Looks like the ACC fans freaking out about playing 9 games conference schedules can calm down for the time being.

http://georgiatech.blog.ajc.com/2016/06/...-schedule/

I had forgot Pitt is now in the same boat as GT, FSU, Clemson, and Louisville.

They now are tied into some long-term non-conference games.

I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

Wake and UNC solved their issue with 8 games by agreeing to play non-conference. So I'm fine with whatever the ACC decides to do. I believe NC State and Duke should follow our example.

It is a shame that GT-FSU and VT- Clemson doesn't happen more often.

Leave it at 8 ACC games but make everyone play TWO P5s instead of just one. If they can't find a true OOC team to play, let them play an ACC team as OOC. Clemson and VT won't have to do ANYTHING since they are both set with 2 P5s/year (I think several other teams are as well). Problem solved.

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

I wouldn't say the topic is closed, but schools like FSU, GT, Clemson, Louisville and now Pitt are in a unique situation.

All have shown a willingness to schedule power 5 teams outside their non-rivals.

Then you throw in the Notre Dame requirement, and it can be tough for scheduling

Not as impossible as some have made it out to be, but still not easy.

What ESPN should do is show more of the these non-conf games that are played at the ACC home on the ACC Network.

(which goes along with Hokiemark's suggestion) Several additional home non-conf can be on the ACC Network

Just 2 years ago Georgia Tech vs Georgia was on the SEC Network as a top 20 matchup with fringe playoff implications.

If you're talking about Notre Dame, their road games can be on the ACC Network at least 1-2 a year.

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

unfortunately ...
can't make 'em ..
but ya can entice 'em ...

MONEY TALKS, BULLSH_T WALKS

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

...when it will no doubt increase to 6 games.

(06-13-2016 11:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

...when it will no doubt increase to 6 games.

Or a whole new world exists in college football after that.....

(06-13-2016 11:43 AM)green Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

unfortunately ...
can't make 'em ..
but ya can entice 'em ...

MONEY TALKS, BULLSH_T WALKS

Entice 'em with what? (that they don't already have...)

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(06-13-2016 12:38 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:43 AM)green Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

unfortunately ...
can't make 'em ..
but ya can entice 'em ...

MONEY TALKS, BULLSH_T WALKS

Entice 'em with what? (that they don't already have...)

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http://csnbbs.com/thread-781295-page-6.html

Just by adding the SEC Network, which has been valued at $4.77 billion, the payout increased by nearly $11 million per school.
-- Austin American-Statesman May 26th, 2016

GOTTA KEEP UP WITH THE JONESES

Maybe someone has already mentioned this but a 9th game (1 beyond the 8 for now) for 14 teams would mean only 7 extra games total - "higher level" match ups would be broadcast on ABC/ESPN but I guess the point is that most of the 7 extra games would wind up on an ACC network as inventory.

(06-13-2016 01:12 PM)atom58again Wrote:  Maybe someone has already mentioned this but a 9th game (1 beyond the 8 for now) for 14 teams would mean only 7 extra games total - "higher level" match ups would be broadcast on ABC/ESPN but I guess the point is that most of the 7 extra games would wind up on an ACC network as inventory.

TRUE, but if you require each team to play TWO P5 OOC games instead of just the one, you get the same 7 extra games per year - but with at least the possibility of the ACC going 7-0 in those games (if they are conference games, you know for sure that one ACC team WILL lose).

as a clemson fan, my preference would be to stay at 8 games and have our 2nd P5 OOC game (other than the gamechickens) be one of the following:
1. an SEC team, preferably Auburn or UGag
2. ND (played every 3 years)
3. VT, Miami, UNC (if they stay respectable), UVa (if they improve to 7-5 or better under Bronco).

(06-13-2016 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:12 PM)atom58again Wrote:  Maybe someone has already mentioned this but a 9th game (1 beyond the 8 for now) for 14 teams would mean only 7 extra games total - "higher level" match ups would be broadcast on ABC/ESPN but I guess the point is that most of the 7 extra games would wind up on an ACC network as inventory.

TRUE, but if you require each team to play TWO P5 OOC games instead of just the one, you get the same 7 extra games per year - but with at least the possibility of the ACC going 7-0 in those games (if they are conference games, you know for sure that one ACC team WILL lose).

as a clemson fan, my preference would be to stay at 8 games and have our 2nd P5 OOC game (other than the gamechickens) be one of the following:
1. an SEC team, preferably Auburn or UGag
2. ND (played every 3 years)
3. VT, Miami, UNC (if they stay respectable), UVa (if they improve to 7-5 or better under Bronco).

(06-13-2016 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:12 PM)atom58again Wrote:  Maybe someone has already mentioned this but a 9th game (1 beyond the 8 for now) for 14 teams would mean only 7 extra games total - "higher level" match ups would be broadcast on ABC/ESPN but I guess the point is that most of the 7 extra games would wind up on an ACC network as inventory.

TRUE, but if you require each team to play TWO P5 OOC games instead of just the one, you get the same 7 extra games per year - but with at least the possibility of the ACC going 7-0 in those games (if they are conference games, you know for sure that one ACC team WILL lose).

(06-13-2016 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  if you require each team to play TWO P5 OOC games instead of just the one, you get the same 7 extra games per year - but with at least the possibility of the ACC going 7-0 in those games (if they are conference games, you know for sure that one ACC team WILL lose).

The TWO P5 OOC suggestion is a point I tried to make in one of the other threads. If more OOC home and home games with P5 teams can be added, that increases the number of television friendly games that ESPN has access to. Additionally, if those games are with SEC schools, ESPN gets both games of the series. Also, if they are with other conferences, such as PAC-12 or Big 12, ESPN has at least a certain number of games contracted with those conferences. So, it would be possible that they may have both games in those series as well, but at a minimum, they would have the ACC home game. I think this is a more fan and TV friendly solution to increasing inventory. While some of these games may not end up on an ACC Network directly and instead would be on ABC/ESPN/2/U/SEC, they would probably shuffle things around enough that it would free up another good game for the ACC Network.

(06-13-2016 02:07 PM)Schema Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  if you require each team to play TWO P5 OOC games instead of just the one, you get the same 7 extra games per year - but with at least the possibility of the ACC going 7-0 in those games (if they are conference games, you know for sure that one ACC team WILL lose).

The TWO P5 OOC suggestion is a point I tried to make in one of the other threads. If more OOC home and home games with P5 teams can be added, that increases the number of television friendly games that ESPN has access to. Additionally, if those games are with SEC schools, ESPN gets both games of the series. Also, if they are with other conferences, such as PAC-12 or Big 12, ESPN has at least a certain number of games contracted with those conferences. So, it would be possible that they may have both games in those series as well, but at a minimum, they would have the ACC home game. I think this is a more fan and TV friendly solution to increasing inventory. While some of these games may not end up on an ACC Network directly and instead would be on ABC/ESPN/2/U/SEC, they would probably shuffle things around enough that it would free up another good game for the ACC Network.

The ACC only gets TV revenues for the home games its teams play. That means that non-conference home and homes produce half the TV revenues for the ACC of conference home and homes. Don't confuse what makes ESPN richer with what makes the ACC richer.

(06-13-2016 12:50 PM)green Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 12:38 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:43 AM)green Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:29 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm not so sure. All depends on the network dynamic.
I say make ND do more.

The ND/ACC contract says only five games a year through 2027. Status quo until then.

unfortunately ...
can't make 'em ..
but ya can entice 'em ...

MONEY TALKS, BULLSH_T WALKS

Entice 'em with what? (that they don't already have...)

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http://csnbbs.com/thread-781295-page-6.html

Just by adding the SEC Network, which has been valued at $4.77 billion, the payout increased by nearly $11 million per school.
-- Austin American-Statesman May 26th, 2016

GOTTA KEEP UP WITH THE JONESES

Not enough for ND to give up independence, sorry.

(Not to mention its a new day for conference network extortion...diminishing returns and ESPN is gun shy)

NOT EVEN A CIGAR

(06-13-2016 02:24 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 02:07 PM)Schema Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  if you require each team to play TWO P5 OOC games instead of just the one, you get the same 7 extra games per year - but with at least the possibility of the ACC going 7-0 in those games (if they are conference games, you know for sure that one ACC team WILL lose).

The TWO P5 OOC suggestion is a point I tried to make in one of the other threads. If more OOC home and home games with P5 teams can be added, that increases the number of television friendly games that ESPN has access to. Additionally, if those games are with SEC schools, ESPN gets both games of the series. Also, if they are with other conferences, such as PAC-12 or Big 12, ESPN has at least a certain number of games contracted with those conferences. So, it would be possible that they may have both games in those series as well, but at a minimum, they would have the ACC home game. I think this is a more fan and TV friendly solution to increasing inventory. While some of these games may not end up on an ACC Network directly and instead would be on ABC/ESPN/2/U/SEC, they would probably shuffle things around enough that it would free up another good game for the ACC Network.

The ACC only gets TV revenues for the home games its teams play. That means that non-conference home and homes produce half the TV revenues for the ACC of conference home and homes. Don't confuse what makes ESPN richer with what makes the ACC richer.

Disagree.
14 teams each with an OOC game split evely home and away means 7 home games per year as ACC property.
14 teams playing within conference is still only 7 games per year of ACC property.

First Bobinski said it hasn't been talked about since 2014 8-6 vote.

To keep what Teel reported in perspective...he said that the 9 game schedule will be tied to an ACC Network at ESPNs request.

What does thishe all mean? It means to me is that if and when (soonest 2018-19...maybe 2019-20) the ACC Network is launched there will be a 9 game schedule.

To be fair to Mike the GT AD, he did not deny an ACC Network in the future or deny an 9 game schedule request by ESPNC for an ACC Network...but the truth is we are at a 8 game schedule for 2016-17 and 201-18..As ESPN has requested a delay in the channel...So there will not be an ACC network before the 2018-19 College seasons..

So back to the 9 game question....what should have been asked of the AD is this. "Sir, do you know anything about ESPN requesting a 9 game FB conference schedule for the launch of an ACC network?" OR "Sir, is the increase in conf games within Basketball or football tied to the launch of an ACC Network?"

But that is not what was asked...Who interviewed that AD...Should be fired!!