CIC changes its name to Big Ten Academic Alliance.

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...anges-name

Lol!

B1G wanting their **** to stink too!

Frankly speaking, Oklahoma is in the tank.

(06-30-2016 07:45 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Lol!

B1G wanting their **** to stink too!

Frankly speaking, Oklahoma is in the tank.

They aren't leaving...lol. They are still going to collaborate. They will be under a new title.

From another article:

"Allen said they're still trying to figure out what to call the University of Chicago, since it is not a member of the athletic conference, but the change won't impact their role in the alliance.

"They'll continue to be a partner institution, and we're working on what we'll call that," Allen said. "The relationship will continue to be very strong, they'll just have a different name."

From the one you linked:

"A spokesman for Chicago said via email that while the university "will not be a formal member going forward, we plan to continue our academic collaborations with the organization and its member institutions. We are currently working with the consortium to continue our participation in the programs related to library services, IT, language instruction and other areas that benefit our campus as well as the broader academic community."

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2...ility.html

They were a formal member. They are no longer a formal member. My thread title was accurate.

(06-30-2016 08:51 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  They were a formal member. They are no longer a formal member. My thread title was accurate.

They're an informal member? Kind of like a common-law spouse?

(06-30-2016 09:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 08:51 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  They were a formal member. They are no longer a formal member. My thread title was accurate.

They're an informal member? Kind of like a common-law spouse?

Maybe the Big Ten and Chicago are now in a "spiritual union", like the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th "marriages" on "Sister Wives".

(06-30-2016 09:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 09:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 08:51 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  They were a formal member. They are no longer a formal member. My thread title was accurate.

They're an informal member? Kind of like a common-law spouse?

Maybe the Big Ten and Chicago are now in a "spiritual union", like the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th "marriages" on "Sister Wives".

Does that make Maryland a call girl?

(06-30-2016 10:19 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 09:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 09:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 08:51 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  They were a formal member. They are no longer a formal member. My thread title was accurate.

They're an informal member? Kind of like a common-law spouse?

Maybe the Big Ten and Chicago are now in a "spiritual union", like the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th "marriages" on "Sister Wives".

Does that make Maryland a call girl?

I believe the preferred term is "escort". Also, people gotta work to eat!

Not listed among the members institutions... "The University of Chicago". It doesnt make sense to me. What do they lose by staying or gain by leaving? Were they pushed out? Does this bode well for Johns Hopkins?

http://www.btaa.org/about/member-universities

One has to wonder why the conference thought this was a good idea or had to happen. And whether it was proactive to make the change, or something was up and this is the reaction.

This is a big loss to the Big Ten's academic clout. Johns Hopkins turning down the invitation and now Chicago stepping out is nothing short of jaw-dropping. And, this WILL change some of the tunes around other institutions' faculty, who all drool over the CIC, and may help propel the realignment thing from within. Chicago was the CIC's academic chaser. Now it's like joining a band of state schools.

But, seriously...branding the academic consortium? What a stupid idea.

It doesn't mean anything because the consortium is not a whole lot more substance than a marketing gimmick in today's world. Maybe 50+ years ago the CIC (or whatever they plant to call themselves) had tangible value due to the lack of easy data flow between universities. With today's technology, it's a lot easier to be interconnected.

But again, let's be real about all this. Universities collaborate from different athletic conferences all the time. In fact, geography is a larger determinant on who collaborates vs athletic conference affiliation.

(07-01-2016 06:46 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  One has to wonder why the conference thought this was a good idea or had to happen. And whether it was proactive to make the change, or something was up and this is the reaction.

This is a big loss to the Big Ten's academic clout. Johns Hopkins turning down the invitation and now Chicago stepping out is nothing short of jaw-dropping. And, this WILL change some of the tunes around other institutions' faculty, who all drool over the CIC, and may help propel the realignment thing from within. Chicago was the CIC's academic chaser. Now it's like joining a band of state schools.

But, seriously...branding the academic consortium? What a stupid idea.

You overdramatize much? First off, the University of Chicago's real role isn't really changing, they just aren't members of the athletic conference. Hopkins has never turned down anything nor have they been formally offered anything.

(07-01-2016 07:50 AM)miko33 Wrote:  It doesn't mean anything because the consortium is not a whole lot more substance than a marketing gimmick in today's world. Maybe 50+ years ago the CIC (or whatever they plant to call themselves) had tangible value due to the lack of easy data flow between universities. With today's technology, it's a lot easier to be interconnected.

But again, let's be real about all this. Universities collaborate from different athletic conferences all the time. In fact, geography is a larger determinant on who collaborates vs athletic conference affiliation.

Correct. The other big reason two or more schools collaborate is purely on expertise. You're going for some big grant in say neurological research, you decide you need a partner and school Y on the opposite side of the country is also an expert in the field. Partnership on the grant born.

The CIC's main things are library integration, study abroad integration, collective equipment/materials purchasing, and the ability to take courses at other member institutions easily.

(07-01-2016 09:22 AM)brista21 Wrote:  You overdramatize much? First off, the University of Chicago's real role isn't really changing, they just aren't members of the athletic conference. Hopkins has never turned down anything nor have they been formally offered anything.

Go back to the original Big Ten-JHU announcement/press release(s) about Hopkins' men's lax invitation.

If you want to get into semantics about "not accepting doesn't mean rejection" or "real role isn't really changing" despite withdrawing formal membership (pretty much like parents about to split telling their kids "we're still mommy and daddy, but we won't be that together"), have fun. This is a disassociation from the Big Ten, not Big Ten schools. Yes, there is a difference.

And it isn't some "sky is falling" junk where I'm coming from, but that if you had these pockets of Big Ten-hungry faculty at certain institutions, keeping the subject of some sort of association or affiliation around the campus, I doubt this departure helps. It's not "ZOMG! Meesh is leaving now!" Perhaps it's more like "meh" in places like Charlottesville, Atlanta, or Nashville, when before it might have been "one can always dream."

CIC is nothing more than a good beauty pageant. All the contestants are already good looking so putting them in the contest doesn't mean much. School's like UVA, UNC and Texas are fine in or out of the big 10.

Maybe it's because I believe the Big Ten name needs to be changed to something that makes more sense or is more accurate, but I still think of the BigTen name as something temporary until they change it.

So it seems dumb to change the name of the CIC to anything that includes Big Ten in the name. They should have just left it at CIC until the Big Ten does their own name change later.

(07-01-2016 10:14 AM)goofus Wrote:  So it seems dumb to change the name of the CIC to anything that includes Big Ten in the name. They should have just left it at CIC until the Big Ten does their own name change later.

Again, I'd love to know why and who felt a need to brand the consortium.

Wow, a thread to bash the Big Ten over something completely unrelated to College Sports or Conference Realignment??? Didn't see that one coming.

Can someone please tell me what UC leaving the CIC -- now branded as the Big Ten -- has to do with CS & CR ???????



Bish,

The Big Ten is a very well known, national brand for academia. Researchers and professors around the country, and the world, know what it means to be doing research at "a Big Ten school". You know this too. So please don't play dumb. Thanks