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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-21-2016 06:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Plus you have the state name, that actually means something imo.

Here are the profile of 2 schools....Ohio and NIU can you guess which one is which?

FB Attendance: 13,942
BB Attendance: 1,469
Enrollment: 20,130
Endowment: $71 million

FB Attendance: 21,323
BB Attendance: 6,010
Enrollment: 40,061
Endowment: $550 million

The AAC knows the answer.....07-coffee3
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-21-2016 08:35 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 12:10 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 12:07 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 07:19 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 05:13 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  They aren't. Or if they are, they are low on the totem pole for backfill candidates...

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There's something funny about this. stay_cool thinks NIU has a shot at the AAC. He constantly goes around pimping his school.

Ohio would get the call before NIU. So maybe you should realize just how low on the list you guys are.
That's not what i said. I said Ohio is not a top AAC candidate. I believe there are many others ahead of them in the pecking order, even if we pretend NIU doesn't exist.

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Like their fans do.
Pretty much. Our fan support has been atrocious lately, won't make excuses for it either. Need to step it up or head the way of Idaho

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Meh, you set it up and I knocked it down. Just yanking your chain a little. Be hard to convince someone you carry the Chicago market with 15k fans in your stadium, though. I find it hard to believe that with your last 5-6 years resume that you don't have more of a die-hard fan base. Don't know what the deal is with certain high pop areas not supporting local teams. I mean we average like 2/3 of our city's population at games. Be twice that if half the people tailgating actually went to the damn game 03-banghead
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-21-2016 09:37 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 08:35 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 12:10 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 12:07 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 07:19 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  There's something funny about this. stay_cool thinks NIU has a shot at the AAC. He constantly goes around pimping his school.

Ohio would get the call before NIU. So maybe you should realize just how low on the list you guys are.
That's not what i said. I said Ohio is not a top AAC candidate. I believe there are many others ahead of them in the pecking order, even if we pretend NIU doesn't exist.

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Like their fans do.
Pretty much. Our fan support has been atrocious lately, won't make excuses for it either. Need to step it up or head the way of Idaho

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Meh, you set it up and I knocked it down. Just yanking your chain a little. Be hard to convince someone you carry the Chicago market with 15k fans in your stadium, though. I find it hard to believe that with your last 5-6 years resume that you don't have more of a die-hard fan base. Don't know what the deal is with certain high pop areas not supporting local teams. I mean we average like 2/3 of our city's population at games. Be twice that if half the people tailgating actually went to the damn game 03-banghead
I don't even set it up really, flyhawk just has this obsession with bashing NIU everytime i show up, even when i don't mention them. Notice my original post mentioned nothing of NIU, and he swoops in like a scorned lover to bash my alma mater. It's getting a bit weird at this point...

Back on topic, I'd love to have marshall back in the MAC. Kick out EMU and bring them in.

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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-21-2016 09:36 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 06:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Plus you have the state name, that actually means something imo.

Here are the profile of 2 schools....Ohio and NIU can you guess which one is which?

FB Attendance: 13,942
BB Attendance: 1,469
Enrollment: 20,130
Endowment: $71 million

FB Attendance: 21,323
BB Attendance: 6,010

Enrollment: 40,061
Endowment: $550 million

The AAC knows the answer.....07-coffee3

Lot of free tickets or BOGO? The money from tickets sold do not support those attendance numbers

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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
Their tickets are pretty cheap, except when they jack up prices when Marshall comes to town. They feature a package that is less than $5 a game.
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Quote:They are also in our media market. We dominate that market. All local news in Athens is supplied by Huntington stations. If you have the choice between a school with a stronger brand and dominance of the media market, I would think that you would choose that university.

Do you think that because Athens gets its local news from Huntington that Marshall somehow dominates that market more than Ohio, the largest employer in Athens County? C'mon dude. Besides, "dominating" the Huntington media market is like saying you have more friends on MySpace.

Dude, if Huntington is my space, Athens is a cassette tape. It is not even comparable. Yes, Marshall dominates that market. You do realize your market includes more than just the "metropolis" of Athens, Ohio. Right?

If you turn on the news, look at all the local ads proclaiming Marshall support. It may not dominate the actual blip in the road that is Athens, but it's Athens. Your "mall" sports a Big Lots and downtown consists of several bars beside a university. There really is no town at all. There is nothing wrong with that, but to claim you have some regional support in the Huntington-Charleston market (where you are) is disingenuous. You know it, and so does anyone that has ever been there.

Its not worth arguing with you, but good luck on your move up. Don't forget to take your meds.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
I don't want to go back to the MAC, but I do want C-USA to be stronger. In fact, I propose that after 10 years of C-USA, with the current alignment, I would kick out the two lowest ranked, football/basketball/baseball/softball non-contributors in some sort of combined ranking/ and go with the strongest 12 teams left standing. Let on field performance define who will be in C-USA for the long term. We can't afford to have permanent bottom dwellers in our conference.

But all of this would go away in a heartbeat, if:

We consistently have a team in the top 25, and compete for the Access Bowl every year, getting it every couple of years
We were a 2+ bid league in basketball for men and women
We consistently win some first and second round games in both men's and women's BB
We had consistent presence in the College World series in Baseball and Softballl
We won more P5 games in both major sports. Schedule to win...right now we don't in too many cases.
We continue to win the majority of our Bowl Games
We win a minimum 60% of our OOC games in major sports.

None of these are unachievable goals. In fact, they are somewhat modest, but performance is what counts. We do that, and we will be a happier group of schools. Sometimes, we are our own worst enemy, as a conference.
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1. Yes. I like to remind people the truth about NIU. No way you are ahead of Marshall for any type of move up. Only someone who hasn't truly looked at the numbers would think this.

2. I didn't even know Ohio was included in our market. That's how little they are mentioned. The main newspapers for the entire market/region is dominated by Marshall. Local news stations are dominated by Marshall. I've seen a few news stories from the area, but didn't realize it was because they were in our market.

3. I like Ohio and think we should play them every year in every sport. They do have extremely cheap tickets, but that's ok. They were smart to do it in order to grow the fan base. Plus you cant charge as much for a Tues/Weds game as you can Sat games.

4. I don't want to go back to the MAC because of the midweek games. If we could join the MAC, cut our own TV deal to play on Saturdays then I would be cool with it. As long as they kicked Eastern Michigan out of the conference.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
The conflicts I see are...

What the MAC was and what CUSA was vs. what the MAC is and what CUSA is.

I think Marshall is in a better power position in CUSA than it would be in a move back to the MAC. I don't think Marshall wants those early week night games on ESPN.

Selling your soul for non-traditional football nights cuts into the fan base attending games
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(06-22-2016 11:46 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Selling your soul for non-traditional football nights cuts into the fan base attending games

Not sure alienating your hardcore fanbase is worth playing for the eyeballs of the average ESPN viewer who will still think you are small time no matter what.
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(06-22-2016 08:56 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  1. Yes. I like to remind people the truth about NIU.

Here is the truth: We could revisit this in 20 years and both NIU and Ohio will still be in the MAC. They have no place to go and have no conf that would want them.
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And most likely that applies to us as well. But hopefully all of this potential here starts to become reality over the next few years and we're exactly where we want to be.
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(06-22-2016 01:41 PM)MUther Wrote:  And most likely that applies to us as well. But hopefully all of this potential here starts to become reality over the next few years and we're exactly where we want to be.

I hope so, hope realignment is put to bed for a while as well. Truth is though, we have some programs that are way more than a few years from realizing anything resembling potential, especially in basketball. A lot of it has to do with facilities and some of it has to do with very young programs. Teams that could turn the corner on any given year in my opinion is as follows: ODU, FAU, NT, UTSA. ODU gets the stadium done, albeit small, could have them fully set to explode, awesome arena. FAU and NT have the facilities in football and need success to breed a fanbase, FAU needs an arena, not sure on north texas arena state. UTSA has the support for football but the basketball arena sucks, we have seen it already, one good year brings it back to what it was in football. Teams that have a ways to go: Charlotte, FIU. Charlotte is extremely young and stadium is extremely small although its new and nice but it does have a good arena, an expansion would help them in football and hope it happens soon. FIU, shew, stadium isn't finished, terrible for broadcast and the press, same issues with arena as UTSA and FAU. So in short, there is a lot of work to be done.
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(06-22-2016 08:56 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  1. Yes. I like to remind people the truth about NIU. No way you are ahead of Marshall for any type of move up. Only someone who hasn't truly looked at the numbers would think this.

2. I didn't even know Ohio was included in our market. That's how little they are mentioned. The main newspapers for the entire market/region is dominated by Marshall. Local news stations are dominated by Marshall. I've seen a few news stories from the area, but didn't realize it was because they were in our market.

3. I like Ohio and think we should play them every year in every sport. They do have extremely cheap tickets, but that's ok. They were smart to do it in order to grow the fan base. Plus you cant charge as much for a Tues/Weds game as you can Sat games.

4. I don't want to go back to the MAC because of the midweek games. If we could join the MAC, cut our own TV deal to play on Saturdays then I would be cool with it. As long as they kicked Eastern Michigan out of the conference.
Nobody but you is talking about NIU right now. I said i believe the AAC has other schools they'd prefer to take over Ohio. To name a few, USM and ODU and possibly even Buffalo (they are an AAU school close to New York after all). That was what i was saying, not "huuurrrr duuurrrrr NIU is a lock" like you seem to be implying i am. I offer a bit of opinion to a conversation and you're immediate response is to slam NIU even when they aren't brought up (that's still weird by the way, the obsession). We get it, our fan support sucks and we are underwhelming in post season and bowl games achievements. Now that we got that out, can we go back to the original topic?

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(06-21-2016 08:31 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 06:00 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  
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(06-20-2016 06:08 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  See this is what frustrates me about our local writers publishing crap like this.

I have not heard a SINGLE Marshall fan advocate for moving back to the MAC. Are we frustrated with some of the things in CUSA? Absolutely. Would any of us like to leave CUSA for the MAC? Absolutely not.

This TV deal is good for the MAC. They do not have large fan bases and they most likely never will. So if no one is going to show up anyways, might as well play on Tues/Weds for the money and exposure. Smart move by them. We have a solid G5 fan base at Marshall. Whatever we got in TV money would be lost at the gate on Tues/Weds nights instead of Saturday night games.

EDIT: Sorry, I had to come back and add more.

Huntington and the surrounding areas have a culture that is more aligned with the south as opposed to the midwest. Most of our alumni also move south upon graduation. So playing in CUSA gives us the opportunity to play closer to our alumni as opposed to playing in the midwestern towns of the MAC.

Same reason Ohio University right up the road would never join CUSA. They definitely align more with the midwest. Most of their alumni are in those areas.

We get that too, though not as much from the reporters as short-sighted fans and willfully ignorant observers who think that ODU would have been better off staying in the CAA and FCS. There's basically no benefit to staying FCS, and all those rivalries that people miss in basketball can be taken care of in non-conference scheduling (this season alone there's at least six games against former CAA opponents). I don't think anyone, short of the faculty senate types who I'm guessing would disband the entire AD, thinks that ODU is better off in the CAA. It's kind of hard to get excited about Maine and Albany coming in when N.C. State and Marshall have already appeared.

Give it time for those fans to shut up about preferring to have stuck in FCS. That B.S. will die down with FBS level success that ODU will inevitably have. Marshall had those same folks in the late 90's and early 2000's after we moved up to FBS, even when we were beating teams like South Carolina, Clemson, and Kansas State while dominating the MAC. Every fan base has fools.

Nearly every time ODU sports/football/basketball posts something there is somone clamoring for the CAA. I miss the CAA days, but now that VCU, George Mason, and Georgia State are gone, there is no way I would want back in. We got football at a time where the CAA was one of the most dominant conferences in 1-AA (back when they called it that), but it isn't the same anymore. Sure, playing JMU in football would be nice but then what, Elon? Albany? Yeah right. I'll be fine with playing Conference USA schools in football AND basketball, there is no comparison. And we play 15 ACC school in the next 10 years, including one year that we play both UVA and Virginia Tech in the same OOC. That wouldn't happen if we were in the CAA

Hold up, I'm with you on VCU and probably Mason, but you wouldn't want to go back to the CAA because Georgia State is gone? The team in Atlanta that no one in Atlanta knows plays there? Averaging 500 in seats (not tickets sold) for basketball games when we played them there?

I personally thought adding Georgia State and Northeastern was the worst move made by the CAA, expanding a mid major league from Boston to Atlanta with teams that no one in their market cares about for the sake of getting the media market.
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Quote:They are also in our media market. We dominate that market. All local news in Athens is supplied by Huntington stations. If you have the choice between a school with a stronger brand and dominance of the media market, I would think that you would choose that university.

Do you think that because Athens gets its local news from Huntington that Marshall somehow dominates that market more than Ohio, the largest employer in Athens County? C'mon dude. Besides, "dominating" the Huntington media market is like saying you have more friends on MySpace.

Dude, if Huntington is my space, Athens is a cassette tape. It is not even comparable. Yes, Marshall dominates that market. You do realize your market includes more than just the "metropolis" of Athens, Ohio. Right?

If you turn on the news, look at all the local ads proclaiming Marshall support. It may not dominate the actual blip in the road that is Athens, but it's Athens. Your "mall" sports a Big Lots and downtown consists of several bars beside a university. There really is no town at all. There is nothing wrong with that, but to claim you have some regional support in the Huntington-Charleston market (where you are) is disingenuous. You know it, and so does anyone that has ever been there.

Its not worth arguing with you, but good luck on your move up. Don't forget to take your meds.


People on your side of the river support the Herd, people on my side of the river support the Bobcats and and all the ads and mentions on channel 13 don't make a big flying rip of a difference to either side. You're "dominating" a pile of nothingness.
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(06-22-2016 04:40 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 08:56 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  1. Yes. I like to remind people the truth about NIU. No way you are ahead of Marshall for any type of move up. Only someone who hasn't truly looked at the numbers would think this.

2. I didn't even know Ohio was included in our market. That's how little they are mentioned. The main newspapers for the entire market/region is dominated by Marshall. Local news stations are dominated by Marshall. I've seen a few news stories from the area, but didn't realize it was because they were in our market.

3. I like Ohio and think we should play them every year in every sport. They do have extremely cheap tickets, but that's ok. They were smart to do it in order to grow the fan base. Plus you cant charge as much for a Tues/Weds game as you can Sat games.

4. I don't want to go back to the MAC because of the midweek games. If we could join the MAC, cut our own TV deal to play on Saturdays then I would be cool with it. As long as they kicked Eastern Michigan out of the conference.
Nobody but you is talking about NIU right now. I said i believe the AAC has other schools they'd prefer to take over Ohio. To name a few, USM and ODU and possibly even Buffalo (they are an AAU school close to New York after all). That was what i was saying, not "huuurrrr duuurrrrr NIU is a lock" like you seem to be implying i am. I offer a bit of opinion to a conversation and you're immediate response is to slam NIU even when they aren't brought up (that's still weird by the way, the obsession). We get it, our fan support sucks and we are underwhelming in post season and bowl games achievements. Now that we got that out, can we go back to the original topic?

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If the goal is to take the school with the best football stadium you'll look at Southern Miss, Rice or Marshall.

If the goal is for the best basketball available you look at ODU, Ohio, UMass.

If the goal is academics then its Rice, Buffalo, Ohio, UMass.

If the priority is FB recruiting then its Rice, SoMiss, ODU and Ohio.

If the priority is big enrollment then UMass, Ohio and Buffalo

Buffalo doesn't have a strong recruiting state in New York. That would be a concern whether they could compete in the AAC as they've only had 2 winning seasons in 15 years of MAC play.

If you look across the 5 categories I listed above Ohio shows up the most.

Ohio 4
UMass 3
Rice 3
Buffalo 2
ODU 2
Southern Miss 2
Marshall 1

I know Athens is the smallest town in FBS but if you are packing it in on Saturdays 25,000 in FB and 10,000 in BB it doesn't really matter. Fans will travel 1, 2 even 3 hours for Bobcat football. Many season ticket holders live in Columbus an hour away.

The biggest knock again on Ohio is that Peden simply is not a P5 level stadium. For a conference like the AAC that wants to be a power conference that's not going to do it. Need at least 32,000 seats for a P5.
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(06-22-2016 12:10 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
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(06-21-2016 06:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Plus you have the state name, that actually means something imo.

Here are the profile of 2 schools....Ohio and NIU can you guess which one is which?

FB Attendance: 13,942
BB Attendance: 1,469
Enrollment: 20,130
Endowment: $71 million

FB Attendance: 21,323
BB Attendance: 6,010

Enrollment: 40,061
Endowment: $550 million

The AAC knows the answer.....07-coffee3

Lot of free tickets or BOGO? The money from tickets sold do not support those attendance numbers

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Ohio averages about 6000 students a game in FB and 1500 students a game in basketball all on free tickets.

What is more interesting looking at the number is the growth in ticket sales, contributions and licensing since 2010. There are more things in the works like naming rights for the basketball arena and football stadium that will be coming in the near future.

2011 4,072,491
2012 6,658,661
2013 7,566,119
2014 7,382,578
2015 8,263,762

Revenues for the school have doubled in 5 years while the student fees are 1 million less than it was in 2011.
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(06-22-2016 06:57 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
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(06-22-2016 08:56 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  1. Yes. I like to remind people the truth about NIU. No way you are ahead of Marshall for any type of move up. Only someone who hasn't truly looked at the numbers would think this.

2. I didn't even know Ohio was included in our market. That's how little they are mentioned. The main newspapers for the entire market/region is dominated by Marshall. Local news stations are dominated by Marshall. I've seen a few news stories from the area, but didn't realize it was because they were in our market.

3. I like Ohio and think we should play them every year in every sport. They do have extremely cheap tickets, but that's ok. They were smart to do it in order to grow the fan base. Plus you cant charge as much for a Tues/Weds game as you can Sat games.

4. I don't want to go back to the MAC because of the midweek games. If we could join the MAC, cut our own TV deal to play on Saturdays then I would be cool with it. As long as they kicked Eastern Michigan out of the conference.
Nobody but you is talking about NIU right now. I said i believe the AAC has other schools they'd prefer to take over Ohio. To name a few, USM and ODU and possibly even Buffalo (they are an AAU school close to New York after all). That was what i was saying, not "huuurrrr duuurrrrr NIU is a lock" like you seem to be implying i am. I offer a bit of opinion to a conversation and you're immediate response is to slam NIU even when they aren't brought up (that's still weird by the way, the obsession). We get it, our fan support sucks and we are underwhelming in post season and bowl games achievements. Now that we got that out, can we go back to the original topic?

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If the goal is to take the school with the best football stadium you'll look at Southern Miss, Rice or Marshall.

If the goal is for the best basketball available you look at ODU, Ohio, UMass.

If the goal is academics then its Rice, Buffalo, Ohio, UMass.

If the priority is FB recruiting then its Rice, SoMiss, ODU and Ohio.

If the priority is big enrollment then UMass, Ohio and Buffalo

Buffalo doesn't have a strong recruiting state in New York. That would be a concern whether they could compete in the AAC as they've only had 2 winning seasons in 15 years of MAC play.

If you look across the 5 categories I listed above Ohio shows up the most.

Ohio 4
UMass 3
Rice 3
Buffalo 2
ODU 2
Southern Miss 2
Marshall 1

I know Athens is the smallest town in FBS but if you are packing it in on Saturdays 25,000 in FB and 10,000 in BB it doesn't really matter. Fans will travel 1, 2 even 3 hours for Bobcat football. Many season ticket holders live in Columbus an hour away.

The biggest knock again on Ohio is that Peden simply is not a P5 level stadium. For a conference like the AAC that wants to be a power conference that's not going to do it. Need at least 32,000 seats for a P5.


Not sure how you can claim recruiting lol. You are in the same market as Marshall, and we dominate it. A school would get a lot more press in the media from playing Marshall as opposed to Ohio.

You also left off whether or not they value actual football performance.

Anyone can make an arbitrary list that suits their needs.

I like Ohio though, but to pretend you are ahead of Marshall is just silly.


EDIT: But your endowment is impressive. If Ohio ever chose to get serious about big time football then you guys have everything it takes to be the elite G5 candidate imo. You guys could be ahead of Cincy if you would have actually tried.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
Ohio can claim recruiting for the state of Ohio. Only 1 hour from Columbus and only 2 hours from Cincinnati the talent hotbeds of the state.

Ohio is 1 hour from Columbus and 90 minutes from Huntington. By no means is Ohio in Marshall's market unless you are talking about the OU-Southern branch campus across the river from Huntington. Huntington and Athens are totally different regions, though both in Appalachia.

Athens is in the Hocking Valley which at the foot of it lies Columbus and farming communities. Its a corridor known for tourism with the Hocking Hills about 20 state and national parks and historic towns. The culture is more similar to Lancaster and Delaware both in Central Ohio.

Huntington is an industrial Ohio river town which has more in common with Wheeling or Stubenville than Athens. Its very different culturally and geographically. The people are very different too as you can see from the message boards.

FWIW, this Nielsen map shows Athens in the Columbus media market.

http://seventhpoint.com/images/pdfs/2012...%20Map.pdf
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