I thought this would be a fun off season thread! List any school that you think could easily be in FBS if they wanted to be.

1) Georgetown: The Hoyas could play their football in a newly renovated 40,000 capacity RFK Stadium. With their historic tradition in basketball and great academics, they would be a great fit in the ACC. Georgetown would get the ACC back into the Maryland/DC area. Provide a bridge between the Southern schools and the schools in the Northeast. Georgetown would also be a welcomed by former members of the Big East of Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville, especially for basketball and the rivalries. The one wild car would be Notre Dame who would like the addition of another Catholic East Coast Private School however the fact that it would mean no Navy could be an issue for Notre Dame. The Southern schools might not like the move up a non-scholarship FCS team to the ACC and might cause Florida State and Clemson bark at the idea. If the ACC was a no go the American would easily take Georgetown for their basketball and name brand.

2) Wichita State: Wichita State brings a great fan base and recent success in basketball has made them a household name. Wichita is located in small state with already two FBS programs but with their location in southern Kansas and being in a larger city helps. Wichita State's basketball, baseball and former football history (still have their stadium) would probably make them a take for the American or MWC, and easy take for the MAC, SBC, or C-USA. W

3) Ivy League: The entire 8 member Ivy League (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale) if decided to could be a dominate power in FBS. The Ivy League still has the most Division 1 National Champions of all time even though they have been playing at a lower level for 30 years no conference has caught up. At one point the Ivy League was the place to be for college athletes. When Yale visited Georgia in the 1930's it was the biggest home game in program history for UGA. With all the money and tradition the Ivy League has they could shake up college football if they desired.

4) Marquette: The Golden Eagles have great history in basketball and a football start up would probably cause them to take teams to take a look. Located in a large city and in a state with only one FBS program could make it easy for Marquette to gain fan support and get recruits. With no current stadium that could be an issue but Miller Park is always a valuable option. Marquette could be a football only school in the MAC to get the MAC into Wisconsin and Milwaukee and gain a name brand school.

5) James Madison: Large student base public school with great fan support in large populated state with only three FBS programs. James Madison has been looked at by FBS conference and even turned down some conferences. If they really wanted they could be an add for the Sun Belt to get the conference into Virginia/DC Area.

Who else do you think could be a FBS school if they desired?

Liberty - they have the desire, cash, facilities, and fan support

We have absolutely zero incentive to restart football. We would start baseball before ever restarting football. We are a basketball-first school, period. Anything that takes funds and/or resources away from that will not be considered.

I would rank Villanova, Georgetown, and Butler as Big East schools more likely to start FBS football aspirations, and I don't think any Big East schools have any inclination to start FBS football anytime soon. I would throw Dayton in that class as well.

(07-16-2016 02:21 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  We have absolutely zero incentive to restart football. We would start baseball before ever restarting football. We are a basketball-first school, period. Anything that takes funds and/or resources away from that will not be considered.

I would rank Villanova, Georgetown, and Butler as Big East schools more likely to start FBS football aspirations, and I don't think any Big East schools have any inclination to start FBS football anytime soon. I would throw Dayton in that class as well.

that's why it said if they desired. It was kind of a compliment to your school.

Ndsu

Idaho

(07-16-2016 04:48 PM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  Ndsu

The Montanas, NDSU and Wichita St would each have to add a number of women's sports for Title IX balancing.

(07-16-2016 01:39 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  I thought this would be a fun off season thread! List any school that you think could easily be in FBS if they wanted to be.

1) Georgetown: The Hoyas could play their football in a newly renovated 40,000 capacity RFK Stadium. With their historic tradition in basketball and great academics, they would be a great fit in the ACC. Georgetown would get the ACC back into the Maryland/DC area. Provide a bridge between the Southern schools and the schools in the Northeast. Georgetown would also be a welcomed by former members of the Big East of Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville, especially for basketball and the rivalries. The one wild car would be Notre Dame who would like the addition of another Catholic East Coast Private School however the fact that it would mean no Navy could be an issue for Notre Dame. The Southern schools might not like the move up a non-scholarship FCS team to the ACC and might cause Florida State and Clemson bark at the idea. If the ACC was a no go the American would easily take Georgetown for their basketball and name brand.

2) Wichita State: Wichita State brings a great fan base and recent success in basketball has made them a household name. Wichita is located in small state with already two FBS programs but with their location in southern Kansas and being in a larger city helps. Wichita State's basketball, baseball and former football history (still have their stadium) would probably make them a take for the American or MWC, and easy take for the MAC, SBC, or C-USA. W

3) Ivy League: The entire 8 member Ivy League (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale) if decided to could be a dominate power in FBS. The Ivy League still has the most Division 1 National Champions of all time even though they have been playing at a lower level for 30 years no conference has caught up. At one point the Ivy League was the place to be for college athletes. When Yale visited Georgia in the 1930's it was the biggest home game in program history for UGA. With all the money and tradition the Ivy League has they could shake up college football if they desired.

4) Marquette: The Golden Eagles have great history in basketball and a football start up would probably cause them to take teams to take a look. Located in a large city and in a state with only one FBS program could make it easy for Marquette to gain fan support and get recruits. With no current stadium that could be an issue but Miller Park is always a valuable option. Marquette could be a football only school in the MAC to get the MAC into Wisconsin and Milwaukee and gain a name brand school.

5) James Madison: Large student base public school with great fan support in large populated state with only three FBS programs. James Madison has been looked at by FBS conference and even turned down some conferences. If they really wanted they could be an add for the Sun Belt to get the conference into Virginia/DC Area.

Who else do you think could be a FBS school if they desired?

Maybe a more interesting question is what schools would leave the NCAA with the power conference schools if that were the only way to have access to the new division's version of the NCAAT?

Let's say they would have to pay annual dues of $2 million to fund the new organization, and playing football were a requirement. Would any schools add the sport to avoid being relegated to what would be a second rate NCAA? Or would the P5 let schools in if they didn't play football?

(07-16-2016 07:32 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe a more interesting question is what schools would leave the NCAA with the power conference schools if that were the only way to have access to the new division's version of the NCAAT?

There's another thread for that.

Quote: Let's say they would have to pay annual dues of $2 million to fund the new organization, and playing football were a requirement. Would any schools add the sport to avoid being relegated to what would be a second rate NCAA? Or would the P5 let schools in if they didn't play football?

What exactly do we mean "playing football"? 80 scholarship FBS? Or is Villanova's FCS program good enough? What about Georgetown, who last I heard didn't offer scholarships for their PAtriot League program? Or Dayton and Butler, who play in the non-scholarship Pioneer Football League?

UC Davis. Their athletic budget is already larger than some FBS schools, their alumni base in California is huge, there's no competing NFL or FBS team in the 2.4 million population Sacramento metro area, and their stadium is designed to be expanded to seat 30,000.

They seem to have zero interest in moving up however.

(07-16-2016 01:39 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  I thought this would be a fun off season thread! List any school that you think could easily be in FBS if they wanted to be.

1) Georgetown: The Hoyas could play their football in a newly renovated 40,000 capacity RFK Stadium. With their historic tradition in basketball and great academics, they would be a great fit in the ACC. Georgetown would get the ACC back into the Maryland/DC area. Provide a bridge between the Southern schools and the schools in the Northeast. Georgetown would also be a welcomed by former members of the Big East of Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville, especially for basketball and the rivalries. The one wild car would be Notre Dame who would like the addition of another Catholic East Coast Private School however the fact that it would mean no Navy could be an issue for Notre Dame. The Southern schools might not like the move up a non-scholarship FCS team to the ACC and might cause Florida State and Clemson bark at the idea. If the ACC was a no go the American would easily take Georgetown for their basketball and name brand.

2) Wichita State: Wichita State brings a great fan base and recent success in basketball has made them a household name. Wichita is located in small state with already two FBS programs but with their location in southern Kansas and being in a larger city helps. Wichita State's basketball, baseball and former football history (still have their stadium) would probably make them a take for the American or MWC, and easy take for the MAC, SBC, or C-USA. W

3) Ivy League: The entire 8 member Ivy League (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale) if decided to could be a dominate power in FBS. The Ivy League still has the most Division 1 National Champions of all time even though they have been playing at a lower level for 30 years no conference has caught up. At one point the Ivy League was the place to be for college athletes. When Yale visited Georgia in the 1930's it was the biggest home game in program history for UGA. With all the money and tradition the Ivy League has they could shake up college football if they desired.

4) Marquette: The Golden Eagles have great history in basketball and a football start up would probably cause them to take teams to take a look. Located in a large city and in a state with only one FBS program could make it easy for Marquette to gain fan support and get recruits. With no current stadium that could be an issue but Miller Park is always a valuable option. Marquette could be a football only school in the MAC to get the MAC into Wisconsin and Milwaukee and gain a name brand school.

5) James Madison: Large student base public school with great fan support in large populated state with only three FBS programs. James Madison has been looked at by FBS conference and even turned down some conferences. If they really wanted they could be an add for the Sun Belt to get the conference into Virginia/DC Area.

Who else do you think could be a FBS school if they desired?

The question is: What does an institution like Georgetown University gain by starting an FBS program? It's already one of the most prestigious academic institutions in the entire country. Same with the ivy league schools. Whether they start an FBS program or not Georgetown is always going to be Georgetown, Harvard is always going to be Harvard and so on. We started football to help shed the the commuter school label. Allowing students and alumni to connect and to keep students on campus. Also to increase applications to the university especially from out of state students.

University of Chicago.

Long history in Big Ten. STRONG academic reputation. Could play all their games at Soldier Field or US Celluar. Rich alumni.

If only FBS were achievable by just desiring it. Unfortunately, for a school to move up, they need an invitation from an existing FBS conference. I understand that keeps schools with no business being in FBS from moving up to get better paydays from the P5 schools but it hurts the schools who want to put the work and money into building a successful program from reaching their desires. If only there was a set of metrics that could be met in order to allow schools to move up.

(07-16-2016 01:39 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  I thought this would be a fun off season thread! List any school that you think could easily be in FBS if they wanted to be.

1) Georgetown: The Hoyas could play their football in a newly renovated 40,000 capacity RFK Stadium. With their historic tradition in basketball and great academics, they would be a great fit in the ACC. Georgetown would get the ACC back into the Maryland/DC area. Provide a bridge between the Southern schools and the schools in the Northeast. Georgetown would also be a welcomed by former members of the Big East of Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville, especially for basketball and the rivalries. The one wild car would be Notre Dame who would like the addition of another Catholic East Coast Private School however the fact that it would mean no Navy could be an issue for Notre Dame. The Southern schools might not like the move up a non-scholarship FCS team to the ACC and might cause Florida State and Clemson bark at the idea. If the ACC was a no go the American would easily take Georgetown for their basketball and name brand.

2) Wichita State: Wichita State brings a great fan base and recent success in basketball has made them a household name. Wichita is located in small state with already two FBS programs but with their location in southern Kansas and being in a larger city helps. Wichita State's basketball, baseball and former football history (still have their stadium) would probably make them a take for the American or MWC, and easy take for the MAC, SBC, or C-USA. W

3) Ivy League: The entire 8 member Ivy League (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale) if decided to could be a dominate power in FBS. The Ivy League still has the most Division 1 National Champions of all time even though they have been playing at a lower level for 30 years no conference has caught up. At one point the Ivy League was the place to be for college athletes. When Yale visited Georgia in the 1930's it was the biggest home game in program history for UGA. With all the money and tradition the Ivy League has they could shake up college football if they desired.

4) Marquette: The Golden Eagles have great history in basketball and a football start up would probably cause them to take teams to take a look. Located in a large city and in a state with only one FBS program could make it easy for Marquette to gain fan support and get recruits. With no current stadium that could be an issue but Miller Park is always a valuable option. Marquette could be a football only school in the MAC to get the MAC into Wisconsin and Milwaukee and gain a name brand school.

5) James Madison: Large student base public school with great fan support in large populated state with only three FBS programs. James Madison has been looked at by FBS conference and even turned down some conferences. If they really wanted they could be an add for the Sun Belt to get the conference into Virginia/DC Area.

Who else do you think could be a FBS school if they desired?

Good list. I think Delaware could be FBS if they wanted it, and if a conference offered them a spot.

Guess Delaware could move up if they had the desire.

(07-16-2016 07:53 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  UC Davis. Their athletic budget is already larger than some FBS schools, their alumni base in California is huge, there's no competing NFL or FBS team in the 2.4 million population Sacramento metro area, and their stadium is designed to be expanded to seat 30,000.

They seem to have zero interest in moving up however.

PAC 12 would bring them along when the split happens. I think that they would go with the new split away conference.

(07-16-2016 10:00 PM)Clammy Wrote:  Good list. I think Delaware could be FBS if they wanted it, and if a conference offered them a spot.

And it may be possible that the MAC would offer them a spot, if they wanted to move up ... but there might be a fight between the eastern and western schools over that, given that the financial incentives have shifted.

JMU could have moved up if they wanted to take the Sun belt invite, but with the cap on the $1m/school dropped to $10m, that door might be closed, pending further conference realignment.

Marquette might tempt the MAC, but after their experience of here-again, gone-tomorrow FB-only schools in the last twenty years, the MAC would probably be looking for an all-sports invite if they make an invite at all.

Georgetown & the Ivy League are some of the sillier members of the list ... sure they could, "if they desired it," but they would have no desire for it, so it's a moot point.

Youngstown State has the local fan support and facilites. Also, there's the whole Jim Tressel is the university president and Bo Pellini is the football coach aspect. It's too bad Kent State and Akron are FBS. I wish that YSU were the MAC team and Akron joined the Horizon League and put it's football team in the CAA because YSU seems to have a football-centric athletic department in a non-football athletic conference, whereas Akron does well in the sports the Horizon League cares about, and the reduction in football scholarships by moving to FCS would allow them to bring back baseball.

(07-16-2016 11:56 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-16-2016 10:00 PM)Clammy Wrote:  Good list. I think Delaware could be FBS if they wanted it, and if a conference offered them a spot.

And it may be possible that the MAC would offer them a spot, if they wanted to move up ... but there might be a fight between the eastern and western schools over that, given that the financial incentives have shifted.

JMU could have moved up if they wanted to take the Sun belt invite, but with the cap on the $1m/school dropped to $10m, that door might be closed, pending further conference realignment.

JMU's decision to reject the SBC is going down in history as one of the stupidest moves all time to go with the Big East not voting in Penn State.

(07-17-2016 06:14 AM)dxdtdemon Wrote:  Youngstown State has the local fan support and facilites. Also, there's the whole Jim Tressel is the university president and Bo Pellini is the football coach aspect. It's too bad Kent State and Akron are FBS. I wish that YSU were the MAC team and Akron joined the Horizon League and put it's football team in the CAA because YSU seems to have a football-centric athletic department in a non-football athletic conference, whereas Akron does well in the sports the Horizon League cares about, and the reduction in football scholarships by moving to FCS would allow them to bring back baseball.

Akron and EMU are having financial difficulty and might pull the plug on FBS.

However the answer is not to substitute Youngstown Sate or Akron