf are in the way of showing more college football is hogwash since all of the networks actually have just as much or more sports inventory to deal with. NBCSN simply doesn't want to spend big money on sports: plain and simple.

NBC likes to brand itself as the "exclusive" station for specific entities in the US.

They're branding says NBC Sports is "your home" for:

Olympics, Notre Dame, the NHL, Premier League, the Chase for the Sprint Cup, Sunday Night Football, etc.

It's not that they'll ONLY make those deals necessarily, but they tend to lean more towards deals that get them that. That's largely going to be a reason you see them not jump into NCAA conference media rights deals. They may eventually do it, but yeah.

(07-17-2016 08:46 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We all know about the NBC and Notre Dame deal. But why hasn't NBC made a deal similar to CBS's SEC deal to show the number one game each week of a conference. .

NBC (or Comcast can't remember which one) made the big offer to the ACC back in 2007 or so, that forced ESPN to up the ante to retain their product. In 2011 or so, NBC (or Comcast, can't remember which one) made the high bid for the PAC 12, which forced ESPN and Fox to create their unholy union (since duplicated) to fend off NBC (or Comcast, can't remember).

It is not that NBC/Comcast hasn't tried: they have made the highest offer (at one point) for the ACC, the PAC 12, and (FWIW) the AAC. ESPN (and Fox) just were able to rebound and beat their offer, and the entities stayed with the known commodity.

(07-18-2016 10:49 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  The reason: NBC (at a national level) doesn't spend really big money for sports outside of the Olympics and NFL (and even their NFL deal is a bargain compared to what CBS, Fox and ESPN are paying for their packages).

That's it. Apart from the Olympics, Comcast/NBC is a "value investor". Their Notre Dame deal is also a bargain when you compare the price per game to ESPN's price per football game for any of its P5 contracts.

I think it is worth pointing out that even if NBC had to pay more to keep the NFL, they the probably would. Losing the NFL the first time wrecked their network to the point they still have not recovered from. If it cost them as much as ESPN to keep SNF, I think they would. They simply cannot let it go anymore. However, I think it will remain the lowest price, because the Sunday Afternoon packages offer more games to show, and ESPN is forced to pay a premium to have it on cable, so their package should remain the lowest cost, even if it has the highest weekly ratings.

right now here's the tv deals....
ESPN 1.9 billion
Fox 1.1 billion
CBS 1.0 billion
NBC 0.95 billion

If you add in the Thursday games....
CBS 1.23 billion
NBC 1.18 billion

even if you take out the TNF games- NBC pays far more per game than anyone but ESPN.

(07-18-2016 11:43 AM)stever20 Wrote:  right now here's the tv deals....
ESPN 1.9 billion
Fox 1.1 billion
CBS 1.0 billion
NBC 0.95 billion

If you add in the Thursday games....
CBS 1.23 billion
NBC 1.18 billion

even if you take out the TNF games- NBC pays far more per game than anyone but ESPN.

Yeah but what's the price of pretty much being the game of the week, every week?

(07-18-2016 11:43 AM)stever20 Wrote:  right now here's the tv deals....
ESPN 1.9 billion
Fox 1.1 billion
CBS 1.0 billion
NBC 0.95 billion

If you add in the Thursday games....
CBS 1.23 billion
NBC 1.18 billion

even if you take out the TNF games- NBC pays far more per game than anyone but ESPN.

NBC is getting far more value per NFL game than any other channel. They get the best time slot every Sunday and on Thanksgiving, and can charge a lot more for each 30-second ad on SNF than Fox or CBS can for afternoon games. They get choice games on SNF, whereas about half of the MNF games are hot garbage. And, NBC gets to steal attractive late-season games away from CBS and Fox.

If NBC could cherry-pick many of the best CFB games and get an exclusive in the best time slot for CFB, maybe they'd dive in. But their recent history shows that NBC won't have much interest in buying non-exclusive product similar to what ESPN/ABC or Fox has at a similarly high price.