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I think this is never going to happen, but know many here would love to read.

He told us the same thing a couple of weeks ago....
Listen HERE

I think the main reason for publishing the article linked in the OP is to make it appear that Tim Brando knows what he is talking about. He gets to say in print what the rest of us already knew about Notre Dame's status within the ACC and the requirement that they can't join any other conference while their current deal with the ACC is in force. Note that he makes his statements without acknowledging that he only learned about this in the last couple of weeks after he publicly demonstrated his ignorance on the subject and was called out for it.

Brando has no inside information. He also has no more credibility for his opinions than millions of average fans. He is currently employed by Fox Sports because ESPN wouldn't hire him even after he publicly announced he was going to work for them. Basically, his claim to fame is that he does a decent job doing play-by-play thanks to his early training as a DJ.

Take whatever Brando says with a big grain of salt.

Yeah, we have been discussing these statements by Brando for a couple of weeks now. It was rubbish when he first "reported it" and nothing has changed since. It will be a long time before ND joins any conference. They have the setup with the ACC that benefits each as well as can be without ND actually being part of the ACC.

The one thing I will say about it is this: it's likely that ACC payouts will soon pass what Notre Dame makes as an independent. True, the Irish have not always jumped at more money in the past, but this is a rare situation where the conference they are already partial members of could offer them more money if they join all in...

(06-03-2016 09:55 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  The one thing I will say about it is this: it's likely that ACC payouts will soon pass what Notre Dame makes as an independent. True, the Irish have not always jumped at more money in the past, but this is a rare situation where the conference they are already partial members of could offer them more money if they join all in...

That will not move the needle.

more on the money aspect:
http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2016/0...-6316.html

Terry is probably right - money alone won't do it. However, if it's combined with other factors, at least the money won't be a reason NOT to go all in.

The only thing that may force Notre Dame to join any conference would be for conference membership to be a requirement to make the CFP. I say may because that might not be enough. Do I see it happening? Absolutely not. If however leagues that Notre Dame have slighted by not joining them might see it as a way to force the Irish to get in or get out.
CJ

(06-03-2016 10:37 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  more on the money aspect:
http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2016/0...-6316.html

Terry is probably right - money alone won't do it. However, if it's combined with other factors, at least the money won't be a reason NOT to go all in.

My take:

It would take a P4 setup and a legislatively mandated conference champs only playoff scenario to make ND consider anything like that.

Then...ND joins the ACC in full about five minutes later.

Until and unless that happens....crickets.....ND will not budge from its current status.

An ACC Network alone will not do it.


There are my predictions (I am often wrong but that never stops me...)

Other conferences do NOT want to help the ACC get ND.....or with anything else.

Look at the last push by Swofford to give flexibilities with divisions. There was NO reason for other conferences to vote the ACC part of that down....but they did, just to prevent the ACC from making progress.


NO WAY do other conferences lock down the playoffs to divisional champions....sending ND to the ACC and preventing power conferences from getting more than 1 in playoffs.

It will never happen......also part of the reason ND to the ACC will never happen.

(06-03-2016 11:38 AM)nole Wrote:  Other conferences do NOT want to help the ACC get ND.....or with anything else.

Look at the last push by Swofford to give flexibilities with divisions. There was NO reason for other conferences to vote the ACC part of that down....but they did, just to prevent the ACC from making progress.


NO WAY do other conferences lock down the playoffs to divisional champions....sending ND to the ACC and preventing power conferences from getting more than 1 in playoffs.

It will never happen......also part of the reason ND to the ACC will never happen.

I don't think it's "other conferences", just one - the Big Ten. Jim Delaney continues to hold out hope of raiding the ACC. I think the only reason the others went along was because the ACC proposal was too open-ended for their taste. IMO, if the ACC were to propose a single modification - allowing teams to skip one (maybe even two) member(s) of their own division and still hold a conference championship - that would be much more likely to pass. Saying "total deregulation - let the conferences do whatever they want" made people understandably nervous.

(06-03-2016 11:10 AM)TerryD Wrote:  My take:

ND will not budge from its current status.

An ACC Network alone will not do it.

These are my predictions (I am often wrong but that never stops me...)

TRUER WORDS NEVER SPOKEN

(06-03-2016 12:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IMO, if the ACC were to propose a single modification - allowing teams to skip one (maybe even two) member(s) of their own division and still hold a conference championship - that would be much more likely to pass.

why must there be divisions ...

THROW INTO THE POT

(06-03-2016 09:46 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  Yeah, we have been discussing these statements by Brando for a couple of weeks now. It was rubbish when he first "reported it" and nothing has changed since. It will be a long time before ND joins any conference. They have the setup with the ACC that benefits each as well as can be without ND actually being part of the ACC.

Wait -- I thought Notre Dame WAS (and IS) part of the ACC. Their logo is on the conference website, is it not? They just chose to continue with football independence.

"They just chose to continue with football independence. "


And just not sharing 90% of their revenue.....but sure, they are part of the ACC for the parts that don't matter as much....ie 90% of their revenue.


Guess the ACC isn't REALLY equal revenue sharing like is often claimed or ignored.

(06-03-2016 12:31 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Wait -- I thought Notre Dame WAS (and IS) part of the ACC. Their logo is on the conference website, is it not? They just chose to continue with football independence.

yet, their football relies on the conference for bowls & games ...
declaration of independence ...

IN NAME ONLY

(06-03-2016 12:32 PM)nole Wrote:  "They just chose to continue with football independence. "


And just not sharing 90% of their revenue.....but sure, they are part of the ACC for the parts that don't matter as much....ie 90% of their revenue.


Guess the ACC isn't REALLY equal revenue sharing like is often claimed or ignored.

Sounds like an issue you have to resolve internally, but I'm good with the current arrangement :)

ND is an ACC member.

(06-03-2016 12:47 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:32 PM)nole Wrote:  "They just chose to continue with football independence. "


And just not sharing 90% of their revenue.....but sure, they are part of the ACC for the parts that don't matter as much....ie 90% of their revenue.


Guess the ACC isn't REALLY equal revenue sharing like is often claimed or ignored.

ND is an ACC member.

Not really....but it makes you feel better to say it. If they were, ACC wouldn't have a revenue gap

(06-03-2016 01:04 PM)nole Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:47 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:32 PM)nole Wrote:  "They just chose to continue with football independence. "


And just not sharing 90% of their revenue.....but sure, they are part of the ACC for the parts that don't matter as much....ie 90% of their revenue.


Guess the ACC isn't REALLY equal revenue sharing like is often claimed or ignored.

ND is an ACC member.

Not really....but it makes you feel better to say it. If they were, ACC wouldn't have a revenue gap

Yeah, your issue may be with the league office and their website folks and marketers (and such). As long as ND's logo appears on the official site, they are an ACC member.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(06-03-2016 01:14 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 01:04 PM)nole Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:47 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:32 PM)nole Wrote:  "They just chose to continue with football independence. "


And just not sharing 90% of their revenue.....but sure, they are part of the ACC for the parts that don't matter as much....ie 90% of their revenue.


Guess the ACC isn't REALLY equal revenue sharing like is often claimed or ignored.

ND is an ACC member.

Not really....but it makes you feel better to say it. If they were, ACC wouldn't have a revenue gap

Yeah, your issue may be with the league office and their website folks and marketers (and such). As long as ND's logo appears on the official site, they are an ACC member.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, logos are what this is about...lol. We have their logo...they have all their $$$.

ACC is so easily out maneuvered (sadly, so is FSU).