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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
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The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
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EDLUVAR
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
I'm not comparing the MWC to P5 leagues. Just because the MWC has Las Vegas, San Diego, and Honolulu doesn't make it better than the pac 12 with Corvallis and Pullman. That sounds foolish.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
And it's actually 7k. That's the huge east coast bias you guys always talk about. And congrats on last year. Temple was up a whooping 89%! Guess hosting penn state once in a lifetime will give you that 1 year boost.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 11:49 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
I'm not comparing the MWC to P5 leagues. Just because the MWC has Las Vegas, San Diego, and Honolulu doesn't make it better than the pac 12 with Corvallis and Pullman. That sounds foolish.
it sounds foolish .. because you made it sound foolish
he said he likes the AAC because of the travel destinations over the big 12... literally no one said the AAC is better than the big 12..prefer doesn't mean better
and secondly you're cherry picking top to bottom the Pac 12 has way better travel destinations
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 12:00 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:49 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
I'm not comparing the MWC to P5 leagues. Just because the MWC has Las Vegas, San Diego, and Honolulu doesn't make it better than the pac 12 with Corvallis and Pullman. That sounds foolish.
it sounds foolish .. because you made it sound foolish
he said he likes the AAC because of the travel destinations over the big 12... literally no one said the AAC is better than the big 12..prefer doesn't mean better
and secondly you're cherry picking top to bottom the Pac 12 has way better travel destinations
He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 11:53 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
And it's actually 7k. That's the huge east coast bias you guys always talk about. And congrats on last year. Temple was up a whooping 89%! Guess hosting penn state once in a lifetime will give you that 1 year boost.
im sad to hear you're bad news, your life span is only 4 years..im here if you need someone to talk too,
people in the 2007 game couldn't see the 2011 game and those in the 2011 game couldn't see the 2015 game
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 12:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
i live in texas, houston.
every other weekend or 2 someone has plans to hangout in dallas
outside of South by Southwest (music/movie festival) no one not from austin goes there
austin is nice but dallas is a better travel destination
and let's remove the cherry picking, be honest which of these 2 do you want to travel
option 1
Orlando, Florida
Hartford, CT
Cincinnati, Ohio
Greenville, North Carolina
Houston, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Tampa, Florida
Dallas, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Tulsa, Oklahoma
New Orleans, Louisiana
Annapolis, Maryland
option 2
Waco, Texas
Ames, Iowa
Lawrence, Kansas
Manhattan, Kansas
Norman, Oklahoma
Stillwater, Oklahoma
Austin, Texas
Fort Worth, Texas
Lubbock, Texas
Morgantown, West Virginia
which do you choose? the answer is obvious, let see how biased you are..
(This post was last modified: 07-16-2016 12:23 PM by pesik.)
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: (07-15-2016 02:02 PM)YNot Wrote: Of course I would be happy for BYU to join the Big 12 - it gives my team a legitimate seat at the table.
But, FWIW, I would much rather see BYU play conference games against AAC schools in Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Orlando, Cincinnati, and Hartford, etc. than most Big 12 schools in "destinations" like Lubbock, Waco, Ames, Stillwater, and Manhattan (KS). (Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU excepted - and Kansas basketball...)
Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
Dude, door is new so pretty please with sugar on top, do not slam it on your way out... Door is that way ----------> ---------->
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 12:19 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
i live in texas, houston.
every other weekend or 2 someone has plans to hangout in dallas
outside of South by Southwest (music/movie festival) no one not from austin goes there
austin is nice but dallas is a better travel destination
and let's remove the cherry picking, be honest which of these 2 do you want to travel
option 1
Orlando, Florida
Hartford, CT
Cincinnati, Ohio
Greenville, North Carolina
Houston, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Tampa, Florida
Dallas, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Tulsa, Oklahoma
New Orleans, Louisiana
Annapolis, Maryland
option 2
Waco, Texas
Ames, Iowa
Lawrence, Kansas
Manhattan, Kansas
Norman, Oklahoma
Stillwater, Oklahoma
Austin, Texas
Fort Worth, Texas
Lubbock, Texas
Morgantown, West Virginia
which do you choose? the answer is obvious, let see how biased you are..
Are you going for football games or nightlife? Because the atmosphere in one of those lists is amazing for tailgating and big time football crowds. Please stop trying to imply the AAC is somehow more attractive than the big 12.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 12:07 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:53 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 07:14 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote: Wow, I've never really given this point much thought....but talk about visitor destination "night and days"....geesh! We really have nice cities to visit versus that lineup. Puke.
TM
The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
And it's actually 7k. That's the huge east coast bias you guys always talk about. And congrats on last year. Temple was up a whooping 89%! Guess hosting penn state once in a lifetime will give you that 1 year boost.
im sad to hear you're bad news, your life span is only 4 years..im here if you need someone to talk too,
people in the 2007 game couldn't see the 2011 game and those in the 2011 game couldn't see the 2015 game
When is the next time they are hosting them? I made it to 2020 without seeing them on the schedule.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 05:21 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:19 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
i live in texas, houston.
every other weekend or 2 someone has plans to hangout in dallas
outside of South by Southwest (music/movie festival) no one not from austin goes there
austin is nice but dallas is a better travel destination
and let's remove the cherry picking, be honest which of these 2 do you want to travel
option 1
Orlando, Florida
Hartford, CT
Cincinnati, Ohio
Greenville, North Carolina
Houston, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Tampa, Florida
Dallas, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Tulsa, Oklahoma
New Orleans, Louisiana
Annapolis, Maryland
option 2
Waco, Texas
Ames, Iowa
Lawrence, Kansas
Manhattan, Kansas
Norman, Oklahoma
Stillwater, Oklahoma
Austin, Texas
Fort Worth, Texas
Lubbock, Texas
Morgantown, West Virginia
which do you choose? the answer is obvious, let see how biased you are..
Are you going for football games or nightlife? Because the atmosphere in one of those lists is amazing for tailgating and big time football crowds. Please stop trying to imply the AAC is somehow more attractive than the big 12.
your are so manipulating its bothersome
we'll say 1 thing minor but you'll stretch it and twist it to make them seem crazy..
the entire point of topic is better travel destinations..that its
you then twisted all of that to saying we think we are better than the big 12 or a more attractive conference than the big 12..when no one said that
i said this "which do you choose? the answer is obvious, let see how biased you are.."
congrats youve made the answer obvious..you are ridiculously biased
you were asked a simple question..you could have taken the easy out.."okay the aac has better travel destinations but the big 12 is p5, has more money & bigger football brands so i prefer the big 12" you answered correctly and you still dissed the aac... and we'd have just left it at that. im not sure how much people will be able to take of you if you are going to manipulate every single thing we talk about.. atleast the sdsu guy can keep in straight forward for some conversations
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 05:42 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 05:21 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:19 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
i live in texas, houston.
every other weekend or 2 someone has plans to hangout in dallas
outside of South by Southwest (music/movie festival) no one not from austin goes there
austin is nice but dallas is a better travel destination
and let's remove the cherry picking, be honest which of these 2 do you want to travel
option 1
Orlando, Florida
Hartford, CT
Cincinnati, Ohio
Greenville, North Carolina
Houston, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Tampa, Florida
Dallas, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Tulsa, Oklahoma
New Orleans, Louisiana
Annapolis, Maryland
option 2
Waco, Texas
Ames, Iowa
Lawrence, Kansas
Manhattan, Kansas
Norman, Oklahoma
Stillwater, Oklahoma
Austin, Texas
Fort Worth, Texas
Lubbock, Texas
Morgantown, West Virginia
which do you choose? the answer is obvious, let see how biased you are..
Are you going for football games or nightlife? Because the atmosphere in one of those lists is amazing for tailgating and big time football crowds. Please stop trying to imply the AAC is somehow more attractive than the big 12.
your are so manipulating its bothersome
we'll say 1 thing minor but you'll stretch it and twist it to make them seem crazy..
the entire point of topic is better travel destinations..that its
you then twisted all of that to saying we think we are better than the big 12 or a more attractive conference than the big 12..when no one said that
i said this "which do you choose? the answer is obvious, let see how biased you are.."
congrats youve made the answer obvious..you are ridiculously biased
you were asked a simple question..you could have taken the easy out.."okay the aac has better travel destinations but the big 12 is p5, has more money & bigger football brands so i prefer the big 12" you answered correctly and you still dissed the aac... and we'd have just left it at that. im not sure how much people will be able to take of you if you are going to manipulate every single thing we talk about.. atleast the sdsu guy can keep in straight forward for some conversations
The most attractive for me would be going to a Texas game, eating good bbq and playing Austin country club. But that's just me. Philly is fun I used to go for work all the time. I was going to go to the Cincy game had bsu joined because I have not visited yet. My .02.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 12:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:00 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:49 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 10:48 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: The big 12 averages 25-30k more people per game than the AAC. Yeah that atmosphere sucks for college football.
and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
I'm not comparing the MWC to P5 leagues. Just because the MWC has Las Vegas, San Diego, and Honolulu doesn't make it better than the pac 12 with Corvallis and Pullman. That sounds foolish.
it sounds foolish .. because you made it sound foolish
he said he likes the AAC because of the travel destinations over the big 12... literally no one said the AAC is better than the big 12..prefer doesn't mean better
and secondly you're cherry picking top to bottom the Pac 12 has way better travel destinations
He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
Sign that you and your conference suck...you spend ALL your time here.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
(07-16-2016 10:00 PM)isidnirb Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 12:00 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:49 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote: (07-16-2016 11:31 AM)pesik Wrote: and the aac avergaes 10k more people per game than the mwc
I'm not comparing the MWC to P5 leagues. Just because the MWC has Las Vegas, San Diego, and Honolulu doesn't make it better than the pac 12 with Corvallis and Pullman. That sounds foolish.
it sounds foolish .. because you made it sound foolish
he said he likes the AAC because of the travel destinations over the big 12... literally no one said the AAC is better than the big 12..prefer doesn't mean better
and secondly you're cherry picking top to bottom the Pac 12 has way better travel destinations
He pointed out Lubbock and Stillwater lol. Who is cherry picking. Austin trumps Dallas by a mile.
Sign that you and your conference suck...you spend ALL your time here.
I love you guys! Whatcha talking about. And BSU has been terrible only winning 1/2 the access bowls so far. I expect more from them.
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RE: Big 12 Expanding with Byu Tuesday
Man why all the mwc trollers all up done gone woken up the walking dead now.
Didn't mean to start another expansion thread heaven forbid a better place and night life between the AAC and the west coast P12 thread
For you AAC I love y'all and I just wanted to see if it was true or a rumor.
I will go off and do my barrel rolls now.
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