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(08-18-2017 01:08 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:48 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

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(08-18-2017 06:58 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 12:02 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Just speaking the truth. No pessimism intended. Who is the last kid we got as a freshman that had a legitimate offer from the Big East, ACC, or SEC?

I remember that Mark West had a legitimate offer from UVA (ACC).
I remember that Arnaud Dahi had a legitimate offer from Wisconsin (Big 10).

There may be someone else that I have forgotten about but it pretty much never happens. I would imagine that it has even gotten worse since providing stipends to the players is now allowed. ODU can't match the amount of money that schools from those conferences can provide.

We just signed a kid with an SEC offer. No pessimism intended....right?

I don't understand all of the ugliness on the boards these days and can see why many people have decided to leave. I gave a couple of examples where it had happened in the past and stated that there that there may be someone else that I had forgotten. The point being made is that ODU usually loses out when Big East, ACC, and SEC schools are involved with a serious offer to the kid. It isn't about being optimistic or pessimistic. It's about what past history shows the likely result to be. Finding one guy with one offer coming in as a freshman pretty much confirms what I said.

Xavier Green had an offer from Cincy. As far as basketball P5's, that is tough to compete against.

I agree that Cincinnati is a good basketball school from a good conference, but it isn't Big East, ACC, or SEC which are the conferences that had offered the kid we just lost out on, and the circumstance that I originally commented about. I believe that Xavier will prove to be a good recruit for us and that his redshirt year has helped him to prepare.

ODU is probably more likely to see positive results competing for basketball recruits against AAC Conference schools than it is against ACC Conference schools, especially with a local guy like Xavier. The A10 and CAA Conferences are some other conferences that ODU should do well in recruiting against. I'm not against Jeff throwing ODU's name into the recruiting for kids the big conferences are going after, just hope that he is also actively recruiting some good (big) kids that he is more likely to be able to bring in so he doesn't get left scrambling at the end of the year hoping to land a transfer to fill the void.

I feel like with the exception of not getting in a freshman big, this season's recruiting class was a very good one. Perhaps in the early November signing period it will happen and we will have one or two big freshmen coming in for the 2018 - 2019 season.

Im guessing 3-4 spots next year? (would guess 3)

I would prefer (but obviously depend on player) 1 graduate transfer and 1 either freshman big or freshman transfer (like Stith/Porter). I would rather have an experienced guy help transition.

But, obviously, that is the ideal world and largely depends on who's interested.

(08-18-2017 12:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:24 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 09:27 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:58 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:35 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  I don't understand all of the ugliness on the boards these days and can see why many people have decided to leave. I gave a couple of examples where it had happened in the past and stated that there that there may be someone else that I had forgotten. The point being made is that ODU usually loses out when Big East, ACC, and SEC schools are involved with a serious offer to the kid. It isn't about being optimistic or pessimistic. It's about what past history shows the likely result to be. Finding one guy with one offer coming in as a freshman pretty much confirms what I said.

Missing out on the NCAAs for 6 straight years tends to sour a fanbase that is used to winning (Not to mention losing out in so many recent recruiting wars.)

I'm hopeful for this class. We need a few more just like it.

Every school loses out on recruiting wars, we don't lost out any more than anyone else. We actually got probably our 2 top targets in Hueit and Godwin. Got 2 ACC transfers, and a Euro big man. Why is there to be down about?

We did not get a Euro big man. He is a 6-6 SF/ undersized PF. We did not get Godwin initiallyhe committed to Richmond.

He is expected to play the 4 so I consider him a big man. Others may have different definitions.

Who cares where Godwin committed, but didn't sign at? Is it now a bad thing when we get players that committed elsewhere before?

No..but we would have never came to ODU had he gotten accepted at the UR.

(08-18-2017 02:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:24 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 09:27 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:58 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Missing out on the NCAAs for 6 straight years tends to sour a fanbase that is used to winning (Not to mention losing out in so many recent recruiting wars.)

I'm hopeful for this class. We need a few more just like it.

Every school loses out on recruiting wars, we don't lost out any more than anyone else. We actually got probably our 2 top targets in Hueit and Godwin. Got 2 ACC transfers, and a Euro big man. Why is there to be down about?

We did not get a Euro big man. He is a 6-6 SF/ undersized PF. We did not get Godwin initiallyhe committed to Richmond.

He is expected to play the 4 so I consider him a big man. Others may have different definitions.

Who cares where Godwin committed, but didn't sign at? Is it now a bad thing when we get players that committed elsewhere before?

No..but we would have never came to ODU had he gotten accepted at the UR.

And we would have had someone else in all likelihood, but where did you find out he wasn't accepted at Richmond?

(08-18-2017 10:36 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 10:16 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 09:27 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:58 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:35 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  I don't understand all of the ugliness on the boards these days and can see why many people have decided to leave. I gave a couple of examples where it had happened in the past and stated that there that there may be someone else that I had forgotten. The point being made is that ODU usually loses out when Big East, ACC, and SEC schools are involved with a serious offer to the kid. It isn't about being optimistic or pessimistic. It's about what past history shows the likely result to be. Finding one guy with one offer coming in as a freshman pretty much confirms what I said.

Missing out on the NCAAs for 6 straight years tends to sour a fanbase that is used to winning (Not to mention losing out in so many recent recruiting wars.)

I'm hopeful for this class. We need a few more just like it.

Every school loses out on recruiting wars, we don't lost out any more than anyone else. We actually got probably our 2 top targets in Hueit and Godwin. Got 2 ACC transfers, and a Euro big man. Why is there to be down about?

And you would know this How?

Because I follow college basketball recruiting. Do you honestly believe we miss out on players more than any other non blue blood school?

I honestly don't know

(08-18-2017 02:51 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 02:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:24 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 09:27 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Every school loses out on recruiting wars, we don't lost out any more than anyone else. We actually got probably our 2 top targets in Hueit and Godwin. Got 2 ACC transfers, and a Euro big man. Why is there to be down about?

We did not get a Euro big man. He is a 6-6 SF/ undersized PF. We did not get Godwin initiallyhe committed to Richmond.

He is expected to play the 4 so I consider him a big man. Others may have different definitions.

Who cares where Godwin committed, but didn't sign at? Is it now a bad thing when we get players that committed elsewhere before?

No..but we would have never came to ODU had he gotten accepted at the UR.

And we would have had someone else in all likelihood, but where did you find out he wasn't accepted at Richmond?

Good question. From what I hear, we are quite a bit harder on athletic admissions than most schools in the A10. General population... no doubt UR is more selective but for athletes? I'd be surprised unless it was an unusual circumstance.

(08-18-2017 04:34 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 02:51 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 02:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 12:24 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  We did not get a Euro big man. He is a 6-6 SF/ undersized PF. We did not get Godwin initiallyhe committed to Richmond.

He is expected to play the 4 so I consider him a big man. Others may have different definitions.

Who cares where Godwin committed, but didn't sign at? Is it now a bad thing when we get players that committed elsewhere before?

No..but we would have never came to ODU had he gotten accepted at the UR.

And we would have had someone else in all likelihood, but where did you find out he wasn't accepted at Richmond?

Good question. From what I hear, we are quite a bit harder on athletic admissions than most schools in the A10. General population... no doubt UR is more selective but for athletes? I'd be surprised unless it was an unusual circumstance.

If I am remembering correctly, Godwin reopened his search and committed to us once Hueitt committed. Thought there were posts discussing their friendship and interest in playing together.


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Ive never heard he didnt get into Richmond. It wouldnt really make sense because he de-committed from Richmond well before his senior year.

(08-19-2017 10:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Ive never heard he didnt get into Richmond. It wouldnt really make sense because he de-committed from Richmond well before his senior year.

Whatever......believe what you want. We were not his first choice. Hueitt helped bring him to ODU once things fell through at UR.

(08-19-2017 10:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Ive never heard he didnt get into Richmond. It wouldnt really make sense because he de-committed from Richmond well before his senior year.

This is what I believe. The circumstances don't really matter though, as he is a Monarch.

(08-19-2017 12:18 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 10:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Ive never heard he didnt get into Richmond. It wouldnt really make sense because he de-committed from Richmond well before his senior year.

This is what I believe. The circumstances don't really matter though, as he is a Monarch.

+1. We have a hard enough time getting freshman recruits without worrying about the path they took to get here.

(08-19-2017 11:01 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 10:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Ive never heard he didnt get into Richmond. It wouldnt really make sense because he de-committed from Richmond well before his senior year.

Whatever......believe what you want. We were not his first choice. Hueitt helped bring him to ODU once things fell through at UR.

Im not saying we were his first choice. Recruits decommit all the time so it is pointless to care. You are claiming he couldnt get into Richmond; which wouldnt make sense. Is this true or not?

You guys argue like kids, I don't even get it. Is it about who gets the last word?

Well, i think claiming a kid couldnt get into a school would be a very ****** thing to claim without knowing it to be true.

I don't disagree with you. Just would like to see these boards get back to how good they used to be and those ridiculous arguments don't help. I appreciate what you guys bring to the boards, let's get back to sports.

C David McCormack has crossed us off his final list, which includes Duke, NC State, Kansas, UCLA, OK St, Xavier. I would think off that list XU is next to go. It's an odd mix.

(08-29-2017 02:28 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  C David McCormack has crossed us off his final list, which includes Duke, NC State, Kansas, UCLA, OK St, Xavier. I would think off that list XU is next to go. It's an odd mix.

If I had to put my money on it, KU is where he ends up.

I'd rather see him there than in the ACC -- and I'm not even sure why.

Coaches are preparing to go overseas recruiting two 6'10 kids and two 6'8kids. Three are 2018 recruits and one of the 6'8 kids is a junior.

Good to know, Get 'em all as far as I'm concerned.

(08-29-2017 03:42 PM)blewbyu Wrote:  Coaches are preparing to go overseas recruiting two 6'10 kids and two 6'8kids. Three are 2018 recruits and one of the 6'8 kids is a junior.

It's hard to be successful on the recruiting front when they are going after kids being sought by schools named Duke, Kansas, and UCLA. Maybe they can get lucky and bring home another Valdas Vasilius or Gerald Lee type player from overseas.