Isn't there a season coming up without an FBS team lined up thus far? Why not shoot for a top-10 caliber FCS home/home to replace the FBS game that season? Do we think that's just off the table due to our budget needing the payday?

(01-24-2019 08:35 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:58 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 12:02 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I absolutely hate our scheduling of OOC games. We play an FBS school and then teams that can’t hold us under 70 points. I hear that is because the CAA is so tough. Really? 37-0, 63-10, 50-0... did I miss any other CAA blow outs from this past season? By the way, JMU had three competitive conference games and lost to Colgate so please don’t try to convince me how strong the CAA was last season.

I want to see JMU play the So Con and MVC in back to back games. Let’s entertain the fans with some good football. I am sincerely thinking about dropping my season tickets in the club level this year. The cost to attend games against crappy teams just isn’t worth it. I can play golf on a beautiful fall day and be far more entertained than watching JMU beat Morehead St. by 80.

JMU had 4-5 competitive CAA games (and lost 2 of them):
L Elon 27-24
W SBU 13-10
L @ UNH 35-24
W URI 48-31 (It was 41-31 until late 4th).

Then you either get rid of the I-A game or don't have 6 home games. No thanks.

UNH was not a close game. It was our most humiliating loss of the season. You are stretching the truth to make your point. I might give you URI but was anyone in the stands really concerned we would give up the lead? A 17 point win is barely a competitive game but okay.

We played 11 regular season games and even if I give you URI as a “close” game, that is still six lopsided wins. Is that entertaining football for you? If it is, then you and I want different things.

I am fine if we stay FCS but let’s play a good out of conference schedule.

At 1st your metric was a "competitive" game, and then you move the goal post to "close" game..Make up you're mind..

An 11 point loss when you outgain the opponent 486-315 most people would call "competitive"

(01-24-2019 08:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So looking back this century, (off the top of my head, someone chime in if not correct) 12 game seasons allowed were/are 2002, 2003, 2008 (JMU only played 11), 2013, 2014, 2019, 2024, 2025. That would make the pattern a 12 games (allowed) season, followed by four 11 game seasons, followed by two 12 game seasons, followed by four 11 game seasons, repeat. Basically 3 of every 11 seasons. Going by what Potomac has on the OP:

2020 (11 games):
-??? (probably a yet to be named cupcake)
9/12 - Chattanooga (SoCon)
11/21 - at North Carolina (ACC)

Last week NDSU/NC A&T just announced a one and done @ NDSU for 9/19. Why couldn't JMU have gotten NC A&T for a one and done? 200+ miles/about 3 1/2 hrs from JMU..instead they are flying 1400 miles to Fargo..I didn't think NDSU had more $$ to throw around..

2021 (11 games):
9/4 - Morehead State (PFL)
-???
-???

2022 (11 games):
-???
9/10 - Norfolk State (MEAC)
11/5 - at Louisville (ACC)

2023 (11 games): No OOC yet scheduled.

2024 (12 games allowed): No OOC yet scheduled.

2025 (12 games allowed):
-???
-???
-???
-11/22: at North Carolina (ACC)

The 2020 schedule is reasonable. Follow that footprint and it is likely the best you can do with an 11 game schedule. We should not play two cupcakes out of conference in any season including a 12 game season.

Then obviously you're fine with either 5 home games every other season, including 5 home/7 away in a 12 game season, or no I-A game every other season.

I'd rather be like NDSU. Minimum 6 home games every season, sometimes 7, deep playoff runs every season, always at home. Different strokes for different folks.

(01-25-2019 07:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So looking back this century, (off the top of my head, someone chime in if not correct) 12 game seasons allowed were/are 2002, 2003, 2008 (JMU only played 11), 2013, 2014, 2019, 2024, 2025. That would make the pattern a 12 games (allowed) season, followed by four 11 game seasons, followed by two 12 game seasons, followed by four 11 game seasons, repeat. Basically 3 of every 11 seasons. Going by what Potomac has on the OP:

2020 (11 games):
-??? (probably a yet to be named cupcake)
9/12 - Chattanooga (SoCon)
11/21 - at North Carolina (ACC)

Last week NDSU/NC A&T just announced a one and done @ NDSU for 9/19. Why couldn't JMU have gotten NC A&T for a one and done? 200+ miles/about 3 1/2 hrs from JMU..instead they are flying 1400 miles to Fargo..I didn't think NDSU had more $$ to throw around..

2021 (11 games):
9/4 - Morehead State (PFL)
-???
-???

2022 (11 games):
-???
9/10 - Norfolk State (MEAC)
11/5 - at Louisville (ACC)

2023 (11 games): No OOC yet scheduled.

2024 (12 games allowed): No OOC yet scheduled.

2025 (12 games allowed):
-???
-???
-???
-11/22: at North Carolina (ACC)

The 2020 schedule is reasonable. Follow that footprint and it is likely the best you can do with an 11 game schedule. We should not play two cupcakes out of conference in any season including a 12 game season.

Then obviously you're fine with either 5 home games every other season, including 5 home/7 away in a 12 game season, or no I-A game every other season.

I'd rather be like NDSU. Minimum 6 home games every season, sometimes 7, deep playoff runs every season, always at home. Different strokes for different folks.

Regarding the bold, we've experienced this already, 2014. Another rotten play.

It would be exciting for our fans to see competitive games against ODU and Marshall and App State.

That would be fun.

(01-25-2019 04:05 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:24 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:06 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 02:46 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  There are plenty of easy wins and opportunities for back ups to play in CAA games. The cost of a club level seat this season will be $1450 and that doesn’t include parking. $218 for section 109. While I can justify $218, I can’t justify $1450 to watch bad teams.

Our current scheduling is not netting home playoff games. We traveled two of the last three years. We had to go undefeated to stay at home in 2017. The odds of getting the #1 or #2 seed are very low. Why schedule crappy teams in hopes of landing a #1 or 2 seed? There are enough blow out wins in the conference now that it isn’t necessary to schedule off weeks.

Alabama or any P5 program is a horrible comparison. They get P5 home games in conference to look forward to often 7 or more home games in total.

Two cupcakes every year OOC along with the CAA cupcakes and there are some, is too many.

JMU traveled 2 of the last 3 years? Because maybe (the year JMU won the NC) we traveled to the higher seeded NDSU?

Then we won out at home until the NC game.

And then we have last year...and lost to Elon at home and a weaker than usual UNH on the road, and we didn’t deserve a seed because <surprise!>JMU lost to two CAA “cupcakes”.

Honestly, the logic of your argument is baffling.

As for the rising cost of tickets & the Club level, weren’t you complaining JMU runs a deficit because you don’t think student fees count as income? Seriously, you can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to eat prime rib when you’re paying McRibs prices.

Support JMU athletics at the level you feel comfortable. All-in-all, it’s still a great bargain for the product, and at the end of the day you’re supposedly in attendance because you support JMU, win, lose or draw.

I find the logic of your argument baffling too. I also find that you have an amazing bravado on these boards. Would you say something like the above to someone’s face while twirling your finger around your head? What if the guy you said it to was twice your size?

It takes a coward to insult people on a message board and you sir are the leader of the pack when it comes to flinging insults at people you disagree with.

You betcha I’d say it to your face. If you think being shown that your illogical comments are “insults” maybe you should stop and give a second thought to what you post. Or grow a pair and thicker skin.

I note that nowhere in your response did you deny the fact you’re current bitching about higher prices for games you find unattractive and your notion that student fees are not income and that JMU needs to raise $$$ from non-student sources are convoluted at best.

Again, I am not the person that said student fees are not income. I also have no idea what you are referencing about me making a statement about JMU Raising $$$ from non-student sources. I have not posted on these subjects.

I think you have a blind spot on how over the top rude your posts are. You come across as someone who thinks they are the smartest person in the room. You can present your opinion without insulting someone elses opinion. You are older than most of the posters on here and a teacher for goodness sakes. I would expect you of all people to understand civil discourse and to set a better example for the young posters to follow.

(01-25-2019 02:26 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 12:10 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:35 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:58 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 12:02 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I absolutely hate our scheduling of OOC games. We play an FBS school and then teams that can’t hold us under 70 points. I hear that is because the CAA is so tough. Really? 37-0, 63-10, 50-0... did I miss any other CAA blow outs from this past season? By the way, JMU had three competitive conference games and lost to Colgate so please don’t try to convince me how strong the CAA was last season.

I want to see JMU play the So Con and MVC in back to back games. Let’s entertain the fans with some good football. I am sincerely thinking about dropping my season tickets in the club level this year. The cost to attend games against crappy teams just isn’t worth it. I can play golf on a beautiful fall day and be far more entertained than watching JMU beat Morehead St. by 80.

JMU had 4-5 competitive CAA games (and lost 2 of them):
L Elon 27-24
W SBU 13-10
L @ UNH 35-24
W URI 48-31 (It was 41-31 until late 4th).

Then you either get rid of the I-A game or don't have 6 home games. No thanks.

UNH was not a close game. It was our most humiliating loss of the season. You are stretching the truth to make your point. I might give you URI but was anyone in the stands really concerned we would give up the lead? A 17 point win is barely a competitive game but okay.

We played 11 regular season games and even if I give you URI as a “close” game, that is still six lopsided wins. Is that entertaining football for you? If it is, then you and I want different things.

I am fine if we stay FCS but let’s play a good out of conference schedule.

Ironically, this next season will have the best OOC schedule in roughly a decade and people will still complain.

JMU had two losses at one point in October and the selection committee had them ranked 2.

There is nothing wrong with substituting a Lehigh, or Chattanooga for a Norfolk St or Morgan State. You can have very winnable FCS games without going to the bottom of FCS programs. If we lose to Lehigh or Chatt, we shouldn't be seeded.

That said I would like to occasionally play a top 10-15 OOC opponent. My favorite non playoff home game of all time was App State. So much electricity.

If we played a home and home with NDSU our home game would be electric and the biggest home game since App State. Similar to RU on game day. Imagine a potential early season game day.....

This is exactly how I feel as a ticket buyer. The App game was one for the ages. We also played Georgia Southern over the years at Bridgeforth too.

(01-25-2019 04:12 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I loved traveling to NSU. If the storm hadn't canceled the game mid-2nd quarter, I would have loved the whole game.

You loved going because of their band not their football team. I remember your posts around that game.

(01-25-2019 04:14 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Isn't there a season coming up without an FBS team lined up thus far? Why not shoot for a top-10 caliber FCS home/home to replace the FBS game that season? Do we think that's just off the table due to our budget needing the payday?

I like this idea too. I would also like to see three good FCS games scheduled and only one cupcake.

(01-25-2019 07:10 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:35 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:58 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 12:02 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I absolutely hate our scheduling of OOC games. We play an FBS school and then teams that can’t hold us under 70 points. I hear that is because the CAA is so tough. Really? 37-0, 63-10, 50-0... did I miss any other CAA blow outs from this past season? By the way, JMU had three competitive conference games and lost to Colgate so please don’t try to convince me how strong the CAA was last season.

I want to see JMU play the So Con and MVC in back to back games. Let’s entertain the fans with some good football. I am sincerely thinking about dropping my season tickets in the club level this year. The cost to attend games against crappy teams just isn’t worth it. I can play golf on a beautiful fall day and be far more entertained than watching JMU beat Morehead St. by 80.

JMU had 4-5 competitive CAA games (and lost 2 of them):
L Elon 27-24
W SBU 13-10
L @ UNH 35-24
W URI 48-31 (It was 41-31 until late 4th).

Then you either get rid of the I-A game or don't have 6 home games. No thanks.

UNH was not a close game. It was our most humiliating loss of the season. You are stretching the truth to make your point. I might give you URI but was anyone in the stands really concerned we would give up the lead? A 17 point win is barely a competitive game but okay.

We played 11 regular season games and even if I give you URI as a “close” game, that is still six lopsided wins. Is that entertaining football for you? If it is, then you and I want different things.

I am fine if we stay FCS but let’s play a good out of conference schedule.

At 1st your metric was a "competitive" game, and then you move the goal post to "close" game..Make up you're mind..

An 11 point loss when you outgain the opponent 486-315 most people would call "competitive"

You are nitpicking BDK. Close and competitive are synonymous words. With the URI game I could at least see your point. While URI trailed most of the game, they stayed within two scores. Against UNH, JMU was getting beaten badly most of the game and scored late to make it look respectable. The UNH game was not close/competitive. Even when I give you an olive branch you can’t back down.

(01-25-2019 08:24 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  you guys should date

Longhorn is not my type. I like kind people who don’t take joy in making others look stupid.

(01-26-2019 08:45 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 04:12 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I loved traveling to NSU. If the storm hadn't canceled the game mid-2nd quarter, I would have loved the whole game.

You loved going because of their band not their football team. I remember your posts around that game.

Ha, yes. Very correct! Also I was pumped to watch our offense fly around the field.

I would not support giving up the 1-A FBS game each year. Those games are huge for program development. Throw in the big payday and some “shocker” wins and I don’t see how you can match that with a FCS game.
JMU has done well with regional FBS games against UNC, NC State, Va Tech, Maryland, WVU. Keep up the annual good work there.

I agree with those that say St Francis, Morehead St. etc are bozo games. You don’t have to schedule the #1, #2, and #3 FCS teams each year but you also don’t have to schedule #100, #101, and #102.
JMU is a heavy favorite over most FCS programs and if they can’t beat a middling FCS team then they don’t deserve a seed.

(01-26-2019 03:00 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I would not support giving up the 1-A FBS game each year. Those games are huge for program development. Throw in the big payday and some “shocker” wins and I don’t see how you can match that with a FCS game.
JMU has done well with regional FBS games against UNC, NC State, Va Tech, Maryland, WVU. Keep up the annual good work there.

I agree with those that say St Francis, Morehead St. etc are bozo games. You don’t have to schedule the #1, #2, and #3 FCS teams each year but you also don’t have to schedule #100, #101, and #102.
JMU is a heavy favorite over most FCS programs and if they can’t beat a middling FCS team then they don’t deserve a seed.

Bingo. This is all I am asking. Stop playing the worse of the worse. JMU should be able to beat the So Con and Patriot league teams. Why not play them every year?

(01-26-2019 08:52 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 07:10 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:35 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:58 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 12:02 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I absolutely hate our scheduling of OOC games. We play an FBS school and then teams that can’t hold us under 70 points. I hear that is because the CAA is so tough. Really? 37-0, 63-10, 50-0... did I miss any other CAA blow outs from this past season? By the way, JMU had three competitive conference games and lost to Colgate so please don’t try to convince me how strong the CAA was last season.

I want to see JMU play the So Con and MVC in back to back games. Let’s entertain the fans with some good football. I am sincerely thinking about dropping my season tickets in the club level this year. The cost to attend games against crappy teams just isn’t worth it. I can play golf on a beautiful fall day and be far more entertained than watching JMU beat Morehead St. by 80.

JMU had 4-5 competitive CAA games (and lost 2 of them):
L Elon 27-24
W SBU 13-10
L @ UNH 35-24
W URI 48-31 (It was 41-31 until late 4th).

Then you either get rid of the I-A game or don't have 6 home games. No thanks.

UNH was not a close game. It was our most humiliating loss of the season. You are stretching the truth to make your point. I might give you URI but was anyone in the stands really concerned we would give up the lead? A 17 point win is barely a competitive game but okay.

We played 11 regular season games and even if I give you URI as a “close” game, that is still six lopsided wins. Is that entertaining football for you? If it is, then you and I want different things.

I am fine if we stay FCS but let’s play a good out of conference schedule.

At 1st your metric was a "competitive" game, and then you move the goal post to "close" game..Make up you're mind..

An 11 point loss when you outgain the opponent 486-315 most people would call "competitive"

You are nitpicking BDK. Close and competitive are synonymous words. With the URI game I could at least see your point. While URI trailed most of the game, they stayed within two scores. Against UNH, JMU was getting beaten badly most of the game and scored late to make it look respectable. The UNH game was not close/competitive. Even when I give you an olive branch you can’t back down.

No they're not. Close means a 1 score game, or a 1 score game until late in the 4th. Competitive could mean by several scores, maybe 2-3, just not a blowout.

Agree/disagree on the UNH game. It was not close, but it was competitive.

(01-25-2019 09:23 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 07:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So looking back this century, (off the top of my head, someone chime in if not correct) 12 game seasons allowed were/are 2002, 2003, 2008 (JMU only played 11), 2013, 2014, 2019, 2024, 2025. That would make the pattern a 12 games (allowed) season, followed by four 11 game seasons, followed by two 12 game seasons, followed by four 11 game seasons, repeat. Basically 3 of every 11 seasons. Going by what Potomac has on the OP:

2020 (11 games):
-??? (probably a yet to be named cupcake)
9/12 - Chattanooga (SoCon)
11/21 - at North Carolina (ACC)

Last week NDSU/NC A&T just announced a one and done @ NDSU for 9/19. Why couldn't JMU have gotten NC A&T for a one and done? 200+ miles/about 3 1/2 hrs from JMU..instead they are flying 1400 miles to Fargo..I didn't think NDSU had more $$ to throw around..

2021 (11 games):
9/4 - Morehead State (PFL)
-???
-???

2022 (11 games):
-???
9/10 - Norfolk State (MEAC)
11/5 - at Louisville (ACC)

2023 (11 games): No OOC yet scheduled.

2024 (12 games allowed): No OOC yet scheduled.

2025 (12 games allowed):
-???
-???
-???
-11/22: at North Carolina (ACC)

The 2020 schedule is reasonable. Follow that footprint and it is likely the best you can do with an 11 game schedule. We should not play two cupcakes out of conference in any season including a 12 game season.

Then obviously you're fine with either 5 home games every other season, including 5 home/7 away in a 12 game season, or no I-A game every other season.

I'd rather be like NDSU. Minimum 6 home games every season, sometimes 7, deep playoff runs every season, always at home. Different strokes for different folks.

Regarding the bold, we've experienced this already, 2014. Another rotten play.

Agreed. That was a complete BS fail by Bourne, just like only having 5 home games and playing @ NSU last year.

(01-26-2019 08:47 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 04:14 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Isn't there a season coming up without an FBS team lined up thus far? Why not shoot for a top-10 caliber FCS home/home to replace the FBS game that season? Do we think that's just off the table due to our budget needing the payday?

I like this idea too. I would also like to see three good FCS games scheduled and only one cupcake.

Make that 2 good OOC games/1 cupcake. That's in 2021, an 11 game season, so you can't have 4 OOC.

No a I-A game, 2 quality OOC, only 1 cupcake, 6 home games, kind of like what NDSU & Montana have done the majority of 11 game seasons. That goes back to the if you want only 1 cupcake every 11 game season, then you have to every other season either give up the I-A game, or have only 5 home games. In this case JMU could be involuntarily giving up the I-A game because can't find a willing opponent, same issue as NDSU now has most seasons.

(01-25-2019 07:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So looking back this century, (off the top of my head, someone chime in if not correct) 12 game seasons allowed were/are 2002, 2003, 2008 (JMU only played 11), 2013, 2014, 2019, 2024, 2025. That would make the pattern a 12 games (allowed) season, followed by four 11 game seasons, followed by two 12 game seasons, followed by four 11 game seasons, repeat. Basically 3 of every 11 seasons. Going by what Potomac has on the OP:

2020 (11 games):
-??? (probably a yet to be named cupcake)
9/12 - Chattanooga (SoCon)
11/21 - at North Carolina (ACC)

Last week NDSU/NC A&T just announced a one and done @ NDSU for 9/19. Why couldn't JMU have gotten NC A&T for a one and done? 200+ miles/about 3 1/2 hrs from JMU..instead they are flying 1400 miles to Fargo..I didn't think NDSU had more $$ to throw around..

2021 (11 games):
9/4 - Morehead State (PFL)
-???
-???

2022 (11 games):
-???
9/10 - Norfolk State (MEAC)
11/5 - at Louisville (ACC)

2023 (11 games): No OOC yet scheduled.

2024 (12 games allowed): No OOC yet scheduled.

2025 (12 games allowed):
-???
-???
-???
-11/22: at North Carolina (ACC)

The 2020 schedule is reasonable. Follow that footprint and it is likely the best you can do with an 11 game schedule. We should not play two cupcakes out of conference in any season including a 12 game season.

Then obviously you're fine with either 5 home games every other season, including 5 home/7 away in a 12 game season, or no I-A game every other season.

I'd rather be like NDSU. Minimum 6 home games every season, sometimes 7, deep playoff runs every season, always at home. Different strokes for different folks.

Why do you find it necessary to put false statements down about what I want? How on earth do you come to these completely ridiculous conclusions based on a few comments of mine on a message board? I think you get your jolly’s picking fights with people.

I only remember twice in JMU football history when there was a deep playoff run at home. I define deep run as at least making the semifinals. It was ‘08 & ‘09. Both seasons JMU played a FBS school, a So Con school and a cupcake. They had six home games. That scheduling is exactly how they are set up for 2020. As I stated in another post, that is reasonable scheduling.

I would prefer no patsies on the out of conference schedule but can live with one crap game. Ideally, I would like to see the patsy replaced with an FCS that would offer some competition. Doesn’t have to be a top 10 team. Just a team where they game isn’t over after the first quarter.

If I apply your matrix, JMU would never get another FBS school because we have been too competitive for FBS schools to schedule us.

Norfolk St., St. Francis, Morehead St. really and NEC, MEAC or non scholarship program should never be on our schedule. There is no entertainment value in these games for ticket holders and they don’t guarantee a deep run in the playoffs either. They also don’t challenge the players and are games a player has a tough time getting emotionally ready to play.

(01-27-2019 11:11 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 07:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So looking back this century, (off the top of my head, someone chime in if not correct) 12 game seasons allowed were/are 2002, 2003, 2008 (JMU only played 11), 2013, 2014, 2019, 2024, 2025. That would make the pattern a 12 games (allowed) season, followed by four 11 game seasons, followed by two 12 game seasons, followed by four 11 game seasons, repeat. Basically 3 of every 11 seasons. Going by what Potomac has on the OP:

2020 (11 games):
-??? (probably a yet to be named cupcake)
9/12 - Chattanooga (SoCon)
11/21 - at North Carolina (ACC)

Last week NDSU/NC A&T just announced a one and done @ NDSU for 9/19. Why couldn't JMU have gotten NC A&T for a one and done? 200+ miles/about 3 1/2 hrs from JMU..instead they are flying 1400 miles to Fargo..I didn't think NDSU had more $$ to throw around..

2021 (11 games):
9/4 - Morehead State (PFL)
-???
-???

2022 (11 games):
-???
9/10 - Norfolk State (MEAC)
11/5 - at Louisville (ACC)

2023 (11 games): No OOC yet scheduled.

2024 (12 games allowed): No OOC yet scheduled.

2025 (12 games allowed):
-???
-???
-???
-11/22: at North Carolina (ACC)

The 2020 schedule is reasonable. Follow that footprint and it is likely the best you can do with an 11 game schedule. We should not play two cupcakes out of conference in any season including a 12 game season.

Then obviously you're fine with either 5 home games every other season, including 5 home/7 away in a 12 game season, or no I-A game every other season.

I'd rather be like NDSU. Minimum 6 home games every season, sometimes 7, deep playoff runs every season, always at home. Different strokes for different folks.

Why do you find it necessary to put false statements down about what I want? How on earth do you come to these completely ridiculous conclusions based on a few comments of mine on a message board? I think you get your jolly’s picking fights with people.

I only remember twice in JMU football history when there was a deep playoff run at home. I define deep run as at least making the semifinals. It was ‘08 & ‘09. Both seasons JMU played a FBS school, a So Con school and a cupcake. They had six home games. That scheduling is exactly how they are set up for 2020. As I stated in another post, that is reasonable scheduling.

I would prefer no patsies on the out of conference schedule but can live with one crap game. Ideally, I would like to see the patsy replaced with an FCS that would offer some competition. Doesn’t have to be a top 10 team. Just a team where they game isn’t over after the first quarter.

If I apply your matrix, JMU would never get another FBS school because we have been too competitive for FBS schools to schedule us.

Norfolk St., St. Francis, Morehead St. really and NEC, MEAC or non scholarship program should never be on our schedule. There is no entertainment value in these games for ticket holders and they don’t guarantee a deep run in the playoffs either. They also don’t challenge the players and are games a player has a tough time getting emotionally ready to play.

Its not a false statement or a ridiculous conclusion. For 11 game seasons:
6 home games/I-A game/only 1 home OOC cupcake simply DOESN'T WORK for EVERY 11 game season unless you have a giant pile of cash to throw at quality OOCs to get them to come to JMU for one and dones. You'd have to pay them 2x what you pay the cupcakes for one and dones, more if you were flying them in.

So if you say you are only ok with 1 OOC home cupcake per 11 game season, then that means you are ok with the result of that which = roughly half your 11 game seasons either only 5 home games, or no I-A game.

You mentioned 08' & 09. Looking at that 5 year stretch of 11 game seasons:
2008 6 home games: P5/1 home cupcake OOC/home quality OOC (ASU).
2009 5 home games: P5/1 home cupcake OOC (BTW didn't make the playoffs).
2010 6 home games: P5/1 home cupcake OOC/home quality OOC (Liberty).
2011 5 home games: P5/1 home cupcake OOC
2012: 6 home games: P5/2 home cupcakes OOC

Looking at the 3 times JMU has made the NC game:
2004: 6 home games: 2 home OOC cupcakes: Div II Lockhaven & VMI
2016: 6 home games: 2 home OOC cupcakes: Morehead St & CCSU
2017: 6 home games: 1 home OOC cupcake: NSU, + 1 borderline cupcake/quality OOC in ETSU (were in their 3rd season football/2nd season playing a full Div I schedule.
So that formula certainly doesn't hurt things.

You mention 2020 as being good: 6 home games: P5/home quality OOC (UTC)/only 1 home OOC cupcake. But the @ UTC had to go somewhere, since they either weren't willing to do a one and done, or JMU didn't put up enough $$ for a one and done. Putting @ UTC on a 12 game season this year means it didn't go on an 11 game season, and leave JMU with another 5 home game season. But it meant for this year JMU had to come up with a 2nd home OOC- and that was a 2nd cupcake.

I agree JMU should never play a non scholly PFL like Morehead St. But you said JMU should also never play a MEAC or NEC OOC. There are exceptions.
-There's nothing wrong with an instate cupcake IMHOP like NSU (or VMI), but they should NEVER be a road game like @ NSU last year.
-Nothing wrong with getting a one and done with NC A&T like NDSU just did for 2020. After all NC A&T beat JSU and ECU last year, and are 22-2 the last 2 seasons.
-I wouldn't say JMU should never play an NEC. Duquesne would be an exception. Would be a bus ride for them from Pittsburgh to JMU. Been the best NEC team this decade. Won or shared the NEC title 5 of the last 8 seasons & have only had one losing season in the last 9. In their 2 playoff appearances, last year won @ Towson by 21 (ironically same as JMU), and 2015 lost @ W&M by 3 (ironically same as JMU that year).

(01-27-2019 05:58 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 11:11 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 07:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So looking back this century, (off the top of my head, someone chime in if not correct) 12 game seasons allowed were/are 2002, 2003, 2008 (JMU only played 11), 2013, 2014, 2019, 2024, 2025. That would make the pattern a 12 games (allowed) season, followed by four 11 game seasons, followed by two 12 game seasons, followed by four 11 game seasons, repeat. Basically 3 of every 11 seasons. Going by what Potomac has on the OP:

2020 (11 games):
-??? (probably a yet to be named cupcake)
9/12 - Chattanooga (SoCon)
11/21 - at North Carolina (ACC)

Last week NDSU/NC A&T just announced a one and done @ NDSU for 9/19. Why couldn't JMU have gotten NC A&T for a one and done? 200+ miles/about 3 1/2 hrs from JMU..instead they are flying 1400 miles to Fargo..I didn't think NDSU had more $$ to throw around..

2021 (11 games):
9/4 - Morehead State (PFL)
-???
-???

2022 (11 games):
-???
9/10 - Norfolk State (MEAC)
11/5 - at Louisville (ACC)

2023 (11 games): No OOC yet scheduled.

2024 (12 games allowed): No OOC yet scheduled.

2025 (12 games allowed):
-???
-???
-???
-11/22: at North Carolina (ACC)

The 2020 schedule is reasonable. Follow that footprint and it is likely the best you can do with an 11 game schedule. We should not play two cupcakes out of conference in any season including a 12 game season.

Then obviously you're fine with either 5 home games every other season, including 5 home/7 away in a 12 game season, or no I-A game every other season.

I'd rather be like NDSU. Minimum 6 home games every season, sometimes 7, deep playoff runs every season, always at home. Different strokes for different folks.

Why do you find it necessary to put false statements down about what I want? How on earth do you come to these completely ridiculous conclusions based on a few comments of mine on a message board? I think you get your jolly’s picking fights with people.

I only remember twice in JMU football history when there was a deep playoff run at home. I define deep run as at least making the semifinals. It was ‘08 & ‘09. Both seasons JMU played a FBS school, a So Con school and a cupcake. They had six home games. That scheduling is exactly how they are set up for 2020. As I stated in another post, that is reasonable scheduling.

I would prefer no patsies on the out of conference schedule but can live with one crap game. Ideally, I would like to see the patsy replaced with an FCS that would offer some competition. Doesn’t have to be a top 10 team. Just a team where they game isn’t over after the first quarter.

If I apply your matrix, JMU would never get another FBS school because we have been too competitive for FBS schools to schedule us.

Norfolk St., St. Francis, Morehead St. really and NEC, MEAC or non scholarship program should never be on our schedule. There is no entertainment value in these games for ticket holders and they don’t guarantee a deep run in the playoffs either. They also don’t challenge the players and are games a player has a tough time getting emotionally ready to play.

Its not a false statement or a ridiculous conclusion. For 11 game seasons:
6 home games/I-A game/only 1 home OOC cupcake simply DOESN"T WORK for EVERY 11 game season unless you have a giant pile of cash to throw at quality OOCs to get them to come to JMU for one and dones. You'd have to pay them 2x what you pay the cupcakes for one and dones, more if you were flying them in.

So if you say you are only ok with 1 OOC home cupcake per 11 game season, then that means you are ok the result of that which = roughly half your 11 game seasons either only 5 home games, or no I-A game.

You mentioned 08' & 09:
2008 6 home games: P5/1 home OOC cupcake/home quality OOC (ASU).
2009 5 home games: P5/1 home OOC cupcake (BTW didn't make the playoffs).
2010 6 home games: P5/1 home OOC cupcake/home quality OOC (Liberty).
2011 5 home games: P5/1 home OOC cupcake
2012: 6 home games: P5/2 home OOC cupcakes

You mention 2020 as being good: 6 home games: P5/home quality OOC (UTC)/only 1 home OOC cupcake. But the @ UTC had to go somewhere. Putting in on a 12 game season this year means it didn't go on an 11 game season, and leave JMU with another 5 home game season. But it meant for this year JMU had to come up with a 2nd home OOC- and that was a 2nd cupcake.

I agree JMU should never play a non scholly PFL like Morehead St. But you said JMU should also never play a MEAC or NEC OOC.
-There's nothing wrong with an instate cupcake IMHOP like NSU (or VMI), but they should NEVER be a road game like @ NSU last year.
-Nothing wrong with getting a one and done with NC A&T like NDSU just did for 2020. After all NC A&T beat JSU and ECU last year, and are 22-2 the last 2 seasons.
-I wouldn't say JMU should never play an NEC. Take Duquesne for example. Beat Towson by 21 in the playoffs last year. Would be a bus ride for them from Pittsburgh to JMU.

Side note on the 2008 season. We had 7 home games scheduled, just before the season began we cancelled the Liberty game, after we realized it was scheduled to be an off weekend for our students and most would be going home. We ended up playing only 11 games in a 12 game season. Seems that the way it was told was MM lobbied JB to weasel out of it.