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NSU gets hit with some penalties. I am not arguing whether or not they were fair, but what I am arguing is what has been reported at Miami and UNC makes NSU look like choir boys (and girls).

The NCAA is a joke. They will continue to 'set examples" using FCS and non P5 schools while letting the money makers get away with murder.

http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/no...2dfd7.html

Complete BS. Makes the NCAA a bully in my opinion.

So let me get this straight, NSU turns in paperwork out of order and they get stripped of a title, 97 wins, and are placed on a 2-year probation.

UNC has years of academic fraud and other incidents and they get away with it (except for the women's basketball program)?

Complete and utter bullsh*t.

When the NCAA gives UNC the slap on the wrist we are all expecting it would be a great time for the ACLU & NAACP to take them to court and use the NSU punishment as an exemplar of unequal treatment.

UNC and Miami are the NCAA. They aren't going to sabotage the money machine.

SOUR GRAPES

And Penn States 111 wins were restored. I hope they do the same for NSU within 2 years.

The NCAA should be ashamed of itself. The organization truly has no credibility and is becoming more and more irrelevant each day due to its own actions and unfairness.

Maybe not a coincidence that UNC gets a wrist slap by the NCAA at a time when there's been discussion about the P5 schools leaving the NCAA. Don't want to give the P5 another reason to break away.

Level 2 violations are very serious. It would seem that NSU did not have any NCAA compliance people on staff during this period. In hindsight that appears to have been a huge mistake. Just a mistake? Nice spin. Even NSU admits they were wrong and self imposed penalties. My question is, how did this stay out of the media until now? I don't remember hearing anything about this. I wonder if ODU would have gotten such favorable media treatment if the situation were reversed.

Sorry, yet another reason I don't wan't to play them anymore, obviously they cheat.

(06-16-2016 04:36 PM)Sidewinder Wrote:  Maybe not a coincidence that UNC gets a wrist slap by the NCAA at a time when there's been discussion about the P5 schools leaving the NCAA. Don't want to give the P5 another reason to break away.

I'm getting to the point where I wish they would. I think they'd find the grass isnt all green without us. Try having a meaningful basketball tourney with just 65 teams too.

(06-16-2016 07:32 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  Level 2 violations are very serious. It would seem that NSU did not have any NCAA compliance people on staff during this period. In hindsight that appears to have been a huge mistake. Just a mistake? Nice spin. Even NSU admits they were wrong and self imposed penalties. My question is, how did this stay out of the media until now? I don't remember hearing anything about this. I wonder if ODU would have gotten such favorable media treatment if the situation were reversed.

Be careful in criticizing the local media...there are some posters who think our local media/newspaper can do no wrong.

Double standard you say. W&M couldn't have a feather in their logo with no other reference to native Americans, Indians or whatever. Florida State, on the other hand, .... It's all about the bucks.

(06-17-2016 01:03 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Double standard you say. W&M couldn't have a feather in their logo with no other reference to native Americans, Indians or whatever. Florida State, on the other hand, .... It's all about the bucks.

Not really. Seminole Tribe gave permission. Pretty sure that FSU has to pay the tribe, but it's the difference between one being an actual tribe and one being a vague term

(06-17-2016 03:18 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 01:03 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Double standard you say. W&M couldn't have a feather in their logo with no other reference to native Americans, Indians or whatever. Florida State, on the other hand, .... It's all about the bucks.

Not really. Seminole Tribe gave permission. Pretty sure that FSU has to pay the tribe, but it's the difference between one being an actual tribe and one being a vague term

Florida State had the casino owners in Florida approve their nickname but I am sure it had nothing to do with the casino owners wanting $$$ from Florida State fans at their casinos. As to an actual tribe name versus a general name check out the saga of North Dakota State Fighting Sioux where 4 of the 5 Sioux Nations said they were fine with the name but the NCAA still made them change it. Oh, and on the W&M issue all officially recognized Native American (or if you prefer Indigenous People) groups in Virginia said they were fine with W&M being the Tribe but the NCAA still said no. So to be clear and factual in the NCAA all that matters is not the name but the $$$. We shall soon see this again with respect to the sanctions against Norfolk State (NCAA agrees no intent to cheat and accidental) versus what the NCAA will do to UNC.

(06-17-2016 03:18 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 01:03 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Double standard you say. W&M couldn't have a feather in their logo with no other reference to native Americans, Indians or whatever. Florida State, on the other hand, .... It's all about the bucks.

Not really. Seminole Tribe gave permission. Pretty sure that FSU has to pay the tribe, but it's the difference between one being an actual tribe and one being a vague term

Just like I said, it's all about the bucks.

(06-17-2016 09:52 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 03:18 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 01:03 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Double standard you say. W&M couldn't have a feather in their logo with no other reference to native Americans, Indians or whatever. Florida State, on the other hand, .... It's all about the bucks.

Not really. Seminole Tribe gave permission. Pretty sure that FSU has to pay the tribe, but it's the difference between one being an actual tribe and one being a vague term

Just like I said, it's all about the bucks.

"but it's the difference between one being an actual tribe and one being a vague term"

Sorry but I read your last line as your conclusion because it was the last point you made. Thanks for the redirect with emphasis added and I now understand the last line was superfluous.

If money could solve all the problems how come the Redskins' name change argument won't go away?