(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:50 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:42 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  And ESPN gave bsu their own tv deal to share with the MWC because they valued bsu football so much. And blogs? MWC has state land grant schools. Beyond uconn the AAC is comprised of directional schools and some privates.

first of usc is a directional school ..im guessing youd pass on them

& houston, cincy, temple??

and what does being a land grant in a state that has 500k population , 1.4 mil and 2 mil have to do with anything ..the Houston metro is bigger than all those states combined

and our "directional" schools are all capable of better attendance than 100% of the mwc when they are winning and for ecu even when they are losing

USC is a private school. Ucla is a directional school though. They have a bit of history playing big time football for over 100 years though.

How is UCLA a directional school? lol

University of California at Los Angeles. University of California is in Berkley.

That's a city named school ( plenty of them in the P5). An example of a directional school would be North Texas or South Alabama (i.e. direction + state name).


Nice try, though.

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  ^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^

You don't need Boise. In fact, I think Boise has already begun to decline. Creating a unique identity as the country's only nationwide conference while weakening your primary competition for the annual G5 slot is the best way to create a defacto #6 power conference (or as close to it as we are going to get).

This ^^^.

I will add that the American will only look west if the money is there and they are going to 16. Then all 4 school will have been named and none of there names begin with a "B".

The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:50 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:42 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  first of usc is a directional school ..im guessing youd pass on them

& houston, cincy, temple??

and what does being a land grant in a state that has 500k population , 1.4 mil and 2 mil have to do with anything ..the Houston metro is bigger than all those states combined

and our "directional" schools are all capable of better attendance than 100% of the mwc when they are winning and for ecu even when they are losing

USC is a private school. Ucla is a directional school though. They have a bit of history playing big time football for over 100 years though.

How is UCLA a directional school? lol

University of California at Los Angeles. University of California is in Berkley.

That's a city named school ( plenty of them in the P5). An example of a directional school would be North Texas or South Alabama (i.e. direction + state name).


Nice try, though.

Boise is a city school, Cincinnati is a city school. UCLA is a division of the university of California. Not Los Angeles university. UCLA is the southern branch of the university of California.

I think I'm going to go hang in the MWC board all day...

(07-09-2016 01:13 PM)aac4life Wrote:  I think I'm going to go hang in the MWC board all day...

They have a board????

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  ^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^

You don't need Boise. In fact, I think Boise has already begun to decline. Creating a unique identity as the country's only nationwide conference while weakening your primary competition for the annual G5 slot is the best way to create a defacto #6 power conference (or as close to it as we are going to get).

This ^^^.

I will add that the American will only look west if the money is there and they are going to 16. Then all 4 school will have been named and none of there names begin with a "B".

The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

(07-09-2016 01:13 PM)aac4life Wrote:  I think I'm going to go hang in the MWC board all day...

They have a topic about Larry brown leaving.

(07-09-2016 01:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:50 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:42 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  USC is a private school. Ucla is a directional school though. They have a bit of history playing big time football for over 100 years though.

How is UCLA a directional school? lol

University of California at Los Angeles. University of California is in Berkley.

That's a city named school ( plenty of them in the P5). An example of a directional school would be North Texas or South Alabama (i.e. direction + state name).


Nice try, though.

Boise is a city school, Cincinnati is a city school. UCLA is a division of the university of California. Not Los Angeles university. UCLA is the southern branch of the university of California.

East Carolina is part of the University of North Carolina, so does that make it not a directional school? lol


What about Northwestern? lol USC? lol ( I know they're both private, just ******* around).


Yes, Cincy, obviously, is a city school; so are P5 schools, Louisville, Syracuse, and Pitt, so the bogus directional/city named school argument is moot.

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  ^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^

You don't need Boise. In fact, I think Boise has already begun to decline. Creating a unique identity as the country's only nationwide conference while weakening your primary competition for the annual G5 slot is the best way to create a defacto #6 power conference (or as close to it as we are going to get).

This ^^^.

I will add that the American will only look west if the money is there and they are going to 16. Then all 4 school will have been named and none of there names begin with a "B".

The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

At this the time of the western build, the BCS was being dismantled and that held up some of the voting on whom to invite. Then when Boise State jumped ship, there was no where to go form there. We had already invited SMU. We were at 10, UConn, Temple, UC, Memphis, Navy, ECU, USF, UCF, Houston and SMU. We had already invited Boise and SDSU, that would have given us 12. They were replaced with Tulsa and Tulane. Tulane was voted in by the Catholic 7. So please refresh my memory.

Nice try though.

(07-09-2016 01:20 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:13 PM)aac4life Wrote:  I think I'm going to go hang in the MWC board all day...

They have a topic about Larry brown leaving.

Nah, mang, I don't hang where I'm not wanted; you know, like you...

(07-09-2016 01:22 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  This ^^^.

I will add that the American will only look west if the money is there and they are going to 16. Then all 4 school will have been named and none of there names begin with a "B".

The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

Nice try though.

Bro, The Catholic 7 left, because of the addition of Tulane (and other non bball schools) watering down the league basketball wise.

(07-09-2016 01:21 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:50 PM)aac4life Wrote:  How is UCLA a directional school? lol

University of California at Los Angeles. University of California is in Berkley.

That's a city named school ( plenty of them in the P5). An example of a directional school would be North Texas or South Alabama (i.e. direction + state name).


Nice try, though.

Boise is a city school, Cincinnati is a city school. UCLA is a division of the university of California. Not Los Angeles university. UCLA is the southern branch of the university of California.

East Carolina is part of North Carolina, so does that make it not a directional school? lol


What about Northwestern? lol USC? lol ( I know they're both private, just ******* around).


Yes, Cincy, obviously, is a city school; so are P5 schools, Louisville, Syracuse, and Pitt, so the bogus directional/city named school argument is moot.

Is ECU called university of North Carolina at Greenville and associated with the university of North Carolina? I like the AAC. I just find the fanboy perceptions of superiority and the ability to pull MWC schools hilarious when in fact the opposite have happened.

(07-09-2016 01:22 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  This ^^^.

I will add that the American will only look west if the money is there and they are going to 16. Then all 4 school will have been named and none of there names begin with a "B".

The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

At this the time of the western build, the BCS was being dismantled and that held up some of the voting on whom to invite. Then when Boise State jumped ship, there was no where to go form there. We had already invited SMU. We were at 10, UConn, Temple, UC, Memphis, Navy, ECU, USF, UCF, Houston and SMU. We had already invited Boise and SDSU, that would have given us 12. They were replaced with Tulsa and Tulane. Tulane was voted in by the Catholic 7. So please refresh my memory.

Nice try though.

I thought ECU was a football only add, until the Catholic 7 left, at which point they were then added as a full member?

(07-09-2016 01:26 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:22 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

Nice try though.

Bro, The Catholic 7 left, because of the addition of Tulane (and other non bball schools) watering down the league basketball wise.

Please check your conference history. The Catholic 7 pushed for Tulane and then claimed them as their reason for leaving. it's in the records and has been talked about ad nauseam on this board.

(07-09-2016 01:27 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:21 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 12:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  University of California at Los Angeles. University of California is in Berkley.

That's a city named school ( plenty of them in the P5). An example of a directional school would be North Texas or South Alabama (i.e. direction + state name).


Nice try, though.

Boise is a city school, Cincinnati is a city school. UCLA is a division of the university of California. Not Los Angeles university. UCLA is the southern branch of the university of California.

East Carolina is part of North Carolina, so does that make it not a directional school? lol


What about Northwestern? lol USC? lol ( I know they're both private, just ******* around).


Yes, Cincy, obviously, is a city school; so are P5 schools, Louisville, Syracuse, and Pitt, so the bogus directional/city named school argument is moot.

Is ECU called university of North Carolina at Greenville and associated with the university of North Carolina?

ECU is part of the University of North Carolina System; so, yeah, it is associated with UNC.

I think most people would have more sense than to lecture about a school that has not had a losing season since 1997 as "being in decline" because they had a 9-4 season in 2015

especially when that school has been ranked 10 times in that same time period and gone 11-5 in bowl games with 2 BCS wins

all the more so coming from a fan of a program that has been ranked only two times in that same period of years, they have had 8 losing seasons and one tie season in that same time period and they had a losing season as recently as 2012 and they are 10-12-1 in their HISTORY in bowl games which means Boise has 1 more bowl win since 1997 than that program has since 1952 and since 1997 that program is 4-6 in bowls which means they PLAYED in one less bowl than Boise WON in that same time period and they have to claim a fake BCS win from a bowl that no one considers to be a BCS bowl

but yea that one "da season doh" means you are going to dominate for years and years to come and the 9-4 season Boise just had means they are going to completely fall off the map and start having tons of losing seasons and never recover

yea that sounds like a really reasoned and intelligent position to take that is based on relevant and factual information and 19 seasons of data to support it

(07-09-2016 01:29 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:22 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:04 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  The AAC already looked west and MWC teams didn't want to join. Look at cusa and the Mac, it's where 9 of the teams in the league came from. No MWC teams wanted it after all the defections and additions that were made.

The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

At this the time of the western build, the BCS was being dismantled and that held up some of the voting on whom to invite. Then when Boise State jumped ship, there was no where to go form there. We had already invited SMU. We were at 10, UConn, Temple, UC, Memphis, Navy, ECU, USF, UCF, Houston and SMU. We had already invited Boise and SDSU, that would have given us 12. They were replaced with Tulsa and Tulane. Tulane was voted in by the Catholic 7. So please refresh my memory.

Nice try though.

I thought ECU was a football only add, until the Catholic 7 left, at which point they were then added as a full member?

Yes I wrote that read the bold portion.

(07-09-2016 01:32 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:26 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:22 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

Nice try though.

Bro, The Catholic 7 left, because of the addition of Tulane (and other non bball schools) watering down the league basketball wise.

Please check your conference history. The Catholic 7 pushed for Tulane and then claimed them as their reason for leaving.

That's what I said...they said it was because of the addition of Tulane.

(07-09-2016 01:34 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  I think most people would have more sense than to lecture about a school that has not had a losing season since 1997 as "being in decline" because they had a 9-4 season in 2015

especially when that school has been ranked 10 times in that same time period and gone 11-5 in bowl games with 2 BCS wins

all the more so coming from a fan of a program that has been ranked only two times in that same period of years, they have had 8 losing seasons and one tie season in that same time period and they had a losing season as recently as 2012 and they are 10-12-1 in their HISTORY in bowl games which means Boise has 1 more bowl win since 1997 than that program has since 1952 and since 1997 that program is 4-6 in bowls which means they PLAYED in one less bowl than Boise WON in that same time period and they have to claim a fake BCS win from a bowl that no one considers to be a BCS bowl

but yea that one "da season doh" means you are going to dominate for years and years to come and the 9-4 season Boise just had means they are going to completely fall off the map and start having tons of losing seasons and never recover

yea that sounds like a really reasoned and intelligent position to take that is based on relevant and factual information and 19 seasons of data to support it

Are you talking to me? Please say you aren't.

(07-09-2016 01:34 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:29 PM)aac4life Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:22 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:11 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  The only two schools offered by the American were SDSU and Boise State. Had Boise State stayed, SDSU would have as well.

SDSU actually attended our meeting in Dallas after Boise State got their sweetheart deal form the MWC. If we had offered any other western school to come along as a travel partner for SDSU, they'd have remained with the American. However, the money wasn't where it was purported to be and they American refused to offer another western team as none beside the Air Force fit their model.

Air Force had been offered previously in a separate offer with Army. Both decided to remain where they were. Army for lack of ability to compete and Air Force for their plains brothers, (Wyoming and Colorado St.). Air Force and Army were offered prior to WVU leaving for the Big 12 and the UofL leaving for the ACC. Just so you can get the time line strait.

You should really look some of this stuff up before you post. You come off as severely misinformed or delusional. Either isn't a good look.

So you believe the AAC never tried to get CSU, unlv, or Fresno which were reported at the time and figured Tulsa and Tulane would make more sense. Lol.

Please show me where this was written. You'll note that we already had 9 members when this occurred. Tulsa was our last add with ECU being the last full add. So that meant we had only 3 spots left and at the time, the Catholic schools were dead set on Tulane.

At this the time of the western build, the BCS was being dismantled and that held up some of the voting on whom to invite. Then when Boise State jumped ship, there was no where to go form there. We had already invited SMU. We were at 10, UConn, Temple, UC, Memphis, Navy, ECU, USF, UCF, Houston and SMU. We had already invited Boise and SDSU, that would have given us 12. They were replaced with Tulsa and Tulane. Tulane was voted in by the Catholic 7. So please refresh my memory.

Nice try though.

I thought ECU was a football only add, until the Catholic 7 left, at which point they were then added as a full member?

Yes I wrote that read the bold portion.

I saw that, but that didn't say it was a football only add at first, just that it was the last full add,