(06-13-2016 10:39 AM)muffinman Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 09:34 AM)ReynaFan Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 08:15 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 07:57 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:52 AM)hsvtiger Wrote:  Especially since this guy had been investigated twice previously for terrorist-related concerns. Then, he was still able to go and legally purchase an automatic rifle without any alarms going off.

The last I heard, he didn't purchase an automatic rifle. AR-15 is a semi-automatic. One pull of the trigger, one round fired. No different than a standard hunting rifle with a magazine.

But your point it true. What does it say about our culture when in the name of political correctness, politicians prevent the FBI from really putting the heat on this guy and those with similar behaviors? Sounds very familiar to the departmental politics of Justice department handling of the 9/11 'pilots'. Anything to get elected, and even more to maintain power. Past time for big changes in DC, and I'm not talking about anyone in particular. I'm talking about the culture in DC. Our government is treating this cultural issue like many addicts treat their addictions, they fail to acknowledge a problem exists. So they find a issue they know will deflect and divide, gun control. This 'pivots' the issue which removes the responsibility from them and lets them blame people who have never committed a crime.

I fear more of these 'episodes' are about to occur, and this one in Orlando will be probably be considered 'small' and probably will not involve 'guns'. But it certainly isn't small to the families\friends of the victims.

Thanks for the clarification as to semi-vs-full auto. That's missed much of the time.

As I understand it, converting these to full automatic is not very complicated. Anybody know how true?

Converting them is not hard at all. But buying the parts you need to convert it over to automatic is impossible to acquire without all the proper permits/registrations/ATF paperwork.

Now, I guess you could find parts through the black market, but my guess, is that its even hard to find there as well.

And no gunsmith that I know is going to risk a stretch in the federal pen to do the work.

Here...Where most of the police are good ole fellers, they would and they do.

I lives in a hotbed of angry white fellers and tons of pot-growing Hmongs.

The Feds came to call on voting day to make sure that the newly registered tons of Hmongs were not harassed at the polls.

Houston we got trouble everywhere.

(06-12-2016 09:42 AM)AtlantaTiger Wrote:  Our thoughts and prayers are with you Central Florida.

Instead of prayers it's important to donate blood or offer actual support for anyone whom you may have had a loved one or friend involved in this heinous event.

(06-13-2016 02:01 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 09:42 AM)AtlantaTiger Wrote:  Our thoughts and prayers are with you Central Florida.

Instead of prayers it's important to donate blood or offer actual support for anyone whom you may have had a loved one or friend involved in this heinous event.

Prayers much more important.

(06-13-2016 08:15 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 07:57 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:52 AM)hsvtiger Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:08 AM)holyterror Wrote:  infuriating.

Especially since this guy had been investigated twice previously for terrorist-related concerns. Then, he was still able to go and legally purchase an automatic rifle without any alarms going off.

The last I heard, he didn't purchase an automatic rifle. AR-15 is a semi-automatic. One pull of the trigger, one round fired. No different than a standard hunting rifle with a magazine.

But your point it true. What does it say about our culture when in the name of political correctness, politicians prevent the FBI from really putting the heat on this guy and those with similar behaviors? Sounds very familiar to the departmental politics of Justice department handling of the 9/11 'pilots'. Anything to get elected, and even more to maintain power. Past time for big changes in DC, and I'm not talking about anyone in particular. I'm talking about the culture in DC. Our government is treating this cultural issue like many addicts treat their addictions, they fail to acknowledge a problem exists. So they find a issue they know will deflect and divide, gun control. This 'pivots' the issue which removes the responsibility from them and lets them blame people who have never committed a crime.

I fear more of these 'episodes' are about to occur, and this one in Orlando will be probably be considered 'small' and probably will not involve 'guns'. But it certainly isn't small to the families\friends of the victims.

Thanks for the clarification as to semi-vs-full auto. That's missed much of the time.

Oh yes missed, and we can be certain it's missed on purpose.

(06-13-2016 09:34 AM)ReynaFan Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 08:15 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 07:57 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:52 AM)hsvtiger Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:08 AM)holyterror Wrote:  infuriating.

Especially since this guy had been investigated twice previously for terrorist-related concerns. Then, he was still able to go and legally purchase an automatic rifle without any alarms going off.

The last I heard, he didn't purchase an automatic rifle. AR-15 is a semi-automatic. One pull of the trigger, one round fired. No different than a standard hunting rifle with a magazine.

But your point it true. What does it say about our culture when in the name of political correctness, politicians prevent the FBI from really putting the heat on this guy and those with similar behaviors? Sounds very familiar to the departmental politics of Justice department handling of the 9/11 'pilots'. Anything to get elected, and even more to maintain power. Past time for big changes in DC, and I'm not talking about anyone in particular. I'm talking about the culture in DC. Our government is treating this cultural issue like many addicts treat their addictions, they fail to acknowledge a problem exists. So they find a issue they know will deflect and divide, gun control. This 'pivots' the issue which removes the responsibility from them and lets them blame people who have never committed a crime.

I fear more of these 'episodes' are about to occur, and this one in Orlando will be probably be considered 'small' and probably will not involve 'guns'. But it certainly isn't small to the families\friends of the victims.

Thanks for the clarification as to semi-vs-full auto. That's missed much of the time.

As I understand it, converting these to full automatic is not very complicated. Anybody know how true?

Yeah, if you're a gunsmith with a machine shop. However it probably would be easier to get one when terrorist are moving them across our porous southern border. But the sad truth is we waste time and energy blaming the lack of gun control than the religious nuts that are committing these evil acts.