"After last Sunday’s column in which I interviewed Clemson president Jim Clements, messages were sent to me suggesting (and, in many cases, hoping) WVU move to the Tigers’ Atlantic Coast Conference from the Big 12. Of course, easier said than done. West Virginia would have to be desired by the league and invited. That’s never been the case or happened. But, yes, OK, the conference does make more sense geographically"

http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports-mitc...-and-hoops

I will never get back that 45 seconds of my life I wasted reading.

Ugg

Useless speculation about future possibilities. WVU is married to the B12 through 2024-25.

The article was factually incorrect on the amount of the NBC contract...for starters. A very poorly written article.

(06-14-2016 01:54 PM)TerryD Wrote:  The article was factually incorrect on the amount of the NBC contract...for starters. A very poorly written article.

But.....it was from a NEWSPAPER in West Virginia!

Does the writer have a clue? GoR?

Would wv even be invited? I thought there was bad blood between them and former big east members currently in the acc.

(06-14-2016 02:29 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Does the writer have a clue? GoR?

He mentioned the GOR.

(06-14-2016 02:32 PM)FloridaState1990 Wrote:  Would wv even be invited? I thought there was bad blood between them and former big east members currently in the acc.

NO, there is bad blood between the original ACC members and WV. The former BE schools have nothing against WV as we all left WV behind when we accepted the ACC invites.

I stopped reading after this sentence...If, that is, Notre Dame joins the ACC as a full-fledged member.....it became a comedy piece after that....

Man, I'm surprised at the number of folks who read that....

The article is a disservice to WVa's fans and boosters.

Oh, what might have been had the ACC bit the bullet back in 2011 and invited SU, Pitt, WVU, and UL to be the first to 16. ND could still have come on board as a partial. And with Maryland leaving, I suppose either UConn or Cincy to replace them.

But it wasn't meant to be.

Also wouldn't have minded if the new championship game regulation had passed the way the ACC wanted it to, for WVU to come aboard as #15 when the GORs expired either as a one-division set-up with the top 2 teams playing in the championship game...

Or a three pod set-up with 5 teams in each division:

BC
SU
Pitt
WVU
L'Ville

UVa
VT
UNC
Duke
NC State

FSU
Miami
Clemson
GT
Wake

ND full-time is fool's gold.

Cheers,
Neil

I think the best chance for a WVU to the ACC to get around the GOR's would be a Big 12/PAC 12 merger where they narrowed the league to 18 teams, maybe 20 but that would be large.

If each league shed 2 teams that would get it to 18. If the two leagues were merging I doubt WVU would want all the travel. If the Big 12 then left Baylor or KSU behind and the PAC 12 left Oregon St. & Washington St. that would be a pretty solid 18 team league. Also, the rules could state no teams in the CST start games on west coast any later than 7pm or 7:30 CST for athletic events or at least football and maybe basketball.

Then if the ACC & WVU had mutual interest it would work. Not sure that ever makes ND want to join the ACC though.

(06-14-2016 04:23 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  I think the best chance for a WVU to the ACC to get around the GOR's would be a Big 12/PAC 12 merger where they narrowed the league to 18 teams, maybe 20 but that would be large.

If each league shed 2 teams that would get it to 18. If the two leagues were merging I doubt WVU would want all the travel. If the Big 12 then left Baylor or KSU behind and the PAC 12 left Oregon St. & Washington St. that would be a pretty solid 18 team league. Also, the rules could state no teams in the CST start games on west coast any later than 7pm or 7:30 CST for athletic events or at least football and maybe basketball.

Then if the ACC & WVU had mutual interest it would work. Not sure that ever makes ND want to join the ACC though.

PAC and Big 12 are not merging. No need to and no desire to do so. Texas will not go to the SEC (they have plainly stated such for two decades - it's an academics thing) and will look to the north or east before heading west. OU is a solid get by any conference.

If Texas and OU are not in the merger mix, there is no reason for the PAC to want the leftovers (especially WVU being three time zones away!).

Assuming UT and OU are in the mix, aside from WVU -travel - who would be cut? The PAC is loyal to each other. Even USC threatened to blow up the PAC, it was only to change management/voting. They would have set up a new conference and invited the same teams they would have "left". Everyone realized USC was right and gave in.

Regardless of what ND does, the ACC, misguided or not, is holding that last spot for a national brand (i.e. Texas). ND football joining the ACC would not enhance West Virginia's changes of an ACC invite. WVs best chance might be if the ACC pushes past 16 to 18 or 20.

WV has some positives. Although they have had a couple of down years, their FB and BB are strong enough to warrant consideration. Academics are an issue, but not a deal breaker. Regional rivalries with some of the ACC schools would be great.

WV has a lot of negatives. To the (mostly) wine-and-cheese crowd of the ACC, the couch burning mentality of WV is a deal breaker. None of the fans I have heard on here have had a positive experience going to a game at WV. I have not heard any of the oBE schools promoting WV. That speaks volumes.

WV does have some history with the original ACC schools. I don't know all the details but it has been repeatedly discussed here. However, that is ancient history. If the ACC past VTs history they can get past WVs history.

(06-14-2016 03:40 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The article is a disservice to WVa's fans and boosters.

That's what I thought and the real reason I linked it. Anything that I can do as a further disservice to WVU fans and boosters, I'm all for it....

(06-14-2016 06:16 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 04:23 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  I think the best chance for a WVU to the ACC to get around the GOR's would be a Big 12/PAC 12 merger where they narrowed the league to 18 teams, maybe 20 but that would be large.

If each league shed 2 teams that would get it to 18. If the two leagues were merging I doubt WVU would want all the travel. If the Big 12 then left Baylor or KSU behind and the PAC 12 left Oregon St. & Washington St. that would be a pretty solid 18 team league. Also, the rules could state no teams in the CST start games on west coast any later than 7pm or 7:30 CST for athletic events or at least football and maybe basketball.

Then if the ACC & WVU had mutual interest it would work. Not sure that ever makes ND want to join the ACC though.

PAC and Big 12 are not merging. No need to and no desire to do so. Texas will not go to the SEC (they have plainly stated such for two decades - it's an academics thing) and will look to the north or east before heading west. OU is a solid get by any conference.

If Texas and OU are not in the merger mix, there is no reason for the PAC to want the leftovers (especially WVU being three time zones away!).

Assuming UT and OU are in the mix, aside from WVU -travel - who would be cut? The PAC is loyal to each other. Even USC threatened to blow up the PAC, it was only to change management/voting. They would have set up a new conference and invited the same teams they would have "left". Everyone realized USC was right and gave in.

I was referring to UT & OU being in the merger. On the Big 12 side WVU due to geography and probably Baylor next. On the PAC 12 Wash. St. & Oregon St. with probably Utah next.

Why would Texas & OU want to axe more Big 12 schools to keep those 3 from the PAC?

(06-14-2016 03:40 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The article is a disservice to WVa's fans and boosters.

I'll second that.....It's a sad day to be a Mountaineer...