I posted gasouthern over a year ago. Of course theyd be great after teh southern miss

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  --ignoring the horrible academic rankings
--that 90% of their stadium is only 23k
-- that in 2013 prior it was more like 65% capacity and the 2014 spike might have been because they were favored to win the sunbelt and the high of joining the fbs
--that theyve only been full fbs for 1 year and have already been hit with ncaa sanctions
-- that their athletic budget is half the size of the smallest AAC team
-- that they can only win using the triple option
-- that statesboro has a population of 30k (70% students) and the surrounding metro (reasonable drive) is about 72k total

beyond that Why not Georgia Southern?

- We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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Id take a sellout 100 over 40k in a 50k stadium anyday

(07-11-2016 11:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  --ignoring the horrible academic rankings
--that 90% of their stadium is only 23k
-- that in 2013 prior it was more like 65% capacity and the 2014 spike might have been because they were favored to win the sunbelt and the high of joining the fbs
--that theyve only been full fbs for 1 year and have already been hit with ncaa sanctions
-- that their athletic budget is half the size of the smallest AAC team
-- that they can only win using the triple option
-- that statesboro has a population of 30k (70% students) and the surrounding metro (reasonable drive) is about 72k total

beyond that Why not Georgia Southern?

- We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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1) conference reflect the schools they represent. for example the presidential elections referenced the southern states as the SEC states by every media outlet, naive illinois state congress put millions into figuring out how to add more teams into the big 10 to improve their academic standing.. you don't have to be great academically but you don't want teams dragging you down ..and harvard and yale could have been in the sec in yesteryear if they so chose..they willing decided to deemphaze sports.. the ivy league name is for an "athletic" conference but we all know it as more than that

2) "Number of seats doesn't matter" okay someone's naive to realignment...curious why everyone is increasing capacity then..this is a foolish response

3) College towns are better than big metros...if you control the state you reside in... i fixed it for you

im not sure you understand how realignment works

2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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(07-11-2016 11:41 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  --ignoring the horrible academic rankings
--that 90% of their stadium is only 23k
-- that in 2013 prior it was more like 65% capacity and the 2014 spike might have been because they were favored to win the sunbelt and the high of joining the fbs
--that theyve only been full fbs for 1 year and have already been hit with ncaa sanctions
-- that their athletic budget is half the size of the smallest AAC team
-- that they can only win using the triple option
-- that statesboro has a population of 30k (70% students) and the surrounding metro (reasonable drive) is about 72k total

beyond that Why not Georgia Southern?

- We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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1) conference reflect the schools they represent. for example the presidential elections referenced the southern states as the SEC states by every media outlet, naive illinois state congress put millions into figuring out how to add more teams into the big 10 to improve their academic standing.. you don't have to be great academically but you don't want teams dragging you down ..and harvard and yale could have been in the sec in yesteryear if they so chose..they willing decided to deemphaze sports.. the ivy league name is for an "athletic" conference but we all know it as more than that

2) "Number of seats doesn't matter" okay someone's naive to realignment...curious why everyone is increasing capacity then..this is a foolish response

3) College towns are better than big metros...if you control the state you reside in... i fixed it for you

im not sure you understand how realignment works

2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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U do understand that TV runs things, correct? This is absurd.

It's about supply and demand. If your supply is too large for the demand than you won't have a huge demand and your numbers will be poor. On the other hands if you have too low of a supply than the demand is there and your numbers will look amazing.

It's also about atmosphere. A near sellout crowd in a intimate stadium is tougher to play in than a large stadium not even half full or even 10% full.

ECU had a great balance until Ruff showed he wasn't an AAC coach (plus easier TV access has to be accounted here)


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Close this thread. Dumbest post of the year.

(07-11-2016 11:35 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:26 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  --ignoring the horrible academic rankings
--that 90% of their stadium is only 23k
-- that in 2013 prior it was more like 65% capacity and the 2014 spike might have been because they were favored to win the sunbelt and the high of joining the fbs
--that theyve only been full fbs for 1 year and have already been hit with ncaa sanctions
-- that their athletic budget is half the size of the smallest AAC team
-- that they can only win using the triple option
-- that statesboro has a population of 30k (70% students) and the surrounding metro (reasonable drive) is about 72k total

beyond that Why not Georgia Southern?

- We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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Ahhh...well life has now been explained. Good thing you guys didnt join a conference of schools in big metros...


...waaaaait a minute...

SEC - full of college towns


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Your conference ain't...

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(07-11-2016 11:43 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:41 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  --ignoring the horrible academic rankings
--that 90% of their stadium is only 23k
-- that in 2013 prior it was more like 65% capacity and the 2014 spike might have been because they were favored to win the sunbelt and the high of joining the fbs
--that theyve only been full fbs for 1 year and have already been hit with ncaa sanctions
-- that their athletic budget is half the size of the smallest AAC team
-- that they can only win using the triple option
-- that statesboro has a population of 30k (70% students) and the surrounding metro (reasonable drive) is about 72k total

beyond that Why not Georgia Southern?

- We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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1) conference reflect the schools they represent. for example the presidential elections referenced the southern states as the SEC states by every media outlet, naive illinois state congress put millions into figuring out how to add more teams into the big 10 to improve their academic standing.. you don't have to be great academically but you don't want teams dragging you down ..and harvard and yale could have been in the sec in yesteryear if they so chose..they willing decided to deemphaze sports.. the ivy league name is for an "athletic" conference but we all know it as more than that

2) "Number of seats doesn't matter" okay someone's naive to realignment...curious why everyone is increasing capacity then..this is a foolish response

3) College towns are better than big metros...if you control the state you reside in... i fixed it for you

im not sure you understand how realignment works

2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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U do understand that TV runs things, correct? This is absurd.

Right so you get GA without having to settle for GA state's horrid 15k in an NFL stadium


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Shere,

Don't cosign.

(07-11-2016 11:41 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  --ignoring the horrible academic rankings
--that 90% of their stadium is only 23k
-- that in 2013 prior it was more like 65% capacity and the 2014 spike might have been because they were favored to win the sunbelt and the high of joining the fbs
--that theyve only been full fbs for 1 year and have already been hit with ncaa sanctions
-- that their athletic budget is half the size of the smallest AAC team
-- that they can only win using the triple option
-- that statesboro has a population of 30k (70% students) and the surrounding metro (reasonable drive) is about 72k total

beyond that Why not Georgia Southern?

- We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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1) conference reflect the schools they represent. for example the presidential elections referenced the southern states as the SEC states by every media outlet, naive illinois state congress put millions into figuring out how to add more teams into the big 10 to improve their academic standing.. you don't have to be great academically but you don't want teams dragging you down ..and harvard and yale could have been in the sec in yesteryear if they so chose..they willing decided to deemphaze sports.. the ivy league name is for an "athletic" conference but we all know it as more than that

2) "Number of seats doesn't matter" okay someone's naive to realignment...curious why everyone is increasing capacity then..this is a foolish response

3) College towns are better than big metros...if you control the state you reside in... i fixed it for you

im not sure you understand how realignment works

2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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neither... if you arent doing atleast 25k in any stadium, ill pass... if you arent capable of doing 30 ill pass

sdsu doing 35k in a 60k nfl stadium > odu doing 19k in a 19k stadium
umass is my one exception, and thats my controlling a populated state exception

(07-11-2016 11:50 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Right so you get GA without having to settle for GA state's horrid 15k in an NFL stadium


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we don't want ga state either...why are you making it seem like we want ga state and you're saying ga southern is better

we are saying neither

NONE OF THE ABOVE. Jesus. Why would we want anyone in the Sunbelt or CUSA?

(07-11-2016 11:47 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  It's about supply and demand. If your supply is too large for the demand than you won't have a huge demand and your numbers will be poor. On the other hands if you have too low of a supply than the demand is there and your numbers will look amazing.

It's also about atmosphere. A near sellout crowd in a intimate stadium is tougher to play in than a large stadium not even half full or even 10% full.

ECU had a great balance until Ruff showed he wasn't an AAC coach (plus easier TV access has to be accounted here)


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Big South adds ECU

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(07-11-2016 11:50 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:43 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:41 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:23 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  - We are talking athletics not academics. If we were talking academics Yale and Harvard would be in the SEC.

- Number of seats doesn't matter. It's about if you can fill the stadium you are in, and a lot of schools aren't able to do that (Eastern Michigan, Tulane in the dome, UAB, Ga State, etc)

- I looked at 2015 numbers.

- College towns are better than big metros.


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1) conference reflect the schools they represent. for example the presidential elections referenced the southern states as the SEC states by every media outlet, naive illinois state congress put millions into figuring out how to add more teams into the big 10 to improve their academic standing.. you don't have to be great academically but you don't want teams dragging you down ..and harvard and yale could have been in the sec in yesteryear if they so chose..they willing decided to deemphaze sports.. the ivy league name is for an "athletic" conference but we all know it as more than that

2) "Number of seats doesn't matter" okay someone's naive to realignment...curious why everyone is increasing capacity then..this is a foolish response

3) College towns are better than big metros...if you control the state you reside in... i fixed it for you

im not sure you understand how realignment works

2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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U do understand that TV runs things, correct? This is absurd.

Right so you get GA without having to settle for GA state's horrid 15k in an NFL stadium


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Lol...we bought a MLB ballpark genius

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(07-11-2016 11:47 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  It's about supply and demand. If your supply is too large for the demand than you won't have a huge demand and your numbers will be poor. On the other hands if you have too low of a supply than the demand is there and your numbers will look amazing.

It's also about atmosphere. A near sellout crowd in a intimate stadium is tougher to play in than a large stadium not even half full or even 10% full.

ECU had a great balance until Ruff showed he wasn't an AAC coach (plus easier TV access has to be accounted here)


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From one ECU fan to another. Just stop.

(07-11-2016 11:59 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  NONE OF THE ABOVE. Jesus. Why would we want anyone in the Sunbelt or CUSA?

Just to bring you back to reality, the Big East teams were probably saying the same thing about ECU when you were in CUSA not long ago. Then they were gone shortly after you guys joined.

You have a great program that unfortunately was at the wrong place at the wrong time but no need to belittle other programs. USM for example has a higher win percentage and claims two national titles.

And shame on you ECU fans for making fun of Georgia Southern you should know better than anyone that you can only play the teams on your schedule.

I don't think they are quite ready to join the AAC but some of you guys are acting like they have the plague lol.

(07-11-2016 11:15 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:03 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  Outside of the reason we don’t need to add anyone there are three. Athletic budget 21 million, academic ranking is not published, basketball RPI 176.

Besides those 4 reasons I think they are a great add.

- Budget increases with the AAC from added ticket revenue and a much better TV deal. The average AAC athletic budget is 45 million, with UConn over 70 million. GA Southern has a 25,000 seat football stadium, if they are averaging 20,000 per game now and filled the stadium to capacity for every home game, then charged $100 per ticket you add an additional $500,000 per game. With 6 home games the best you could hope for is 3 million additional. Add in 2 million from the TV deal and you are at 26 million, just over half of the average AAC budget. Where is the rest coming from?

- We are an athletic conference not an academic conference, plus we already have our token great academic school. You can speak for ECU on that one. One of the key comments during the Big 12 expansion discussion was the commissioner and AD’s saying they need a candidate that moved the needed competitively AND academically. Boise is where it is now due in part to their academics. Some of the AAC schools focus more on academics than others, but with the recent investments in research and campus infrastructure it’s safe to say that to the AAC university presidents’ academics matter.

- Still better than some of our current members (ECU included sadly) and would rise since the AAC is better than the Sun Belt. The conference affiliation doesn’t raise a programs RPI, on the court performance does and a weak program competing at a higher level only makes that tougher. Case in point, 2013-14 ECU basketball RPI in CUSA 219. ECU basketball RPI in the AAC in 2014-15 220 and in 2015-16 it was 211. Where will Ga Southern get the money to invest in a coach and facilities to compete in a multi bid nation conference?

Also I see them as a member that's added next to an Army or BYU. I don’t think you can put Ga Southern on the same level when it comes to value to the AAC as Army and BYU.


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(07-11-2016 12:27 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:59 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  NONE OF THE ABOVE. Jesus. Why would we want anyone in the Sunbelt or CUSA?

Just to bring you back to reality, the Big East teams were probably saying the same thing about ECU when you were in CUSA not long ago. Then they were gone shortly after you guys joined.

You have a great program that unfortunately was at the wrong place at the wrong time but no need to belittle other programs. USM for example has a higher win percentage and claims two national titles.

And shame on you ECU fans for making fun of Georgia Southern you should know better than anyone that you can only play the teams on your schedule.

I don't think they are quite ready to join the AAC but some of you guys are acting like they have the plague lol.

This is a message board, we have no shame.

(07-11-2016 12:09 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:50 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:43 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:41 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  1) conference reflect the schools they represent. for example the presidential elections referenced the southern states as the SEC states by every media outlet, naive illinois state congress put millions into figuring out how to add more teams into the big 10 to improve their academic standing.. you don't have to be great academically but you don't want teams dragging you down ..and harvard and yale could have been in the sec in yesteryear if they so chose..they willing decided to deemphaze sports.. the ivy league name is for an "athletic" conference but we all know it as more than that

2) "Number of seats doesn't matter" okay someone's naive to realignment...curious why everyone is increasing capacity then..this is a foolish response

3) College towns are better than big metros...if you control the state you reside in... i fixed it for you

im not sure you understand how realignment works

2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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U do understand that TV runs things, correct? This is absurd.

Right so you get GA without having to settle for GA state's horrid 15k in an NFL stadium


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Lol...we bought a MLB ballpark genius

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Congratulations! Will look just as empty as the dome with the addition of now having to spend money maintaining it

In regards to GS attendance we filled up playing Socon teams, we expanded the stadium and still fill up playing Sunbelt teams. Both of these conferences have few teams that move the collective GS interest meter. What makes you guys think that we won't expand again and continue filling up if we ever made the move into the AAC with an old rival UCF (if you want to call it that) and away fans that actually travel more?

(07-11-2016 12:49 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 12:09 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:50 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:43 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 11:41 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  2. Do you want someone who puts 23-24k in a 25k in a college town or 15k in an 80+k NFL stadium in a large metro?


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U do understand that TV runs things, correct? This is absurd.

Right so you get GA without having to settle for GA state's horrid 15k in an NFL stadium


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Lol...we bought a MLB ballpark genius

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Congratulations! Will look just as empty as the dome with the addition of now having to spend money maintaining it

In regards to GS attendance we filled up playing Socon teams, we expanded the stadium and still fill up playing Sunbelt teams. Both of these conferences have few teams that move the collective GS interest meter. What makes you guys think that we won't expand again and continue filling up if we ever made the move into the AAC with an old rival UCF (if you want to call it that) and away fans that actually travel more?

About as empty as the last 20 minutes of our game in Statesboro last year...



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