(06-06-2016 03:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote: You can tell you are right when the simpletons resort to personal attacks.
Being the optimist that I am, I don't normally label anyone as a pessimist. However, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are it's not a cow.
Always enjoy your posts and your blog, but it is sad we are resorting to just insults now.
Describing you as a pessimist is an insult? REALLY?
In that case, let me hurry up and apologize!
(06-06-2016 11:39 AM)TerryD Wrote: Does anyone really think that an ACC Network is going to make the member schools any significant profits, whatever form it might (or might not) take?
What is on basic cable won't matter because nobody will see that they are paying for the ACC network.
The biggest push back will be from long time fans in NC, VA and SC that have gotten to see ACC content forever FOR FREE.
Raycom/Jefferson-Pilot/CD Chesley might broadcast 5 basketball games a week and at least one football game. This was in addition to any other coverage (ESPN, ABC) that the conference might get. Now most of the Raycom broadcasts come over FOX SportsSouth.......still free with your cable subscription.
Having to pay for something you have never had to pay for before is going to be an adjustment.
X is correct, and while it's an adjustment folks in the three states will *****, moan, kvetch, bloviate, and pay the bill. If you don't live in the area, you have never seen people rush home and out of their driveway in time to see their favorite team pull an upset or watch who they hate lose a game they were favored to win. I'm sure transplants and carpetbaggers are not this way, but for those of us from here, it's as much of the culture as Barbeque war.
I think you are 100% correct. They will moan the loudest but they will pay the most.
(06-05-2016 11:40 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: I don't think it's cable OR internet, I think it will be both.
Agree...I think we will have a dedicated channel like ESPN did for the SEC... but we will sell a "ACC Ticket" package to either Dish or Directtv (basketball....may even include football)
Plus we will reach the cord cutters with a streaming option that will look much like the WWE network streaming option....
The trick is going to be third tier rights and how we can simulcast those on say Fox sports South or Northeast and via streaming and via the ACC Ticket....
The ACC ticket may actually sell. Are you thinking BB? How could you do FB, I don't think there are enough games available, especially after ESPN takes the best ones.
Hadn't thought about simulcast with FSS or FSNE, hmmm, how is that going to work? I think you have to buy some of those games back.
As far as WWE, I agree but I don't see PPV. I could see something like an ACC ticket on Mondays for BB and I could see moving a Duke/UNC (or... there are a ton of great great matchups!) game to the Ticket only. And I could see any of those best matchups, FB or BB, that might be thought of for PPV being offered through a 3rd party like yahoo, amazon, twitter, verizon, at&t or other (meaning they buy rights and stream for free). That's the big X factor. Not worth much in 2017 but who knows in 2022.
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(06-06-2016 03:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote: You can tell you are right when the simpletons resort to personal attacks.
Being the optimist that I am, I don't normally label anyone as a pessimist. However, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are it's not a cow.
You aren't an optimist, you are naïve and oblivious.
Stop being so upset hearing about facts and reality. Business isn't positive or negative....it's just business.
Soon it's Time for the ACC to grow up....or blow up.
(06-06-2016 03:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote: You can tell you are right when the simpletons resort to personal attacks.
Being the optimist that I am, I don't normally label anyone as a pessimist. However, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are it's not a cow.
You aren't an optimist, you are naïve and oblivious.
Stop being so upset hearing about facts and reality. Business isn't positive or negative....it's just business.
Soon it's Time for the ACC to grow up....or blow up.
Are there any SEC or Big 10 teams that the top ACC teams would trade performance with since the latest round of realignment of 2014? We keep hearing about this money gap but where it counts, the ACC is king. I know it's only been a short while my team (Louisville) has been in the ACC but the way our ACC teams are performing in football, men's and women's basketball and baseball, I'm tired of hearing "do nothing" fans of "do nothing" teams from the "do nothing" conference (Big 12) constantly bringing up conference distribution like they are bragging about winning national championships, final fours, access bowls, CWS appearances, etc. It's just a distraction to compensate for poor performance and create discontent among top ACC teams to save that train wreck of a conference by dangling money as the #1 motivator.
We've placed 11 teams in bowl games recently, incredible ncaa basketball units accumulated, 10 teams in the ncaa baseball tournament this year. Football made some great hires in the off season and it's going to get real interesting in the next 3 or 4 years. That's a whole lot better than trying to tally up tier 3 tv revenue to add to conference payouts to try boost your team and conference pride.
(This post was last modified: 06-06-2016 10:36 PM by dopeordogfood.)
(06-06-2016 10:28 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote: Are there any SEC or Big 10 teams that the top ACC teams would trade performance with since the latest round of realignment of 2014? We keep hearing about this money gap but where it counts, the ACC is king. I know it's only been a short while my team (Louisville) has been in the ACC but the way our ACC teams are performing in football, men's and women's basketball and baseball, I'm tired of hearing "do nothing" fans of "do nothing" teams from the "do nothing" conference (Big 12) constantly bringing up conference distribution like they are bragging about winning national championships, final fours, access bowls, CWS appearances, etc. It's just a distraction to compensate for poor performance and create discontent among top ACC teams to save that train wreck of a conference by dangling money as the #1 motivator.
We've placed 11 teams in bowl games recently, incredible ncaa basketball units accumulated, 10 teams in the ncaa baseball tournament this year. Football made some great hires in the off season and it's going to get real interesting in the next 3 or 4 years. That's a whole lot better than trying to tally up tier 3 tv revenue to add to conference payouts to try boost your team and conference pride.
Haven't you heard college athletics is about competing for the mythical money title?
Big 10 - mythical money title
38-0 loss in college football playoffs
0 Teams past sweet 16 in men's basketball
0 Baseball Super Regional Teams
0 Teams past sweet 16 in women's basektball
1 national title in any of the above sports in the last decade.
Very impressive Big 10.
Everyone recognizes the ACC needs a revenue generator, but when the conference distribution difference in athletic departments is typically less than 15% of an athletic budget it's effect has been exaggerated beyond belief.
Alabama and Florida State with over 100 Million in Athletic budgets have < $10 Million difference in conference distribution.
This is roughly the equivalent of a home salary difference of 37K and 40K.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2016 09:40 AM by GTTiger.)
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(06-07-2016 08:03 AM)GTTiger Wrote: Alabama and Florida State with over 100 Million in Athletic budgets have < $10 Million difference in conference distribution.
This roughly the equivalent of a home salary difference of 37K and 40K.
I wonder if there is a comparison of team revenue from 20 years ago or even 10-15 years ago. I suspect the difference is probably the same between Florida state and Florida, Alabama, Ohio state, etc that it is today. Until Iowa state and Mississippi state pass up FSU, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. These teams like Texas and Ohio state have revenue in excess of $170M a year. We are losing our minds over where $35 million of it comes comes from compared to $27 million of it from the other? ?
(06-06-2016 10:28 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote: Are there any SEC or Big 10 teams that the top ACC teams would trade performance with since the latest round of realignment of 2014? We keep hearing about this money gap but where it counts, the ACC is king. I know it's only been a short while my team (Louisville) has been in the ACC but the way our ACC teams are performing in football, men's and women's basketball and baseball, I'm tired of hearing "do nothing" fans of "do nothing" teams from the "do nothing" conference (Big 12) constantly bringing up conference distribution like they are bragging about winning national championships, final fours, access bowls, CWS appearances, etc. It's just a distraction to compensate for poor performance and create discontent among top ACC teams to save that train wreck of a conference by dangling money as the #1 motivator.
We've placed 11 teams in bowl games recently, incredible ncaa basketball units accumulated, 10 teams in the ncaa baseball tournament this year. Football made some great hires in the off season and it's going to get real interesting in the next 3 or 4 years. That's a whole lot better than trying to tally up tier 3 tv revenue to add to conference payouts to try boost your team and conference pride.
This isn't about right now because right now is living off of the investments made years ago, mostly when the gap was in our favor. The concern is for 10 years from now.
(06-07-2016 11:01 AM)Kaplony Wrote: This isn't about right now because right now is living off of the investments made years ago, mostly when the gap was in our favor. The concern is for 10 years from now.
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(06-07-2016 11:01 AM)Kaplony Wrote:
(06-06-2016 10:28 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote: Are there any SEC or Big 10 teams that the top ACC teams would trade performance with since the latest round of realignment of 2014? We keep hearing about this money gap but where it counts, the ACC is king. I know it's only been a short while my team (Louisville) has been in the ACC but the way our ACC teams are performing in football, men's and women's basketball and baseball, I'm tired of hearing "do nothing" fans of "do nothing" teams from the "do nothing" conference (Big 12) constantly bringing up conference distribution like they are bragging about winning national championships, final fours, access bowls, CWS appearances, etc. It's just a distraction to compensate for poor performance and create discontent among top ACC teams to save that train wreck of a conference by dangling money as the #1 motivator.
We've placed 11 teams in bowl games recently, incredible ncaa basketball units accumulated, 10 teams in the ncaa baseball tournament this year. Football made some great hires in the off season and it's going to get real interesting in the next 3 or 4 years. That's a whole lot better than trying to tally up tier 3 tv revenue to add to conference payouts to try boost your team and conference pride.
This isn't about right now because right now is living off of the investments made years ago, mostly when the gap was in our favor. The concern is for 10 years from now.
(06-07-2016 11:01 AM)Kaplony Wrote: This isn't about right now because right now is living off of the investments made years ago, mostly when the gap was in our favor. The concern is for 10 years from now.
OMG (OH MY GAWD)
Miami has spent the past twelve years trying to play football on the cheap. How's that working out for you?
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