(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

The article doesn't say anything but COULD. Could do this. Could be worth that. It is speculation. A school like Texas is looking for WILL. Will do this. Will be worth that.

It sounds like they are waiting for a different weight class of schools to become available for expansion.

(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

EXCERPT:

Big 12 could earn an additional $1 billion by expanding
Expansion is on the table at the Big 12 Spring Meetings, and even though a decision is unlikely, there could be a huge financial windfall
by Dennis Dodd
@dennisdoddcbs
1h ago

DALLAS -- Big 12 administrators will be presented with information this week at the league's spring meetings that expansion could earn the conference at least an additional $1 billion over the length of its remaining TV rights contract, CBS Sports has learned.

If the league expands by four teams, provisions in its contracts with ESPN and Fox provide money for that benchmark. If the expansion is by two teams, the increase would be $500 million.

Those rightsholders are contractually bound to provide "pro rata" for any new Big 12 members. That is, any new members would be paid an equal share of the current Big 12 members -- approximately $23 million per year.

While on its face that doesn't necessarily help the 10 current members of the Big 12, opening the existing contract would allow for a negotiation beyond that $1 billion figure.

Most importantly, it would satisfy one of the conference's key concerns: Falling behind the other Power Five conferences in revenue.

The Big 12 is approximately $9 million per school behind the SEC in annual revenue. Added expansion would close that gap "by half," according to a source.

The Big 12 has eight years remaining on its rights deal that pays it through the 2024-25 academic year. The current media rights deal is worth $1.3 billion from ESPN and $1.2 billion from Fox, according to SportsBusiness Daily.

While an additional $1 billion wouldn't guarantee expansion, it does shed light on how the league could add new teams. Previously, the discussion had centered around the quality of teams joining, rather than the Big 12's leverage in expansion.

When the league signed the 2012 deal, there was conversation regarding language for reopening the contract in the event of expansion. The parties agreed the Big 12 would get equal shares for any new teams that were added.

That means a team from the American Athletic Conference -- most often mentioned as possibilities in Big 12 expansion -- would automatically go from the $3-10 million range to $23 million.

Read much more here:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

This article further confirms my belief its not happening. The guts says there is nothing they can think of that would make Texas pro expansion. Which means if they expand Texas and ou leave and the conference collapses.

(06-01-2016 10:11 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

Come on down ACC teams (FSU and Clemson)?

Not happening. But even if it does, the Big 12 could add 4 now, and take those 2 later.

And let's say your fantasy came true. Then the AAC teams would just fill in there, instead.

(06-01-2016 10:14 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

The article doesn't say anything but COULD. Could do this. Could be worth that. It is speculation. A school like Texas is looking for WILL. Will do this. Will be worth that.

It sounds like they are waiting for a different weight class of schools to become available for expansion.

Peeps gonna believe what they want to believe.

(06-01-2016 10:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Okay, you guys believe whatever makes you feel better.

We get it. No one wants to let go of dreams. Nothing wrong with that and every program should have dreams and aspirations.

However, it is clear that they are not feeling Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and USF or for that matter Colorado State, BYU or any of the other schools dreaming of the B12. Think about the schools that left the B12 (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M). Big 12 members like Texas are clearly thinking that they can get heavyweights to join their league rather than middleweights. That is just the fact of the business.

(06-01-2016 10:18 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:14 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

The article doesn't say anything but COULD. Could do this. Could be worth that. It is speculation. A school like Texas is looking for WILL. Will do this. Will be worth that.

It sounds like they are waiting for a different weight class of schools to become available for expansion.

Peeps gonna believe what they want to believe.

True, but even you have to admit that it sounds like the B12 wants schools from other P5 leagues.

(06-01-2016 10:21 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Okay, you guys believe whatever makes you feel better.

We get it. No one wants to let go of dreams. Nothing wrong with that and every program should have dreams and aspirations.

However, it is clear that they are not feeling Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and USF or for that matter Colorado State, BYU or any of the other schools dreaming of the B12. Think about the schools that left the B12 (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M). Big 12 members like Texas are clearly thinking that they can get heavyweights to join their league rather than middleweights. That is just the fact of the business.

I'm talking about you, not me. Believe what makes you happy. This stuff didn't just start up today. That's a fact of business, too.

(06-01-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:21 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Okay, you guys believe whatever makes you feel better.

We get it. No one wants to let go of dreams. Nothing wrong with that and every program should have dreams and aspirations.

However, it is clear that they are not feeling Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and USF or for that matter Colorado State, BYU or any of the other schools dreaming of the B12. Think about the schools that left the B12 (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M). Big 12 members like Texas are clearly thinking that they can get heavyweights to join their league rather than middleweights. That is just the fact of the business.

I'm talking about you, not me. Believe what makes you happy. This stuff didn't just start up today. That's a fact of business, too.

Yeah, we know, Memphis has been a lock since the day they joined the BEAST, which was after how many attempts?

(06-01-2016 07:46 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 07:36 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  obviously texas has buku power and they ont like flying to the eastcoast
so the newbies will side with texas. no epansion boyz maybe IN 3-5 yrs but not in the near future.

what's buku power?

That's a poor translation or spelling.

Ask a Vietnam Vet.

Beaucoup/boocoo/boo-coo

(06-01-2016 10:29 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 07:46 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 07:36 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  obviously texas has buku power and they ont like flying to the eastcoast
so the newbies will side with texas. no epansion boyz maybe IN 3-5 yrs but not in the near future.

what's buku power?

That's a poor translation or spelling.

Ask a Vietnam Vet.

Beaucoup/boocoo/boo-coo

I already splained it to our learned friend. You are too kind. Hes just dumb

(06-01-2016 10:14 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

The article doesn't say anything but COULD. Could do this. Could be worth that. It is speculation. A school like Texas is looking for WILL. Will do this. Will be worth that.

It sounds like they are waiting for a different weight class of schools to become available for expansion.

What in the world are you babbling about marv. Good grief

(06-01-2016 10:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:14 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Read this, and let me know if all you guys are still convinced there will be no expansion:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-expanding

The article doesn't say anything but COULD. Could do this. Could be worth that. It is speculation. A school like Texas is looking for WILL. Will do this. Will be worth that.

It sounds like they are waiting for a different weight class of schools to become available for expansion.

What in the world are you babbling about marv. Good grief

It's Piratemarv....it's what he does.

(06-01-2016 10:27 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:21 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Okay, you guys believe whatever makes you feel better.

We get it. No one wants to let go of dreams. Nothing wrong with that and every program should have dreams and aspirations.

However, it is clear that they are not feeling Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and USF or for that matter Colorado State, BYU or any of the other schools dreaming of the B12. Think about the schools that left the B12 (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M). Big 12 members like Texas are clearly thinking that they can get heavyweights to join their league rather than middleweights. That is just the fact of the business.

I'm talking about you, not me. Believe what makes you happy. This stuff didn't just start up today. That's a fact of business, too.

Yeah, we know, Memphis has been a lock since the day they joined the BEAST, which was after how many attempts?

The beast. Lmao. What a collection of suck ass football schools. Thank god that abomination fell apart. All that beast money and we still kick you little varmit butts. Post less. Beast. Lmao. No ranked schools, no big bowls. Im so glad that shitshow is dead. We wanted bcs status. Heck the beast couldnt keep that and their former schools now languish in obscurity.

(06-01-2016 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:27 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:21 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Okay, you guys believe whatever makes you feel better.

We get it. No one wants to let go of dreams. Nothing wrong with that and every program should have dreams and aspirations.

However, it is clear that they are not feeling Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and USF or for that matter Colorado State, BYU or any of the other schools dreaming of the B12. Think about the schools that left the B12 (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M). Big 12 members like Texas are clearly thinking that they can get heavyweights to join their league rather than middleweights. That is just the fact of the business.

I'm talking about you, not me. Believe what makes you happy. This stuff didn't just start up today. That's a fact of business, too.

Yeah, we know, Memphis has been a lock since the day they joined the BEAST, which was after how many attempts?

The beast. Lmao. What a collection of suck ass football schools. Thank god that abomination fell apart. All that beast money and we still kick you little varmit butts. Post less. Beast. Lmao. No ranked schools, no big bowls. Im so glad that shitshow is dead. We wanted bcs status. Heck the beast couldnt keep that and their former schools now languish in obscurity.

Hey freaking moron, WVA and louisville both won big bowl games in the BEAST. Miami won national championships, you have to be the most butt hurt person on here about the BEAST. Still sore that Memphis could never get in? Sour grapes and all.

(06-01-2016 10:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:29 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 07:46 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 07:36 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  obviously texas has buku power and they ont like flying to the eastcoast
so the newbies will side with texas. no epansion boyz maybe IN 3-5 yrs but not in the near future.

what's buku power?

That's a poor translation or spelling.

Ask a Vietnam Vet.

Beaucoup/boocoo/boo-coo

I already splained it to our learned friend. You are too kind. Hes just dumb

Ahh, I now see that you did. Sorry 'bout that.

(06-01-2016 10:51 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:27 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:21 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  We get it. No one wants to let go of dreams. Nothing wrong with that and every program should have dreams and aspirations.

However, it is clear that they are not feeling Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and USF or for that matter Colorado State, BYU or any of the other schools dreaming of the B12. Think about the schools that left the B12 (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M). Big 12 members like Texas are clearly thinking that they can get heavyweights to join their league rather than middleweights. That is just the fact of the business.

I'm talking about you, not me. Believe what makes you happy. This stuff didn't just start up today. That's a fact of business, too.

Yeah, we know, Memphis has been a lock since the day they joined the BEAST, which was after how many attempts?

The beast. Lmao. What a collection of suck ass football schools. Thank god that abomination fell apart. All that beast money and we still kick you little varmit butts. Post less. Beast. Lmao. No ranked schools, no big bowls. Im so glad that shitshow is dead. We wanted bcs status. Heck the beast couldnt keep that and their former schools now languish in obscurity.

Hey freaking moron, WVA and louisville both won big bowl games in the BEAST. Miami won national championships, you have to be the most butt hurt person on here about the BEAST. Still sore that Memphis could never get in? Sour grapes and all.

I noticed your responses are harsh and vulgar. You should maybe try some Tai Chi. Might I also suggest sculpting a Bonsai tree. I would like to see a gentler, more relaxed approach moving forward. Don't clench your teeth when you type.

PS: Citing Miami Fl is worthless. They were not in the Big East when UC was.

(06-01-2016 10:58 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:51 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:27 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I'm talking about you, not me. Believe what makes you happy. This stuff didn't just start up today. That's a fact of business, too.

Yeah, we know, Memphis has been a lock since the day they joined the BEAST, which was after how many attempts?

The beast. Lmao. What a collection of suck ass football schools. Thank god that abomination fell apart. All that beast money and we still kick you little varmit butts. Post less. Beast. Lmao. No ranked schools, no big bowls. Im so glad that shitshow is dead. We wanted bcs status. Heck the beast couldnt keep that and their former schools now languish in obscurity.

Hey freaking moron, WVA and louisville both won big bowl games in the BEAST. Miami won national championships, you have to be the most butt hurt person on here about the BEAST. Still sore that Memphis could never get in? Sour grapes and all.

I noticed your responses are harsh and vulgar. You should maybe try some Tai Chi. Might I also suggest sculpting a Bonsai tree. I would like to see a gentler, more relaxed approach moving forward. Don't clench your teeth when you type.

PS: Citing Miami Fl is worthless. They were not in the Big East when UC was.

Tai chi. I dont eat that spicy stuff. Makes me burp

(06-01-2016 11:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:58 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:51 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:27 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Yeah, we know, Memphis has been a lock since the day they joined the BEAST, which was after how many attempts?

The beast. Lmao. What a collection of suck ass football schools. Thank god that abomination fell apart. All that beast money and we still kick you little varmit butts. Post less. Beast. Lmao. No ranked schools, no big bowls. Im so glad that shitshow is dead. We wanted bcs status. Heck the beast couldnt keep that and their former schools now languish in obscurity.

Hey freaking moron, WVA and louisville both won big bowl games in the BEAST. Miami won national championships, you have to be the most butt hurt person on here about the BEAST. Still sore that Memphis could never get in? Sour grapes and all.

I noticed your responses are harsh and vulgar. You should maybe try some Tai Chi. Might I also suggest sculpting a Bonsai tree. I would like to see a gentler, more relaxed approach moving forward. Don't clench your teeth when you type.

PS: Citing Miami Fl is worthless. They were not in the Big East when UC was.

Tai chi. I dont eat that spicy stuff. Makes me burp

(06-01-2016 11:41 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 11:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:58 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:51 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The beast. Lmao. What a collection of suck ass football schools. Thank god that abomination fell apart. All that beast money and we still kick you little varmit butts. Post less. Beast. Lmao. No ranked schools, no big bowls. Im so glad that shitshow is dead. We wanted bcs status. Heck the beast couldnt keep that and their former schools now languish in obscurity.

Hey freaking moron, WVA and louisville both won big bowl games in the BEAST. Miami won national championships, you have to be the most butt hurt person on here about the BEAST. Still sore that Memphis could never get in? Sour grapes and all.

I noticed your responses are harsh and vulgar. You should maybe try some Tai Chi. Might I also suggest sculpting a Bonsai tree. I would like to see a gentler, more relaxed approach moving forward. Don't clench your teeth when you type.

PS: Citing Miami Fl is worthless. They were not in the Big East when UC was.

Tai chi. I dont eat that spicy stuff. Makes me burp

lol. I loved that show.

Yall are weird as me. Hard to believe anyone picked up the fred sanford reference in makes me burp. The man was a genius.