Maybe there is a better way to word it?

A P5 conference would have four teams every fan instantly identifies with.
B1G for example OSU,UM, IU the fourth spot would rotate based on who is hot. First three get attention when they are down do to history.

G5 probably two programs with tradition playing less of a role.
MWC SDSU 34 championships (2) in football past six years top basketball program.
Boise state two football titles since joining the MWC but the Access Bowl is huge .

Sun Belt I think it is Appalachian state and Georgia Southern.

CUSA Marshal and Southern Miss

MAC NIU and ?

AAC Houston and U Conn

SEC Alabama and Kentucky maybe Florida

ACC Notre dame ,FSU,Duke and UNC

PAC 12. USC,UCLA and Oregon

Switch UC for Houston in the AAC

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Not sure I agree with the premise or the quantity. In any case the "faces" will change based on time of year.

SEC in football season I think of Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Florida. In basketball season I think of Florida and Kentucky.
ACC in football I think of FSU, Miami (yes), Clemson and VT. Basketball would be UNC, Louisville, Duke and Syracuse.

ND would be a face of the ACC if football joined. But until the Terrys of the world cave, it's football program isn't in the ACC and its basketball program is 5th or 6th in the conference (UNC, Duke, SU, UL, and probably whoever is hot - UVA are ahead of ND).

The ACC should be:
Basketball - Duke and UNC
Football - FSU and Clemson

But honestly, Syracuse and Louisville would be at least one of the basketball faces of any other conference.

(06-11-2016 01:23 PM)MJG Wrote:  Maybe there is a better way to word it?

A P5 conference would have four teams every fan instantly identifies with.
B1G for example OSU,UM, IU the fourth spot would rotate based on who is hot. First three get attention when they are down do to history.

G5 probably two programs with tradition playing less of a role.
MWC SDSU 34 championships (2) in football past six years top basketball program.
Boise state two football titles since joining the MWC but the Access Bowl is huge .

Sun Belt I think it is Appalachian state and Georgia Southern.

CUSA Marshal and Southern Miss

MAC NIU and ?

AAC Houston and U Conn

SEC Alabama and Kentucky maybe Florida

ACC Notre dame ,FSU,Duke and UNC

PAC 12. USC,UCLA and Oregon

I agree there is probably a better way to word this.

(06-11-2016 01:23 PM)MJG Wrote:  Maybe there is a better way to word it?

A P5 conference would have four teams every fan instantly identifies with.
B1G for example OSU,UM, IU the fourth spot would rotate based on who is hot. First three get attention when they are down do to history.

G5 probably two programs with tradition playing less of a role.
MWC SDSU 34 championships (2) in football past six years top basketball program.
Boise state two football titles since joining the MWC but the Access Bowl is huge .

Sun Belt I think it is Appalachian state and Georgia Southern.

CUSA Marshal and Southern Miss

MAC NIU and ?

AAC Houston and U Conn

SEC Alabama and Kentucky maybe Florida

ACC Notre dame ,FSU,Duke and UNC

PAC 12. USC,UCLA and Oregon

Cracks me up. Arkansas State takes four of five Sun Belt titles sends three coaches to high profile gigs, leads the league in attendance and has been most televised of late drawing the biggest tv audiences and still not "the face" of the Sun Belt.
Ironically AState has never been picked in the official pre-season poll to be league champion despite a total of five titles, and there have been two times the conference coach of the year didn't win a share of the title, both times AState won and winning an "unexpected" league title didn't warrant coach of the year honors.

Miami was undoubtedly the face of the MAC until about ten years ago. Marshall, too, during their second stay with the conference.

I don't know that too many conferences have an avatar program, one that represents the conference most fully. The AAC, CUSA and Sun Belt would go to the school with the longest uninterrupted tenure in the revenue sports (UConn, Southern Miss and South Alabama). The MACs a tough call (Ohio?). No clue about the Mountain West. And in the P5 conferences, the best football teams are usually poor in basketball and vice versa, so having one be the "face" would be difficult.

In the truest sense—as in when 100 people surveyed are asked to name a school in the XYZ conference, one school gets so many responses that Steve Harvey has to throw the question out—the only "faces" of their conferences are probably Gonzaga and Wichita State.

(06-11-2016 05:20 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I don't know that too many conferences have an avatar program, one that represents the conference most fully. The AAC, CUSA and Sun Belt would go to the school with the longest uninterrupted tenure in the revenue sports (UConn, Southern Miss and South Alabama). The MACs a tough call (Ohio?). No clue about the Mountain West. And in the P5 conferences, the best football teams are usually poor in basketball and vice versa, so having one be the "face" would be difficult.

In the truest sense—as in when 100 people surveyed are asked to name a school in the XYZ conference, one school gets so many responses that Steve Harvey has to throw the question out—the only "faces" of their conferences are probably Gonzaga and Wichita State.

USA is the oldest remaining Sun Belt if you follow the Sun Belt nameplate lineage but the Sun Belt really isn't the Sun Belt, it is the American South. When the Belt got down to 3 members (with UALR set to join) it merged with the American South who had 7 members at the time. While the took the Sun Belt name, it was the American South's commissioner who headed the league.

If you look at is a newly named American South then the longest standing members are Arkansas State and Louisiana Lafayette.

(06-11-2016 04:45 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 01:23 PM)MJG Wrote:  Maybe there is a better way to word it?

A P5 conference would have four teams every fan instantly identifies with.
B1G for example OSU,UM, IU the fourth spot would rotate based on who is hot. First three get attention when they are down do to history.

G5 probably two programs with tradition playing less of a role.
MWC SDSU 34 championships (2) in football past six years top basketball program.
Boise state two football titles since joining the MWC but the Access Bowl is huge .

Sun Belt I think it is Appalachian state and Georgia Southern.

CUSA Marshal and Southern Miss

MAC NIU and ?

AAC Houston and U Conn

SEC Alabama and Kentucky maybe Florida

ACC Notre dame ,FSU,Duke and UNC

PAC 12. USC,UCLA and Oregon

Cracks me up. Arkansas State takes four of five Sun Belt titles sends three coaches to high profile gigs, leads the league in attendance and has been most televised of late drawing the biggest tv audiences and still not "the face" of the Sun Belt.
Ironically AState has never been picked in the official pre-season poll to be league champion despite a total of five titles, and there have been two times the conference coach of the year didn't win a share of the title, both times AState won and winning an "unexpected" league title didn't warrant coach of the year honors.

My answer is because I live in Myrtle Beach those are the top draws here.
App ST Got more out its Michigan win than a conference championship.
Arkansas St is the best program the last half dozen years or so.

(06-11-2016 06:20 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 04:45 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 01:23 PM)MJG Wrote:  Maybe there is a better way to word it?

A P5 conference would have four teams every fan instantly identifies with.
B1G for example OSU,UM, IU the fourth spot would rotate based on who is hot. First three get attention when they are down do to history.

G5 probably two programs with tradition playing less of a role.
MWC SDSU 34 championships (2) in football past six years top basketball program.
Boise state two football titles since joining the MWC but the Access Bowl is huge .

Sun Belt I think it is Appalachian state and Georgia Southern.

CUSA Marshal and Southern Miss

MAC NIU and ?

AAC Houston and U Conn

SEC Alabama and Kentucky maybe Florida

ACC Notre dame ,FSU,Duke and UNC

PAC 12. USC,UCLA and Oregon

Cracks me up. Arkansas State takes four of five Sun Belt titles sends three coaches to high profile gigs, leads the league in attendance and has been most televised of late drawing the biggest tv audiences and still not "the face" of the Sun Belt.
Ironically AState has never been picked in the official pre-season poll to be league champion despite a total of five titles, and there have been two times the conference coach of the year didn't win a share of the title, both times AState won and winning an "unexpected" league title didn't warrant coach of the year honors.

My answer is because I live in Myrtle Beach those are the top draws here.
App ST Got more out its Michigan win than a conference championship.
Arkansas St is the best program the last half dozen years or so.

And Appalachian State and Georgia Southern have been in the Sun Belt for two years.

Sun Belt - Arkansas State and Louisiana Lafayette

CUSA - Southern Miss and Marshall

MAC - Ohio and Toledo

MWC - San Diego State and Boise State

AAC - Connecticut and Houston

SEC - Alabama and Kentucky

ACC - North Carolina and Duke

Big 12 - Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas

Big 10 - Ohio State, Michigan and Michigan State

PAC 12. USC,UCLA and Oregon

I counted ND as being ACC probably a mistake.
They are three football games short of full membership.

My thinking about the SBC is that APP ST and Georgia Southern get the most press.
Idaho's first year in the SBC I watched a preseason football show and bought a pre season magazine both left the SBC out.

Troy probably had the title but ASU and ULL have earned it.



UNLV is as well known as any MWC team but most of their glory was in a different conference.
Never thought the MWC would be a one bid league.

AAC is so new and deep it is too early to tell.

(06-11-2016 04:52 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Miami was undoubtedly the face of the MAC until about ten years ago. Marshall, too, during their second stay with the conference.

Yep, pretty much. I'd say now it's shared between Ohio (due to consistent football and basketball success, high MAC attendance) and whomever is good in football any given year between NIU, Toledo, etc. No real dominant force, but historically it's been Miami. May we be the face of the MAC in if this thread is bumped in five years.

(06-12-2016 03:07 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 04:52 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Miami was undoubtedly the face of the MAC until about ten years ago. Marshall, too, during their second stay with the conference.

Yep, pretty much. I'd say now it's shared between Ohio (due to consistent football and basketball success, high MAC attendance) and whomever is good in football any given year between NIU, Toledo, etc. No real dominant force, but historically it's been Miami. May we be the face of the MAC in if this thread is bumped in five years.

Heck Miami of Ohio (as they used to say it on the Prudential Scoreboard Report on ABC) was the face of the league in the 70's. I think NIU gets the honors of late just based on the buster appearance and the ratings for games involving NIU the past few years.

For the young'uns around here, back in the 1970's it wasn't cost-effective to use satellite, games were distributed on leased lines and there was video tape but the quality wasn't great and the expense was great.

The NCAA restricted TV if you were lucky you might get three games to watch on a Saturday.

There was no SportsCenter and the closest thing to it was at the end of the ABC college football telecast for the day there was a 30 minute show with scores around the country. You got highlights of the ABC action (most was regional) so in Arkansas you might see Texas Tech vs. Houston on ABC while there were another four games or so that other people saw based on their area.

The highlight show had clips from those games plus ABC would send a camera crew to another ten or so games, the crew would shoot a bit and then drive hard and fast to the nearest ABC affiliate with a leased line, the camera guys would process their film, cut it down to a few highlights and send it analog over the line to New York where it would be cut down for the show.

Just having your highlights on the show was a big deal.