http://www.espn.com.au/blog/big12/post/_...t-virginia

I guess it's just another line item to them now, but something to consider for teams thinking of joining faraway leagues.

They are now getting $25 million each year from the Big12. If they were in the AAC...... where they would be without the Big12 invite.....they would be getting $2.5 million. That will cover a lot of travel costs.

They willingly joined the B12 after begging to get in.

No one forced them to join and take on additional travel costs. It was a voluntary acceptance of the B12 offer.

(06-01-2016 11:51 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  They are now getting $25 million each year from the Big12. If they were in the AAC...... where they would be without the Big12 invite.....they would be getting $2.5 million. That will cover a lot of travel costs.

If WVU had stayed in the Big East, the Big East may have stayed together, and may have received more TV dollars.

By the way the AAC distributed around 6-7 million to members last year when counting for all sources (TV revenue, bowl distributions, NCAA tournament credits, etc.)

(06-01-2016 12:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 11:51 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  They are now getting $25 million each year from the Big12. If they were in the AAC...... where they would be without the Big12 invite.....they would be getting $2.5 million. That will cover a lot of travel costs.

If WVU had stayed in the Big East, the Big East may have stayed together, and may have received more TV dollars.

By the way the AAC distributed around 6-7 million to members last year when counting for all sources (TV revenue, bowl distributions, NCAA tournament credits, etc.)

If WVU stays then UL leaves for the Big 12. Someone then leaves the Big East to take Maryland's ACC spot. The Big East still collapses.

WVU has it easy. Hawaii teams take a five-hour minimum flight for every road game in every sport, on a G5 budget.

(06-01-2016 12:09 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 12:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 11:51 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  They are now getting $25 million each year from the Big12. If they were in the AAC...... where they would be without the Big12 invite.....they would be getting $2.5 million. That will cover a lot of travel costs.

If WVU had stayed in the Big East, the Big East may have stayed together, and may have received more TV dollars.

By the way the AAC distributed around 6-7 million to members last year when counting for all sources (TV revenue, bowl distributions, NCAA tournament credits, etc.)

If WVU stays then UL leaves for the Big 12. Someone then leaves the Big East to take Maryland's ACC spot. The Big East still collapses.

My point is that those were still voluntary moves. No one held a gun up to WVU's head and forced them to move. They did it willingly, so can't complain about travel costs.

Both WVU and Louisville could have said no to other leagues. Now it wouldn't have went over very well with their fans, but the could have, along with every other BE team. If they had, the BE would still be a power conference today.

Note: I don't blame them one bit for leaving. It was a good decision. But the fact is, it was voluntary. So whatever additional travel expenses they attained is on them.

If the Big 12 had invited Louisville, then when Maryland had left for the Big Ten the ACC would've added WV.

That would've been the best possible outcome for WV.

(06-01-2016 12:37 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  If the Big 12 had invited Louisville, then when Maryland had left for the Big Ten the ACC would've added WV.

That would've been the best possible outcome for WV.

Not so sure they would have added them anyway. Long history of not being acceptable to the ACC.

Uconn has it a lot worse in the AAC

(06-01-2016 12:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 11:51 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  They are now getting $25 million each year from the Big12. If they were in the AAC...... where they would be without the Big12 invite.....they would be getting $2.5 million. That will cover a lot of travel costs.

If WVU had stayed in the Big East, the Big East may have stayed together, and may have received more TV dollars.

By the way the AAC distributed around 6-7 million to members last year when counting for all sources (TV revenue, bowl distributions, NCAA tournament credits, etc.)

Well if you add those sources for the AAC you have to add then for the Big12 also. The point is they are making a whole lot more money in the Big12...even if the BigEast had survived ...which I highly doubt would have happened.

So anyway you slice it they are making a LOT more money and can afford the travel cost.

(06-01-2016 12:37 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  If the Big 12 had invited Louisville, then when Maryland had left for the Big Ten the ACC would've added WV.

That would've been the best possible outcome for WV.

A more likely scenario that could have happened would have been for the B12 to have invited both Louisville and West Virginia, and not TCU. Then, when faced with their current expansion decision, TCU would still be on the table, leaving only one more seat to fill.

In that case, it would have been the ACC with the rock and a hard place choice when Maryland left.

Why is every Big XII and/or West Virginia thread started by a Louisville fan? For a fan base that always says they moved on after the XII rejected them and the ACC is the best thing that ever happened, they sure are obsessed with the team that got selected to the conference that rejected them. Either they're obsessed and butthurt or they know if the ACC collapses onde the SEC and B1G raids them and the XII gets the leftovers, they won't be as lucky next time and will be out of the cartel like UConn, Cincinnati and South Florida.

(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)bluesox Wrote:  Uconn has it a lot worse in the AAC

If UConn has to travel to Dallas, Houston, Tulsa, Memphis and New Orleans, I don't see the issue with West Virginia which makes 10x the money from the conference payouts than UConn does.

(06-01-2016 04:42 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why is every Big XII and/or West Virginia thread started by a Louisville fan? For a fan base that always says they moved on after the XII rejected them and the ACC is the best thing that ever happened, they sure are obsessed with the team that got selected to the conference that rejected them. Either they're obsessed and butthurt or they know if the ACC collapses onde the SEC and B1G raids them and the XII gets the leftovers, they won't be as lucky next time and will be out of the cartel like UConn, Cincinnati and South Florida.

First of all I post links for articles I find interesting. I don't give a **** who the program is they are about. If you notice I generally don't comment about ANY of the links I post. The rest of your post is too much nonsense to read.
CJ

(06-01-2016 12:18 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 12:09 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 12:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 11:51 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  They are now getting $25 million each year from the Big12. If they were in the AAC...... where they would be without the Big12 invite.....they would be getting $2.5 million. That will cover a lot of travel costs.

If WVU had stayed in the Big East, the Big East may have stayed together, and may have received more TV dollars.

By the way the AAC distributed around 6-7 million to members last year when counting for all sources (TV revenue, bowl distributions, NCAA tournament credits, etc.)

If WVU stays then UL leaves for the Big 12. Someone then leaves the Big East to take Maryland's ACC spot. The Big East still collapses.

My point is that those were still voluntary moves. No one held a gun up to WVU's head and forced them to move. They did it willingly, so can't complain about travel costs.

Both WVU and Louisville could have said no to other leagues. Now it wouldn't have went over very well with their fans, but the could have, along with every other BE team. If they had, the BE would still be a power conference today.

Note: I don't blame them one bit for leaving. It was a good decision. But the fact is, it was voluntary. So whatever additional travel expenses they attained is on them.

I guess if the building you are in is on fire, you could decide to stay in it instead of taking the nearest exit. But, I would argue that, if you chose to leave, it wasn't totally voluntarily.

This article is blatantly unfair to WVU. Oliver Luck had no choice but to pursue and accept the invite when offered by The Big 12. If WVU hadn't Louisville would have.

Luck had no way of knowing that Maryland would jump to The Big Ten and create an ACC opening. WVU took The Big 12 invite knowing that travel was going to be difficult.

Louisville was next in line for The Big 12 when Maryland left The ACC. Exactly where Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston, UConn, BYU and others are now.

The Big 12 made a serious tactical error not taking Louisville, Cincinnati and Memphis when they invited WVU.
CJ

Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 10m10 minutes ago Irving, TX
Perrin: "I think the Big 12 doesn't have to do anything right now."
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 12m12 minutes ago Irving, TX
Perrin: "If there was a move, it'd have to keep us whole" (Translation: It might take more than $15M/yr for Texas to give up Longhorn Net)
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 15m15 minutes ago Irving, TX
@AeroApe51 He just keeps saying the league in good shape.
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 16m16 minutes ago Irving, TX
Mike Perrin: "The whole Big 12 league situation is really good."
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 17m17 minutes ago Irving, TX
Perrin: "We're well situated locale-wise. We're well situated time zone-wise."
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 18m18 minutes ago Irving, TX
Perrin's comments that he does not want expansion is not insignificant.
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 20m20 minutes ago Irving, TX
Mike Perrin: "I personally would like to stay where we are."
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 21m21 minutes ago Irving, TX
Mike Perrin now asked about Longhorn Network: "You have to look at branding. There are lot of factors with the LN that go beyond money."
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 22m22 minutes ago Irving, TX
Mike Perrin said he won't talk about candidates
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 22m22 minutes ago Irving, TX
Mike Perrin asked if expand now, limit options in future? "Possibly."
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Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 23m23 minutes ago Irving, TX
Texas AD Mike Perrin now up. "I'm personally not for expansion for expansion sake."

(06-01-2016 06:46 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  This article is blatantly unfair to WVU. Oliver Luck had no choice but to pursue and accept the invite when offered by The Big 12. If WVU hadn't Louisville would have.

Luck had no way of knowing that Maryland would jump to The Big Ten and create an ACC opening. WVU took The Big 12 invite knowing that travel was going to be difficult.

Louisville was next in line for The Big 12 when Maryland left The ACC. Exactly where Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston, UConn, BYU and others are now.

The Big 12 made a serious tactical error not taking Louisville, Cincinnati and Memphis when they invited WVU.
CJ

Well put, agreed