I hope the ACC does better than with ESPN but what relationship does the ACC have now with NBC?

(07-17-2016 08:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I hope the ACC does better than with ESPN but what relationship does the ACC have now with NBC?

NONE. The ACC has more of a relationship with CBS (Sun Bowl, some basketball games) than it does with NBC.

(07-17-2016 08:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 08:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I hope the ACC does better than with ESPN but what relationship does the ACC have now with NBC?

NONE. The ACC has more of a relationship with CBS (Sun Bowl, some basketball games) than it does with NBC.

That was my thought but wondered if I was missing something here.

(07-13-2016 10:04 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 09:27 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I just don't get the ND obsession.

ND is not taking anything away from the other schools in the conference and no one can demonstrate what they would add if they played 3 more conference football games.

How is ND special once they play a full conference schedule.

Does the conference benefit from ND playing BC, Wake Forest, Duke, Louisville, etc., more than the conference benefits from ND playing USC, Stanford, Navy, and hopefully stomping an annual mudhole in a B10 team?

As I see it, we have the best of all worlds as of now.

1. We get to mix in ND's strength of schedule versus the P12 and B10 into ours.
2. We get national telecasts of games that otherwise wouldn't justify anything beyond Raycom.
3. We get paid some of their football, but don't have to risk a spot in the ACC title game with them

Some may say the ND is getting special treatment, but who else in the conference would be able to schedule as ND does?

What's the return on the 3 additional games? What division gets ND? As of now every school sees ND at least once every three years, in the current divisional alignment we see our non-rival every 6 years. Someone will get screwed and that screwing will go to the Atlantic Division as sure as ****.

(Northern Division)
Boston College
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
Miami

(Southern Division)
Virginia
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State

(07-13-2016 01:32 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Well, that is how it should be done, regardless.

I agree with both of you...when Cincinnati was part of the Big East that contained Notre Dame for "olympic" sports only, any football games scheduled with them to play Big East teams just didn't happen. I've never been a proponent of Notre Dame's "independence with privileges" status, but at least for now, the ACC gets the high profile Irish for 5 football games that adds to your SOS and putting butts in the seats/pushing fan/media interest higher.

In terms of Wilkie's Northern Division, Cincinnati's geographic location fits in nicely from a travel perspective, and Louisville and Pittsburgh in particular, present good natural rivalry opportunities from the old Big East days. Notre Dame makes sense there as well for travel purposes. Sorry, I'll now take off my homer glasses and return you to your normal programming...

(07-17-2016 11:19 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 08:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 08:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I hope the ACC does better than with ESPN but what relationship does the ACC have now with NBC?

NONE. The ACC has more of a relationship with CBS (Sun Bowl, some basketball games) than it does with NBC.

That was my thought but wondered if I was missing something here.

I took the post you were referring to to mean the writer hoped ND would use their relationship with NBC to benefit the ACC. Not that the ACC would use their relationship.

When is the contract between the ACC and Notre Dame up? I know it's got an end date. Who holds the stronger hand then? Will the relative strength of the parties be any different then than at the time the contract was first signed?

(07-17-2016 05:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  When is the contract between the ACC and Notre Dame up? I know it's got an end date. Who holds the stronger hand then? Will the relative strength of the parties be any different then than at the time the contract was first signed?

Hard to say. Both have gotten stronger since the deal was struck.

(07-17-2016 11:19 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 08:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 08:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I hope the ACC does better than with ESPN but what relationship does the ACC have now with NBC?

NONE. The ACC has more of a relationship with CBS (Sun Bowl, some basketball games) than it does with NBC.

That was my thought but wondered if I was missing something here.

The ACC has a relationship with Notre Dame thus allowing them to have a relationship with NBC if ESPN drops the ball. Everyone thinks that ESPN wants ND to join the ACC and then a ACC network may come..

I disagree, and think if ESPN drops the ball the ACC needs to walk from ESPN, however with FOX tied up who and where could the ACC go?? Simple NBC, thus allowing ND to stay Indy and allowing the ACC a landing spot... Just a thought... I think ESPN may be gambling that the ACC will not have the balls to walk...

(07-17-2016 05:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  When is the contract between the ACC and Notre Dame up? I know it's got an end date. Who holds the stronger hand then? Will the relative strength of the parties be any different then than at the time the contract was first signed?

The football scheduling agreement runs through 2025, I believe.

In 2013, Notre Dame entered a football scheduling agreement with the ACC through 2025. The Fighting Irish will play four to six games against ACC opponents each season while the agreement is in place. Notre Dame is a member of the ACC for all other sports."

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...e-schedule


http://www.theacc.com/news/acc-notre-dam...2014-10-21


ND is supposed to have signed a separate agreement with the ACC that, if ND football has to join a conference, it will be the ACC. That deal supposedly runs through 2025 and is in addition to the GOR and the exit fee that ND agreed to.


"Brando says that if Notre Dame joins a conference in the next 10 years, the ACC is the only option:

“No, Notre Dame cannot have a wandering eye. They not only signed a grant of rights with the ACC, but they signed an additional contract, which mandates that if they do become a conference member in football, there is no other place they can do that other than the Atlantic Coast Conference. And that’s through the year 2025. So (ACC commissioner) John Swofford and his people did a remarkable job when they brought Notre Dame in, to secure that when the Irish blue bloods decided ‘you know what, maybe it’s time to join a conference,’ they need to do that.”


http://collegespun.com/acc/syracuse/fs1s...ng-network



ND's contract with NBC is up for renewal the same year, 2025.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-deal-2025

(07-18-2016 06:35 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 05:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  When is the contract between the ACC and Notre Dame up? I know it's got an end date. Who holds the stronger hand then? Will the relative strength of the parties be any different then than at the time the contract was first signed?

The football scheduling agreement runs through 2025, I believe.

In 2013, Notre Dame entered a football scheduling agreement with the ACC through 2025. The Fighting Irish will play four to six games against ACC opponents each season while the agreement is in place. Notre Dame is a member of the ACC for all other sports."

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...e-schedule


http://www.theacc.com/news/acc-notre-dam...2014-10-21


ND is supposed to have signed a separate agreement with the ACC that, if ND football has to join a conference, it will be the ACC. That deal supposedly runs through 2025 and is in addition to the GOR and the exit fee that ND agreed to.


"Brando says that if Notre Dame joins a conference in the next 10 years, the ACC is the only option:

“No, Notre Dame cannot have a wandering eye. They not only signed a grant of rights with the ACC, but they signed an additional contract, which mandates that if they do become a conference member in football, there is no other place they can do that other than the Atlantic Coast Conference. And that’s through the year 2025. So (ACC commissioner) John Swofford and his people did a remarkable job when they brought Notre Dame in, to secure that when the Irish blue bloods decided ‘you know what, maybe it’s time to join a conference,’ they need to do that.”


http://collegespun.com/acc/syracuse/fs1s...ng-network



ND's contract with NBC is up for renewal the same year, 2025.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-deal-2025

IF Notre Dame were to join the ACC (full time for football), then Wilkie's lineup is probably the best , period.
If the Irish choose to stay a partial member of the ACC (under the current scenario, partial for football, full member for everything else), a lot of other possibilities open up. Most likely would be the addition of Texas as a partial member and one other Big 12 school (most likely TCU) as a full member. Then I think the ACC would stay with 15 +2. While this situation may not be considered ideal, it would open up huge markets for the ACC (TV) and give Notre Dame a "home" (Texas, TCU) in an area (as TerryD has pointed out) that the Irish want to play in on a regular basis.

according to Teel, ND's 5 games/year is in perpetuity as long as ND is a member of all other sports. the only way to get out of the 5 games/year in football is to leave the ACC and deal with the exit fee and GOR.

(07-18-2016 06:35 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 05:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  When is the contract between the ACC and Notre Dame up? I know it's got an end date. Who holds the stronger hand then? Will the relative strength of the parties be any different then than at the time the contract was first signed?

The football scheduling agreement runs through 2025, I believe.

In 2013, Notre Dame entered a football scheduling agreement with the ACC through 2025. The Fighting Irish will play four to six games against ACC opponents each season while the agreement is in place. Notre Dame is a member of the ACC for all other sports."

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...e-schedule


http://www.theacc.com/news/acc-notre-dam...2014-10-21


ND is supposed to have signed a separate agreement with the ACC that, if ND football has to join a conference, it will be the ACC. That deal supposedly runs through 2025 and is in addition to the GOR and the exit fee that ND agreed to.


"Brando says that if Notre Dame joins a conference in the next 10 years, the ACC is the only option:

“No, Notre Dame cannot have a wandering eye. They not only signed a grant of rights with the ACC, but they signed an additional contract, which mandates that if they do become a conference member in football, there is no other place they can do that other than the Atlantic Coast Conference. And that’s through the year 2025. So (ACC commissioner) John Swofford and his people did a remarkable job when they brought Notre Dame in, to secure that when the Irish blue bloods decided ‘you know what, maybe it’s time to join a conference,’ they need to do that.”


http://collegespun.com/acc/syracuse/fs1s...ng-network



ND's contract with NBC is up for renewal the same year, 2025.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-deal-2025

(07-18-2016 07:34 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  according to Teel, ND's 5 games/year is in perpetuity as long as ND is a member of all other sports. the only way to get out of the 5 games/year in football is to leave the ACC and deal with the exit fee and GOR.

(07-18-2016 06:35 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 05:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  When is the contract between the ACC and Notre Dame up? I know it's got an end date. Who holds the stronger hand then? Will the relative strength of the parties be any different then than at the time the contract was first signed?

The football scheduling agreement runs through 2025, I believe.

In 2013, Notre Dame entered a football scheduling agreement with the ACC through 2025. The Fighting Irish will play four to six games against ACC opponents each season while the agreement is in place. Notre Dame is a member of the ACC for all other sports."

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...e-schedule


http://www.theacc.com/news/acc-notre-dam...2014-10-21


ND is supposed to have signed a separate agreement with the ACC that, if ND football has to join a conference, it will be the ACC. That deal supposedly runs through 2025 and is in addition to the GOR and the exit fee that ND agreed to.


"Brando says that if Notre Dame joins a conference in the next 10 years, the ACC is the only option:

“No, Notre Dame cannot have a wandering eye. They not only signed a grant of rights with the ACC, but they signed an additional contract, which mandates that if they do become a conference member in football, there is no other place they can do that other than the Atlantic Coast Conference. And that’s through the year 2025. So (ACC commissioner) John Swofford and his people did a remarkable job when they brought Notre Dame in, to secure that when the Irish blue bloods decided ‘you know what, maybe it’s time to join a conference,’ they need to do that.”


http://collegespun.com/acc/syracuse/fs1s...ng-network



ND's contract with NBC is up for renewal the same year, 2025.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-deal-2025

Teel may be right, but I am only stating (and linking) what the articles say about the actual contracts executed between the ACC and ND.

I leave this site for six months to a year and when I come back I see the same old Notre Dame threads that were posted last year. Neat...