Senate Democrats blocked passage of a spending bill for zika research because the conference bill did not specifically provide for funds for Planned Parenthood. (WSJ Link )

The conference bill had stripped out all non-zika research funding but the Dems, led by the ever evil Harry Reid, blocked passage in an election ploy. So now, nothing will get done. Team over country.

Democrats. Despicable.

Amazing that there isn't outrage over this from Max, Fit, et al. This was such a big issue for them a few weeks ago. Wonder what changed?

(06-29-2016 07:39 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Senate Democrats blocked passage of a spending bill for zika research because the conference bill did not specifically provide for funds for Planned Parenthood. (WSJ Link )

The conference bill had stripped out all non-zika research funding but the Dems, led by the ever evil Harry Reid, blocked passage in an election ploy. So now, nothing will get done. Team over country.

Democrats. Despicable.

Disgusting and shameful.

Typical politics, both sides do this type of thing all the time... But still shameful.

(06-29-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-29-2016 07:39 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Senate Democrats blocked passage of a spending bill for zika research because the conference bill did not specifically provide for funds for Planned Parenthood. (WSJ Link )

The conference bill had stripped out all non-zika research funding but the Dems, led by the ever evil Harry Reid, blocked passage in an election ploy. So now, nothing will get done. Team over country.

Democrats. Despicable.

Disgusting and shameful.

I know right. tying poison pills to zika legislation and the cons on here supporting the GOP doing that. you guys are disgusting and you truly have no shame.

You forgot to mention that it also loosens EPA regulations. but you also forgot this:


"They restrict funding for birth control provided by Planned Parenthood. Can you believe that?" Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said Monday. "And the Zika problem, who does it affect? Women and especially pregnant women."

(06-29-2016 07:39 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Senate Democrats blocked passage of a spending bill for zika research because the conference bill did not specifically provide for funds for Planned Parenthood. (WSJ Link )

The conference bill had stripped out all non-zika research funding but the Dems, led by the ever evil Harry Reid, blocked passage in an election ploy. So now, nothing will get done. Team over country.

Democrats. Despicable.

Bless your heart.

Will the GOPers on here finally admit that your party is playing party politics with zika?

(06-29-2016 03:41 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Typical politics, both sides do this type of thing all the time... But still shameful.

I think you're wrong. Clearly, only Democrats do this.

Eh, business as usual. Both sides do this sort of stupid stuff. Yet another reason for the rise of Trump and Bernie, etc.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statem...exclusion/

Quote:The words that limited how this money could be spent applied to the block grant program. Those dollars were "for health services provided by public health departments, hospitals, or reimbursed through public health plans."

Helen Hare, spokeswoman for the Democrats on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, told us this language cut out Profamilias, the Puerto Rican branch of Planned Parenthood.

"They are a key provider of women’s health care in Puerto Rico, and women would not be able to get the kind of care they need to protect themselves," Hare told us.

Quote:Mapping health care

Many Puerto Ricans live in rural areas and struggle to get by on very modest incomes. Martin Kramer with the Health and Human Services Department’s Health Resources and Services Administration told us that the island territory has 20 community health centers operating at 84 sites. HHS sent them $5 million in April to fight Zika.

"That money was for contraceptive services, community education and to hire new staff," Kramer said.

Thanks to the Primary Care Association of Puerto Rico, there’s a map of where those clinics are.

According to HHS, that network provides contraceptive services to more than 16,600 women each year.

The map shows the municipal boundaries that serve as Puerto Rico’s counties. We went to the HHS Data Portal and a list of clinics in the public health insurance plan to add in hospitals and public health clinics. Out of a bit under 20 municipalities not served by the community health clinics, we found about eight that lacked any facility that we could identify.

What’s important to note is that everywhere Profamilias lists a clinic -- Arecibo, Caguas, Carolina, Isabela, Moca, Ponce and San Juan -- has another type of facility that would have been eligible for additional funding to combat the spread of Zika.

Quote:Our ruling

Nelson, along with many other Democrats, said the Zika funding bill would limit access to family planning and contraceptives that would help stop the spread of the Zika virus. The legislation would have blocked the flow of money to one organization, Profamilias, the Planned Parenthood chapter in Puerto Rico.

However, the bill also provided funds that would potentially help clinics and hospitals in nearly every municipality on the island. There would be some pockets without services, but it is unclear that Profamilias would be positioned to fill those gaps. At the same time, Profamilias serves women who might be more at risk of infection because they tend to be young and poor.

The statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details. We rate this claim Half True.

So it isn't about health at all and all about increasing the funding the leftist's favorite butcher.

Kaplony, can you at least admit that Republicans do the exact same thing and that it's wrong regardless of party?

(06-30-2016 08:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Kaplony, can you at least admit that Republicans do the exact same thing and that it's wrong regardless of party?

Only if you admit that your party is holding up Zika funding not out of any concern about women's health because as the evidence shows nobody in Puerto Rico is going to be denied healthcare because of this because the healthcare will be available for them if they choose. The leftists are holding up the funding that just a few weeks ago was so important simply because their pet project isn't getting a piece of the pie.

(06-30-2016 10:34 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 08:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Kaplony, can you at least admit that Republicans do the exact same thing and that it's wrong regardless of party?

Only if you admit that your party is holding up Zika funding not out of any concern about women's health because as the evidence shows nobody in Puerto Rico is going to be denied healthcare because of this because the healthcare will be available for them if they choose. The leftists are holding up the funding that just a few weeks ago was so important simply because their pet project isn't getting a piece of the pie.

Not my party. And you don't need a caveat to answer my question.

(06-30-2016 10:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 10:34 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 08:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Kaplony, can you at least admit that Republicans do the exact same thing and that it's wrong regardless of party?

Only if you admit that your party is holding up Zika funding not out of any concern about women's health because as the evidence shows nobody in Puerto Rico is going to be denied healthcare because of this because the healthcare will be available for them if they choose. The leftists are holding up the funding that just a few weeks ago was so important simply because their pet project isn't getting a piece of the pie.

Not my party. And you don't need a caveat to answer my question.

The vats of water you tote say otherwise...

(06-29-2016 02:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Amazing that there isn't outrage over this from Max, Fit, et al. This was such a big issue for them a few weeks ago. Wonder what changed?

While I am not outragged, I am disappointed in anyone who does not vote for Zika funding. I dont want to see another baby born with that terrible disability.

(06-30-2016 04:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-29-2016 02:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Amazing that there isn't outrage over this from Max, Fit, et al. This was such a big issue for them a few weeks ago. Wonder what changed?

While I am not outragged, I am disappointed in anyone who does not vote for Zika funding. I dont want to see another baby born with that terrible disability.

You were certainly outraged when you thought it was Republicans holding things up.

As it stands now because your pals on the left would rather fund Planned Parenthood than fight Zika there will be no bill for at least another week.

(06-30-2016 04:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 04:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-29-2016 02:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Amazing that there isn't outrage over this from Max, Fit, et al. This was such a big issue for them a few weeks ago. Wonder what changed?

While I am not outragged, I am disappointed in anyone who does not vote for Zika funding. I dont want to see another baby born with that terrible disability.

You were certainly outraged when you thought it was Republicans holding things up.

As it stands now because your pals on the left would rather fund Planned Parenthood than fight Zika there will be no bill for at least another week.

No I wasnt. What politicians do doesnt outrage me. Life is too short for that silliness. I am consistant in Im at odds with anyone who does not vote for Zika funding. What say you?

(06-30-2016 04:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-29-2016 02:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Amazing that there isn't outrage over this from Max, Fit, et al. This was such a big issue for them a few weeks ago. Wonder what changed?

While I am not outragged, I am disappointed in anyone who does not vote for Zika funding. I dont want to see another baby born with that terrible disability.

I don't want to pay for it. Do my feelings matter?