FWIW....

There is a poster on another website that is said to be connected with some people at Missouri that got some new information last week.

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As some of you know I have very involved contacts at MU even more so than at OU. I heard today that the big 10 is seriously looking at a 16-18 team league in the next 3-5 years and has increasing interest in KU and MU with the possibility of OU as well. The thought is a more natural division for Nebraska and gaining a huge footprint in the OKC, Kansas City and St. Louis areas to go along with Omaha. I have always said OU was sec bound but with a deal like that in the works I don't see any school turning it down. Some might say that there's no way MU leaves the SEC but I can tell you for sure they would do it with KU as a package deal. MU is a major proponent for OU to join them in the sec but this could seriously change things up if the B1G makes the first move.

http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthr...ion/page15

SEC fans are thinking "now how in the hell can we send A&M back to the Big 12!"

(06-05-2016 02:44 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  SEC fans are thinking "now how in the hell can we send A&M back to the Big 12!"

Probably.

Whatever...

Im sure they are looking at all sorts of possibilities. The time frame described sounds incredibly unrealistic.

Makes sense for the big ten to want to do it but not sure they can pull it off. The first move would be to jump to 16 with ku and ou but got to think the sec and pac 12 will counter with invites to ou and ok state, not sure how ou could leave ok state if that is the case. Of course, if the sec and pac 12 didn't invite Osu than ou jumps. If the big ten does get ou and ku, than I could Missouri being a partner with Texas to jump to 18. Yet, Texas might have other plans like the pac 12 but the big ten would be fine at 16. Bottom line, it's not easy to pull schools out of leagues. Big ten should have cleaned up with big 12 flagships when there was a crisis going on few years back but their commish was blinded with unc love, huge mistake that Ohio state past pres gee admitted

(06-05-2016 03:06 PM)bluesox Wrote:  Makes sense for the big ten to want to do it but not sure they can pull it off. The first move would be to jump to 16 with ku and ou but got to think the sec and pac 12 will counter with invites to ou and ok state, not sure how ou could leave ok state if that is the case. Of course, if the sec and pac 12 didn't invite Osu than ou jumps. If the big ten does get ou and ku, than I could Missouri being a partner with Texas to jump to 18. Yet, Texas might have other plans like the pac 12 but the big ten would be fine at 16. Bottom line, it's not easy to pull schools out of leagues. Big ten should have cleaned up with big 12 flagships when there was a crisis going on few years back but their commish was blinded with unc love, huge mistake that Ohio state past pres gee admitted

Or just left Nebraska and its fading athletic program alone for another eastern addition like UConn that would bring a lot of TV markets.

(06-05-2016 03:06 PM)bluesox Wrote:  Makes sense for the big ten to want to do it but not sure they can pull it off. The first move would be to jump to 16 with ku and ou but got to think the sec and pac 12 will counter with invites to ou and ok state, not sure how ou could leave ok state if that is the case. Of course, if the sec and pac 12 didn't invite Osu than ou jumps. If the big ten does get ou and ku, than I could Missouri being a partner with Texas to jump to 18. Yet, Texas might have other plans like the pac 12 but the big ten would be fine at 16. Bottom line, it's not easy to pull schools out of leagues. Big ten should have cleaned up with big 12 flagships when there was a crisis going on few years back but their commish was blinded with unc love, huge mistake that Ohio state past pres gee admitted

They could be at 16 already if they did take Kansas and Missouri back then to go along with Maryland and Rutgers.

Here is an article that goes over it http://newsok.com/article/3842081

Back in 2010 the B1G was talking about taking about taking Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa State and Texas A&M.

Nebraska is in the B1G now. No need for Iowa State anymore. A&M is in the SEC for the next century.

Oklahoma and Kansas are still there and they were vetted as a potential pair to go along with some other schools, such as Vandy.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...010-072615

The B1G can go back to the 2010 plan with some adjustments:

Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma and probably Texas.

KU and MU to the B1G makes sense -- both are AAU and are natural rivals.

Given their pre-Civil War history, I quietly predicted here that MU would run into problems by joining a deep-south organization. They are paying a big price for it now. I suspect they'd gladly listen to the B1G. Or even the Big XII?

Just for fun:

The B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and Missouri.

The SEC keeps pace by backfilling Missouri with Oklahoma and expanding its Texas market presence with TCU and Baylor, giving it 16 members.

UT sees the handwriting on the wall and heads for the Pac12, which also goes to 16 by scooping up Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Kansas State.

The ACC completes the P5's transition to the P4x16 by adding WVU and UConn.

With no seats left at the power conference table, Iowa State and BYU opt to join the AAC and convince Boise State, Colorado State and Air Force to come along, giving the AAC 16 members and a claim to "best of the rest" status.

The MWC responds with a move into Texas, adding UTEP, UTSA and Rice. CUSA is still left with 9 members and decides to stand pat, ending the merry-go-round.

What price is Missouri exactly paying? They are in a much better spot in the sec than the big 12. Now I could see them jump to the big ten under the right circumstances.

1) big 12 implodes with Texas, Tex tech, ou, ok state joining the pac 12 and Missouri going to the big 10 with ku...so both leagues jump to 16.

2) big 10 jumps to 18 with ku, Missouri, ou and Texas.

I don't like the odds of #2 happening since I don't see Texas going to the big 10, think they join the pac 12 if leaving the big 12. I could see the big 10 land ou and ku and stop at 16. In that case the big 10 doesn't really need Missouri since Illinois would cover St. Louis and ku Kansas City. Now if Missouri ever did leave the sec, I think the sec would jump back to 14 with Florida state and stop.

Dream on Nebraska. Dream on.

I-80. Nothing south.

(06-05-2016 06:00 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Dream on Nebraska. Dream on.

I-80. Nothing south.

This chatter has more realism to it than a 4 school swoop out of the ACC when a school would have to go to court to get out of the GOR. The B1G TV contract fits with the Big 12 schools.

What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

(06-05-2016 06:50 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

Geographic continuity to build a western footprint. Kansas is an AAU school. Missouri is an AAU school that the B1G has had some second thoughts about not taking before and are willing to go back and get them. This fills a missing gap between IL and Kansas and Oklahoma.

In order to get Oklahoma, the B1G has to take Kansas. In order to get into Texas, they need Oklahoma.

Geographic continuity is a requirement in expansion.

(06-05-2016 06:54 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:50 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

Geographic continuity to build a western footprint. Kansas is an AAU school. Missouri is an AAU school that the B1G has had some second thoughts about not taking before and are willing to go back and get them. This fills a missing gap between IL and Kansas and Oklahoma.

In order to get Oklahoma, the B1G has to take Kansas. In order to get into Texas, they need Oklahoma.

Geographic continuity is a requirement in expansion.

Sounds like a game of world domination.

Grab as much territory as you can.

(06-05-2016 08:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:54 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:50 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

Geographic continuity to build a western footprint. Kansas is an AAU school. Missouri is an AAU school that the B1G has had some second thoughts about not taking before and are willing to go back and get them. This fills a missing gap between IL and Kansas and Oklahoma.

In order to get Oklahoma, the B1G has to take Kansas. In order to get into Texas, they need Oklahoma.

Geographic continuity is a requirement in expansion.

Sounds like a game of world domination.

Grab as much territory as you can.

Populated territory = $$$$

(06-05-2016 08:07 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 08:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:54 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:50 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

Geographic continuity to build a western footprint. Kansas is an AAU school. Missouri is an AAU school that the B1G has had some second thoughts about not taking before and are willing to go back and get them. This fills a missing gap between IL and Kansas and Oklahoma.

In order to get Oklahoma, the B1G has to take Kansas. In order to get into Texas, they need Oklahoma.

Geographic continuity is a requirement in expansion.

Sounds like a game of world domination.

Grab as much territory as you can.

Populated territory = $$$$

Then why do you keep pumping KU/MU?

Oh wait, relative to Nebraska those states have a $hitload of people.

(06-05-2016 08:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 08:07 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 08:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:54 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:50 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

Geographic continuity to build a western footprint. Kansas is an AAU school. Missouri is an AAU school that the B1G has had some second thoughts about not taking before and are willing to go back and get them. This fills a missing gap between IL and Kansas and Oklahoma.

In order to get Oklahoma, the B1G has to take Kansas. In order to get into Texas, they need Oklahoma.

Geographic continuity is a requirement in expansion.

Sounds like a game of world domination.

Grab as much territory as you can.

Populated territory = $$$$

Then why do you keep pumping KU/MU?

Oh wait, relative to Nebraska those states have a $hitload of people.

Texas. I don't expect to get into Virginia or North Carolina right now. Texas would bring in over $100 million in revenue to the B1G.

Maryland + Rutgers + Texas = over $225 million a year in revenue. $$$$$$$$$ Maryland + Rutgers is $110 million.

(06-05-2016 06:54 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(06-05-2016 06:50 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  What's the allure of Kansas and Missouri without Oklahoma?

Geographic continuity to build a western footprint. Kansas is an AAU school. Missouri is an AAU school that the B1G has had some second thoughts about not taking before and are willing to go back and get them. This fills a missing gap between IL and Kansas and Oklahoma.

In order to get Oklahoma, the B1G has to take Kansas. In order to get into Texas, they need Oklahoma.

Geographic continuity is a requirement in expansion.

I understand that. But let's say Oklahoma is off the table. What's the appeal of only Kansas and Missouri? Would that make Nebraska happy?