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RE: Durant to GS
(07-05-2016 12:37 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:26 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 11:06 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 01:06 PM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 11:24 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  OKC had the fortune of having Durant drafted by the Sonics

we'll see what their team is like when they lose Russ next year to FA

this may reorg the balance of the West's top teams, after GSW of course

Rumor around here is OKC will do everything they can to sign Westbrook to a long-term deal fairly soon, convincing him how much they believe in him, that it's his team to run now, etc. I'd honestly rather have him than Durant leading the way. Kind of cowardly for Durant to join GS of all teams, but that's his choice...

Westbrook isn't signing an extension. For years, the expection was for him to bolt to LA.

I wouldn't call Durant a "coward" for making a business decision. Playing in a large market with the best team can mean millions of dollars more over his career. It might suck, but it's not cowardly.

I thought he would make one more run at it. Sign a one year max deal with a player opt out. Honestly, with Oladipo and their young bigs (Kanter and Adams), I think they would have been better than GSW (they were an eyelash away from beating them last year).

That's what makes it disappointing to me. He is bailing on a team that would have had a legitimate shot at winning at all.

If it didn't work out, RW is probably gone, then KD could have gone as well knowing he gave it his best shot. If it did work out and they won it all, he could either stay and defend the title alongside RW, or leave OKC knowing he brought the city a championship.

I agree, cowardly is too strong, so I'll just leave it at lame.

Just listened to the CA podcast with Tillery, Herrington, and Edmiston and a great point was made... Kevin Durant probably talked to Russell Westbrook about RW's plans and Westbrook might have indicated he was gone as soon as he could go.

That seems likely, but that's a full year away ... all the more reason to give it a final shot. Then, he could walk away and not have faced nearly this backlash. On Mike and Mike this morning they said that the two had "hung out" in LA last week, so you know they discussed it.
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RE: Durant to GS
(07-05-2016 01:15 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:37 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:26 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 11:06 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 01:06 PM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  Rumor around here is OKC will do everything they can to sign Westbrook to a long-term deal fairly soon, convincing him how much they believe in him, that it's his team to run now, etc. I'd honestly rather have him than Durant leading the way. Kind of cowardly for Durant to join GS of all teams, but that's his choice...

Westbrook isn't signing an extension. For years, the expection was for him to bolt to LA.

I wouldn't call Durant a "coward" for making a business decision. Playing in a large market with the best team can mean millions of dollars more over his career. It might suck, but it's not cowardly.

I thought he would make one more run at it. Sign a one year max deal with a player opt out. Honestly, with Oladipo and their young bigs (Kanter and Adams), I think they would have been better than GSW (they were an eyelash away from beating them last year).

That's what makes it disappointing to me. He is bailing on a team that would have had a legitimate shot at winning at all.

If it didn't work out, RW is probably gone, then KD could have gone as well knowing he gave it his best shot. If it did work out and they won it all, he could either stay and defend the title alongside RW, or leave OKC knowing he brought the city a championship.

I agree, cowardly is too strong, so I'll just leave it at lame.

Just listened to the CA podcast with Tillery, Herrington, and Edmiston and a great point was made... Kevin Durant probably talked to Russell Westbrook about RW's plans and Westbrook might have indicated he was gone as soon as he could go.

That seems likely, but that's a full year away ... all the more reason to give it a final shot. Then, he could walk away and not have faced nearly this backlash. On Mike and Mike this morning they said that the two had "hung out" in LA last week, so you know they discussed it.

I genuinely think they realized they were not going to win with each other. There is just something missing. Westbrook is going to be a Carmelo Anthony type player. Tons of talent and skill but will never win a title...
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(07-04-2016 11:52 AM)UofMark Wrote:  Remember a dozen or so years ago when Kobe and Shaq convinced Gary Payton and Karl Malone to joint the Lakers for a supposed 'Dream Team'? They got to the finals but didn't win.

I do, those two went to the Lakers a few years past their primes or the Lakers would have killed everyone
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Who did Michael Jordan decide to team up with personally by leaving Chicago? Oh yea, some Double AA baseball players.

Bulls brass indeed gave him some good pieces.

So he went and won six NBA titles without losing any final.

MVP in all of them. I'm grateful for being able to witness Kobe, Steph and of course, LeBron.

But there isn't a like comparison to the GOAT.
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RE: Durant to GS
(07-05-2016 01:19 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 01:15 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:37 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:26 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 11:06 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  Westbrook isn't signing an extension. For years, the expection was for him to bolt to LA.

I wouldn't call Durant a "coward" for making a business decision. Playing in a large market with the best team can mean millions of dollars more over his career. It might suck, but it's not cowardly.

I thought he would make one more run at it. Sign a one year max deal with a player opt out. Honestly, with Oladipo and their young bigs (Kanter and Adams), I think they would have been better than GSW (they were an eyelash away from beating them last year).

That's what makes it disappointing to me. He is bailing on a team that would have had a legitimate shot at winning at all.

If it didn't work out, RW is probably gone, then KD could have gone as well knowing he gave it his best shot. If it did work out and they won it all, he could either stay and defend the title alongside RW, or leave OKC knowing he brought the city a championship.

I agree, cowardly is too strong, so I'll just leave it at lame.

Just listened to the CA podcast with Tillery, Herrington, and Edmiston and a great point was made... Kevin Durant probably talked to Russell Westbrook about RW's plans and Westbrook might have indicated he was gone as soon as he could go.

That seems likely, but that's a full year away ... all the more reason to give it a final shot. Then, he could walk away and not have faced nearly this backlash. On Mike and Mike this morning they said that the two had "hung out" in LA last week, so you know they discussed it.

I genuinely think they realized they were not going to win with each other. There is just something missing. Westbrook is going to be a Carmelo Anthony type player. Tons of talent and skill but will never win a title...

I really doubt that. If it hadn't been for Klay Thompson going insane in the 4th quarter, they would have beaten the Warriors, then who knows what happens in the finals. Their bigs would have done a better job of holding their own and protecting the rim than GS, I think that's pretty clear. Plus they had several people they could throw at Lebron to try to slow him down.
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(07-05-2016 12:12 AM)Tigerfan935 Wrote:  
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(07-04-2016 08:36 PM)cwise Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 08:27 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  MJ and Lebron didn't ride coat tails to championships. KD will never be amongst the elite now.

LeBron didn't ride coat tails to championships? Do you just mean he was the featured guy?

Yeah... Lebron did it first with by joining two other All-NBA talents. He didn't get it done with his team that was a winner but couldn't get over the hump.

Joke. Lebron didn't have near the team KD had in Oklahoma City. He would have never left and had multiple titles by now with Russell.

KD is a good guy. But he will never be on Lebron's level. Ever.

What?

The most successful OKC team (the one that went to the finals) had Durant in his 4th year, Westbrook in his 3rd year, Harden in his 2nd and Ibaka in his 2nd. Kendrick Perkins was their 5th leading scorer at 5 ppg.

The 12-13 team won 60 games but Westbrook was hurt in the playoffs, so that blew a huge chance. Obviously, Durant was out the bulk of the 14-15 season, that that killed those chances. Even in the 13-14 season, Westbrook missed 40+ games, which killed their chances at home court throughout the playoffs.

Plus they play in the Western Conference, which has been an absolute meat grinder of a conference the past five or six years. In the East, essentially only one or two teams have been worth a crap. The Bulls were poised, but Rose's injury messed up that team's shot during the Lebron (Miami) years.

Imagine Miami (or Cleveland) having to face the Grizz in the 2nd round, then have to play an OKC or San Antonio in the WCF, Then have to play another team as good? Pfft.

To say that the OKC team with Ibaka as your third best player and Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson, Caron, Butler, or Jeremy Lamb as your next two best players over a team who either Chris Bosh (ages 26-29) or D-Wade (age 29-32) as the 3rd best player (leaps and bounds better than Ibaka) and Ray Allen (36-37) as the 4th, with other role players equal or better better than Jackson (like Mario Chalmers) Perkins (Haslem), Lamb (Battier) etc.
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I think it is hilarious. It will be fun as hell to watch GSW.

I just frankly can't stand LeBron's game. It is so skill less. Basically, he stands 25 feet from the goal, lowers his shoulder and goes to the rim and shoots.

He either makes it and is fouled, misses it and is fouled, makes it and complains that it should have been an and-1, or misses it and complains that he was fouled.

He shot 31% from three this year and had one of the lowest mid-range jump shot % in the NBA.
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RE: Durant to GS
(07-06-2016 07:31 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 01:19 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 01:15 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:37 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 12:26 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  I thought he would make one more run at it. Sign a one year max deal with a player opt out. Honestly, with Oladipo and their young bigs (Kanter and Adams), I think they would have been better than GSW (they were an eyelash away from beating them last year).

That's what makes it disappointing to me. He is bailing on a team that would have had a legitimate shot at winning at all.

If it didn't work out, RW is probably gone, then KD could have gone as well knowing he gave it his best shot. If it did work out and they won it all, he could either stay and defend the title alongside RW, or leave OKC knowing he brought the city a championship.

I agree, cowardly is too strong, so I'll just leave it at lame.

Just listened to the CA podcast with Tillery, Herrington, and Edmiston and a great point was made... Kevin Durant probably talked to Russell Westbrook about RW's plans and Westbrook might have indicated he was gone as soon as he could go.

That seems likely, but that's a full year away ... all the more reason to give it a final shot. Then, he could walk away and not have faced nearly this backlash. On Mike and Mike this morning they said that the two had "hung out" in LA last week, so you know they discussed it.

I genuinely think they realized they were not going to win with each other. There is just something missing. Westbrook is going to be a Carmelo Anthony type player. Tons of talent and skill but will never win a title...

I really doubt that. If it hadn't been for Klay Thompson going insane in the 4th quarter, they would have beaten the Warriors, then who knows what happens in the finals. Their bigs would have done a better job of holding their own and protecting the rim than GS, I think that's pretty clear. Plus they had several people they could throw at Lebron to try to slow him down.

Klay did that when they down 3-1 in the series. The Thunder still had two more games after that to close the series. Not to mention, blowing 4th quarter leads is simply what the Thunder did all year (lead the league). It is just a personal opinion obviously, but it appeared clear to me that those two will never win because of how Westbrook plays late in close games. And because of that he will never win a title, in fact.
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