(06-18-2016 12:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 12:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance.

For what reason?

He is a liberal

...and gay, apparently.

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:22 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:18 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:04 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 10:55 AM)dcCid Wrote:  The USA still has things like 'free speech' & ' innocent until proven guilty'.

While I am shocked and depressed by what happened, the issue is more why do we allow/need assault weapons to be purchased by the general public?

Assault weapons aren't purchased by the general public.

Then exactly who are they purchased by?

From my understanding they are allowed to be purchased by anyone. (with background check if legal gun store, no check needed at many states gun shows or privet exchanges)

Individuals that have to pass the FBI background check.

not at many gun shows or private exchanges. The FBI background check is also limited.

I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance. The NRA should be able to provide for pennies since there is apparently little risk.

For the handful of accidental shootings each year? Insurance does not pay for intentional acts so it wouldn't cover things like Orlando last weekend or Chicago every weekend.

(06-18-2016 01:01 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 12:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 12:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance.

For what reason?

He is a liberal

...and gay, apparently.

The first is obvious, the second is debatable, but it's becoming obvious the DC in his user name stands for Definitely Clueless

(06-18-2016 12:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance.

For what reason?

For the reimbursement if someone is harmed by your gun. Same as car insurance.

(06-18-2016 02:19 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 01:01 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 12:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 12:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance.

For what reason?

He is a liberal

...and gay, apparently.

The first is obvious, the second is debatable, but it's becoming obvious the DC in his user name stands for Definitely Clueless

I said apparently, because today is the first time he said he was gay. At least from my perspective, that is.

(06-18-2016 02:23 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 12:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance.

For what reason?

For the reimbursement if someone is harmed by your gun. Same as car insurance.

Accidental shooting is covered by homeowners insurance. No different than having a friend ride of the back of your jet ski, you make a fast turn they fall off and break an ankle. Your friend can sue and the policy covers it.

(06-18-2016 01:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:22 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:18 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:04 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Assault weapons aren't purchased by the general public.

Then exactly who are they purchased by?

From my understanding they are allowed to be purchased by anyone. (with background check if legal gun store, no check needed at many states gun shows or privet exchanges)

Individuals that have to pass the FBI background check.

not at many gun shows or private exchanges. The FBI background check is also limited.

I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance. The NRA should be able to provide for pennies since there is apparently little risk.

For the handful of accidental shootings each year? Insurance does not pay for intentional acts so it wouldn't cover things like Orlando last weekend or Chicago every weekend.

More liberal idiocy. They are like a retro virus with the continual effort to use agencies to enforce stupid policies that Congress cannot pass constitutionally. Try another one after this one is a non-starter.

Creates a de facto national registry with anyone who purchases a policy. Not happening. Would make gun ownership more expensive to price out the law abiding. It also makes the insurance industry the regulator of firearms. More Obama social engineering via the insurance industry? No thanks.

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance. The NRA should be able to provide for pennies since there is apparently little risk.

If it were based on actuarial data, the way all insurance should be, it would be very cheap. But the temptation would be huge for any legislation to tack on all sorts of phantom administrative costs as a back-door way to subvert the Second Amendment by pricing guns off the market. I want guns because I don't trust my government not to screw me if it successfully disarmed the country. If I don't trust my government not to do that, I don't trust them to write objective and reasonable insurance regulations.

I'd favor it if we had complete assurance that premiums would be actuarially based. I don't trust government to do that.

Fair enough

(06-18-2016 12:39 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:24 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:22 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:18 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 11:04 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Assault weapons aren't purchased by the general public.

Then exactly who are they purchased by?

From my understanding they are allowed to be purchased by anyone. (with background check if legal gun store, no check needed at many states gun shows or privet exchanges)

Individuals that have to pass the FBI background check.

not at many gun shows or private exchanges. The FBI background check is also limited.

I think any gun owner should be required to purchase liability insurance. The NRA should be able to provide for pennies since there is apparently little risk.

The terrorist went to a gun store though, not a gun show. Liability insurance for a constitutional right? You know terrorists are not going to buy insurance.

it's gotten to the point it's beyond stupid arguing logic with these fellers....

they focus on 'innocents and guns' in the same vein as ignoring how they cause their own destruction....

they don't understand how money and work 'creates'...

they're just lazy due to decades of policy from both sides of the aisle.....