(06-18-2016 07:41 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:10 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 05:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 02:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Ooooo now do one for who the AAC will backfill with!

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None.

B12: Houston, Cincinnati

AAC
I: SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, Tulane, Navy
II: UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, UCF

Split the dollars less ways for a higher per school share.

Can't ESPN cancel the TV contract if Houston or I think UConn leave?

It's got to be both.

Is Navy joining with their oly sports?

(06-18-2016 11:03 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:41 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:10 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 05:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 02:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Ooooo now do one for who the AAC will backfill with!

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None.

B12: Houston, Cincinnati

AAC
I: SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, Tulane, Navy
II: UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, UCF

Split the dollars less ways for a higher per school share.

Can't ESPN cancel the TV contract if Houston or I think UConn leave?

It's got to be both.

Is Navy joining with their oly sports?

Kitton doesn't deal in facts, only what is beneficial for his narrative or his school

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(06-18-2016 08:14 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 03:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  not happening

^^^
This.

The chances of the B12 expanding are <0.

Thanks Nostradamus. Give us the winning lottery numbers while you are at it.

(06-18-2016 11:07 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:03 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:41 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:10 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 05:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  None.

B12: Houston, Cincinnati

AAC
I: SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, Tulane, Navy
II: UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, UCF

Split the dollars less ways for a higher per school share.

Can't ESPN cancel the TV contract if Houston or I think UConn leave?

It's got to be both.

Is Navy joining with their oly sports?

Kitton doesn't deal in facts, only what is beneficial for his narrative or his school

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wtf are you talking about?

The AAC's contract doesn't get cancelled if one school leaves.

Regardless of how many schools leave it likely won't be touched at all with the success of the conference and only 3 years remaining on the contract.

(06-18-2016 11:20 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:07 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:03 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:41 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 07:10 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Can't ESPN cancel the TV contract if Houston or I think UConn leave?

It's got to be both.

Is Navy joining with their oly sports?

Kitton doesn't deal in facts, only what is beneficial for his narrative or his school

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wtf are you talking about?

The AAC's contract doesn't get cancelled if one school leaves.

Regardless of how many schools leave it likely won't be touched at all with the success of the conference and only 3 years remaining on the contract.

It was playful ribbing.. lighten up francis

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(06-18-2016 11:20 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  wtf are you talking about?

The AAC's contract doesn't get cancelled if one school leaves.

Regardless of how many schools leave it likely won't be touched at all with the success of the conference and only 3 years remaining on the contract.

It actually can be terminated if certain teams leave according to "The Business of College Sports" It was reduced significantly when the Catholic 7 left.....

"All of this plays a large role in the ‘old’ Big East’s recent TV contract. A clause in the contract with ESPN protects the network from any potential financial losses due to future defections, meaning the deal can be terminated if teams continue to leave. To strike a deal with the conference, ESPN had to match the offer set by NBC Sports Network. According to ESPN’s McMurphy, the contract divides the league into two groups: Group A (consisting of Connecticut, Cincinnati, Houston, and Temple) and Group B (all other members). The stipulations are as follows:

-If two group A programs leave, the deal can be terminated

-If one group A program and one group B program leaves, the deal can be terminated

-If two group B programs leave, the deal can be renegotiated "

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2013/...ic-7-bolt/

There is only one good reason for B12 to expand right now, There is safety in #s, should another P5 expand. There is no Network on the horizon, and without it there is no real money to be made.

They maxed out their income by adding the championship game, which was 1/3 to 1/2 of what conf would get adding 2 schools. I agree long term it is still on table, but it won't happen this year, and unlikely to happen for at least or 3 years.

ESPN surly does not want expansion, and FOX likely does not either.

I don't see any scenario where a group of land grant schools will choose to add a former junior college/city school or even a directional state university.

I just don't think their pride would let them.

(06-18-2016 03:54 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  ....Why not just go then with the 2 schools that have the best academics....

That would be Rice and Tulane.

(06-19-2016 07:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  There is only one good reason for B12 to expand right now, there is safety in #s, should another P5 expand....

Disagree. They also need to address their footprint problem by (1) bridging the gap toward WVU and (2) increasing population (for recruiting and market size). Furthermore, having a championship game with only 10 schools is about as stupid as the numerically-incorrect "Big 12" name.

(06-19-2016 09:22 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  I don't see any scenario where a group of land grant schools will choose to add a former junior college/city school or even a directional state university.

I just don't think their pride would let them.

This is not 1970.

(06-19-2016 11:54 AM)KUGR Wrote:  

(06-19-2016 09:30 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-19-2016 07:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  There is only one good reason for B12 to expand right now, there is safety in #s, should another P5 expand....

Disagree. They also need to address their footprint problem by (1) bridging the gap toward WVU and (2) increasing population (for recruiting and market size). Furthermore, having a championship game with only 10 schools is about as stupid as the numerically-incorrect "Big 12" name.

Because of academics and football brand problems Memphis isn't going to get an invite anyways so why does it matter to you?

Obviously, because I think you are wrong. I'll bet you were sure you would beat us in the Miami Bowl too.

(06-18-2016 07:10 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 05:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 02:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Ooooo now do one for who the AAC will backfill with!

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None.

B12: Houston, Cincinnati

AAC
I: SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, Tulane, Navy
II: UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, UCF

Split the dollars less ways for a higher per school share.

Can't ESPN cancel the TV contract if Houston or I think UConn leave?

2 out of Houston, UConn, Cincinnati or Temple.

Put the hate away and think like a conference administrator instead of a fan.

There are only two available programs that can be added to The Big 12 that don't create other problems for the conference with their addition.

Cincinnati and Memphis - Both offer too many positives for The Big 12 not to add them.
CJ

(06-19-2016 09:23 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 03:54 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  ....Why not just go then with the 2 schools that have the best academics....

That would be Rice and Tulane.

Those 2 will not get the invite at all. They do not have the sports that are competitive to be in the Big 12 to make money.

I think BYU, Colorado State, Cincinnati and Houston would be a no brainer if you're going to 14, if going to just 12, then maybe Cincinnati and Memphis. Houston though is too good of a program to pass up, maybe the Pac-12 decides to add Houston but then you have to wonder who would go with them Rice or Tulsa?

(06-19-2016 04:47 PM)Realignment Wrote:  I think BYU, Colorado State, Cincinnati and Houston would be a no brainer if you're going to 14, if going to just 12, then maybe Cincinnati and Memphis. Houston though is too good of a program to pass up, maybe the Pac-12 decides to add Houston but then you have to wonder who would go with them Rice or Tulsa?

I think Houston or Rice (but not both) would be good choices for a two or four team Big 12 expansion. I also think neither one is on the short list.

PAC-12 and/or B1G I believe will eventually be in the state of Texas and it would not surprise me (especially if Big 12 survives) if Rice and UH landed in one of those spots.

I'm sure BTN is already available in the state of Texas on most cable networks that offer an optional sports package. (and of course on satellite)

There doesn't seem to be a candidate in the state that fits the Big Ten's criteria for research and athletic dept size and is interested in sharing profits from their secondary TV rights with other conference members.


If Rice merged with BCoM, which should probably happen but for whatever reasons has not, it'd be an interesting candidate.

(06-19-2016 09:23 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 03:54 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  ....Why not just go then with the 2 schools that have the best academics....

That would be Rice and Tulane.

Yup. Academics are a hurdle, and a hurdle set at different heights for different conferences ... they are not a reason to add a school to a conference on their own, even if a school that is appealing for other reasons, like Texas A&M, would have been even more appealing to the SEC due to their AAC status and strong standing in STEM research programs.

(06-19-2016 06:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-19-2016 09:23 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 03:54 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  ....Why not just go then with the 2 schools that have the best academics....

That would be Rice and Tulane.

Yup. Academics are a hurdle, and a hurdle set at different heights for different conferences ... they are not a reason to add a school to a conference on their own, even if a school that is appealing for other reasons, like Texas A&M, would have been even more appealing to the SEC due to their AAC status and strong standing in STEM research programs.

AAC status?

I had no idea the AAC was so prestigious.