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RE: well, look who's going to be eligible
(06-14-2016 08:58 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(06-14-2016 07:37 PM)banker Wrote:  
(06-14-2016 05:25 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  03-lmfao Must be nice... Just like Cardale Jones these guys aren't there "to play school"

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-pointless
Cool, you've met Mr. Gaines and learned all about his life goals and priorities. So what else did you find out about him?

You have to try hard to be a borderline NCAA qualifier. It's HARD to be that bad in HS. I'm not exaggerating when I say I would've easily qualified in 7th grade with flying colors because I have the scores to prove it and probably could've qualified in 4th or 5th grade.

And to respond to excitedowl the only reason Marshall gets these guys is because they take non qualifiers. It's like a glorified JUCO program and I find it pretty annoying we have to compete with kids that you can't really call students. But kudos to him for getting the grades. All these threads about the $ of college athletics miss the point of being a student athlete and so does accepting NQ.

Well, I'm assuming you went to Rice, so believing you could qualify as a 7th grader is not unreasonable. Of course I doubt that too many shootings, drug deals, and prositution busts went on outside your bedroom window. That probably made it easier to study. I'm also guessing that your mom and dad are nice folks and that you probably actually knew both of them. Heck, they probably even encouraged you to do well in school and helped you with your homework when you had trouble. I'm also guessing you weren't a stud HS athlete that the school wanted to make sure was on the field, so they didn't look the other way if you decided to skirt by on an assignment or two along the way.

It's so easy to be critical when your life is typical middle or upper class. When you see your folks get up every morning and head off to work as they drop you off at school. You get to be mentored by folks with a strong work ethic and a successful life. I'm glad a lot of college student athletes did have that experience growing up. They easily qualify for whatever school they want to go to. Marshall gets its fair share of those, way more of those than the NQs that give you heartburn.

I guess where we don't see eye to eye is that I don't have an issue taking a kid who had none of the advantages we enjoyed growing up. Kids who have been burned not only by life, but also with the public schools entrusted to educate them. My sister was a teacher at inner city Cleveland schools for a number of years. Those teachers live in survival mode. Half the class is taking or selling drugs, they focus more on making sure the kids have food to take home than a science lesson because a lot of the students only eat at school, no food in the house (if they have one). She got to watch the kids on several occasions when gun fire would erupt outside after the bell rung and the kids not involved would run back inside.

If a kid wants to come in and work, make academics a priority along with athletics, and better his lot in life, I'm all for it. They either make that commitment and get it done or they never see the field. We give them equality of opportunity, the outcome is up to them.
06-14-2016 10:59 PM
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RE: well, look who's going to be eligible
(06-14-2016 10:59 PM)banker Wrote:  
(06-14-2016 08:58 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(06-14-2016 07:37 PM)banker Wrote:  
(06-14-2016 05:25 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  03-lmfao Must be nice... Just like Cardale Jones these guys aren't there "to play school"

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-pointless
Cool, you've met Mr. Gaines and learned all about his life goals and priorities. So what else did you find out about him?

You have to try hard to be a borderline NCAA qualifier. It's HARD to be that bad in HS. I'm not exaggerating when I say I would've easily qualified in 7th grade with flying colors because I have the scores to prove it and probably could've qualified in 4th or 5th grade.

And to respond to excitedowl the only reason Marshall gets these guys is because they take non qualifiers. It's like a glorified JUCO program and I find it pretty annoying we have to compete with kids that you can't really call students. But kudos to him for getting the grades. All these threads about the $ of college athletics miss the point of being a student athlete and so does accepting NQ.

Well, I'm assuming you went to Rice, so believing you could qualify as a 7th grader is not unreasonable. Of course I doubt that too many shootings, drug deals, and prositution busts went on outside your bedroom window. That probably made it easier to study. I'm also guessing that your mom and dad are nice folks and that you probably actually knew both of them. Heck, they probably even encouraged you to do well in school and helped you with your homework when you had trouble. I'm also guessing you weren't a stud HS athlete that the school wanted to make sure was on the field, so they didn't look the other way if you decided to skirt by on an assignment or two along the way.

It's so easy to be critical when your life is typical middle or upper class. When you see your folks get up every morning and head off to work as they drop you off at school. You get to be mentored by folks with a strong work ethic and a successful life. I'm glad a lot of college student athletes did have that experience growing up. They easily qualify for whatever school they want to go to. Marshall gets its fair share of those, way more of those than the NQs that give you heartburn.

I guess where we don't see eye to eye is that I don't have an issue taking a kid who had none of the advantages we enjoyed growing up. Kids who have been burned not only by life, but also with the public schools entrusted to educate them. My sister was a teacher at inner city Cleveland schools for a number of years. Those teachers live in survival mode. Half the class is taking or selling drugs, they focus more on making sure the kids have food to take home than a science lesson because a lot of the students only eat at school, no food in the house (if they have one). She got to watch the kids on several occasions when gun fire would erupt outside after the bell rung and the kids not involved would run back inside.

If a kid wants to come in and work, make academics a priority along with athletics, and better his lot in life, I'm all for it. They either make that commitment and get it done or they never see the field. We give them equality of opportunity, the outcome is up to them.

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06-15-2016 06:24 AM
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