(05-31-2016 09:32 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Chuck confirmed it takes a super majority

http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdf...Bylaws.pdf

To make things even more difficult, they defined supermajority as 75%. All it takes is three "no" votes to block expansion.

(05-31-2016 11:06 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 09:52 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 07:03 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 06:49 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  All of these expansion threads need to start the title with "Opinion:".

Chip Brown is stating it as fact not his opinion, and said it's based on Big 12 sources.

Could he be wrong, sure. Who hasn't been.

If Brett McM said the same thing would you call it an opinion.

EDIT: I changed thread title to reflect the info was from Chip Brown.

Yes.

Chip Brown or this latest article. hmmmmmmm

They're all opinions from "writers" with "sources". Reporters are (mostly) good at reporting events that have happened, not predicting things like conference realignment. I'm not believing anything in the media until something comes official from a school or conference.

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Oh wow you're so insightful.

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

(06-01-2016 02:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

How does this translate to money for c-usa exactly? You can have your draft picks.... If less draft picks means being in a conference that pays its teams more than 250k a year ill take that any day. BTW Houston had 3 draft picks and the highest G5 pick in the draft. Its pretty sad when the only thing you can brag about is having more draft picks (which you had to skew so it doesn't really count), and how many teams went to baseball regionals lol.

The AAC is going to pay $8 mil per team, is a power in basketball, is easily the best football conference, and quickly rising in baseball. How high in the rankings has a c-usa team ever finished again as far as football?

(06-01-2016 02:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

Wow, that is neat. I am pretty sure NGAF and could not name 3 schools from CUSA or the BELT. Congrats. Not sure who posts what on what board, do not care. Congrats on the baseball thing, good stuff right there, should be able to leverage that into a few hundred more dollars of your TV contract that no one cares enough about to watch.

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Your school has contributed to a once respectful conference losing both its good name and it's value. TV folks simply do not want LA Tech on the air but you can come over here and throw stones. Wow,pot meet kettle.

Where is greenwave 16 when you need him to burn an annoying la tech fan?

(05-31-2016 09:30 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  There goes the expansion is dead narrative.

To be fair, Brown said 'this year', and if they aren't even going to vote until late summer, that's a pretty logical conclusion.

(06-01-2016 02:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

You realize we only have 9 baseball members right?

(06-01-2016 05:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 02:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

You realize we only have 9 baseball members right?

*8

Baseball teams in regionals:

American: 3 of 8 (38%)
C-USA: 4 of 12 (33%)

As an aside, Navy, who does not play baseball in the American, also made a regional.

It's dead till Texas decides it's not dead. Any other school saying any other opinion means as much as posters on this board. When I hear someone associated with Texas talk about expanding seriously I'll take note. Otherwise it's all just offseason fodder.

(06-01-2016 02:26 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 02:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

How does this translate to money for c-usa exactly? You can have your draft picks.... If less draft picks means being in a conference that pays its teams more than 250k a year ill take that any day. BTW Houston had 3 draft picks and the highest G5 pick in the draft. Its pretty sad when the only thing you can brag about is having more draft picks (which you had to skew so it doesn't really count), and how many teams went to baseball regionals lol.

The AAC is going to pay $8 mil per team, is a power in basketball, is easily the best football conference, and quickly rising in baseball. How high in the rankings has a c-usa team ever finished again as far as football?

Actually we, Tulane finished SEVENTH in the country in 1998.

The B-12 will wait to find out what the fate of the Baylor is. If they get severely hammered and will be down a while, they will make adjustments to their plan. That's what I'm hearing anyway. The B-12 can't have another diluted team with only 10. Adding Cincy, and UConn doesn't help with the Baylor dilution. It helps with a 12 team conference and a Championship game but doesn't do much to the strength of schedule.

(06-01-2016 07:45 AM)billetingman1 Wrote:  The B-12 will wait to find out what the fate of the Baylor is. If they get severely hammered and will be down a while, they will make adjustments to their plan. That's what I'm hearing anyway. The B-12 can't have another diluted team with only 10. Adding Cincy, and UConn doesn't help with the Baylor dilution. It helps with a 12 team conference and a Championship game but doesn't do much to the strength of schedule.

I mean they can have a championship game right now without adding teams that will likely command another 20-25 million for the league. And it always cracks me up when you read the articles that say the big 12 is last when all the other leagues are inclusive of the their third tier rights and the Big 12 just represents Tier 1 and 2. The are actually well ahead of most at the moment. Will that stay the same with the current configuration? probably not but lets at least present the facts accurately.

(06-01-2016 02:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 01:12 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 11:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  From day 1 I said it wasn't going to happen. Texas is not going to budge an iota from the LHN and as many Big 12 school Boards members have said none of the schools from the AAC add any value to the conference. Only team(s) I see moving in the future when the LHN expires would be BYU and possibly Cincy.

It has been fun sitting back reading some of these delusional threads though

Anything has to be better than being a no name in a no name conference right? Glad you have found something to do rather than counting the hundreds of dollars from the Belts media deal. Or was it CUSA? Who cares really? no one could tell them apart anyway as they are all completely irrelevant.

Sure just like the AAC schools according to the Big 12 school's Board of Regents. The 1 time I come over to this board since CUSA board is bombarded by AAC fans, all I see are threads about the Big 12 (never was going to happen) and CUSA TV Contract.

This is not CUSA vs AAC thread but CUSA just had the most players (11) drafted out the G5 conferences. Coincidentally Louisiana Tech had 3 players drafted including a 1st rounder while the Sunbelt had 3 players total. BTW CUSA just sent 4 teams to the NCAA Baseball Regionals. How many team did the AAC send?

If you want to spread false info on the CUSA board, be my guest, but don't come on AAC board and lie about how many draft picks CUSA had. CUSA and AAC each had 10 draft picks. You're counting a former UAB player, who actually played for and got drafted out of Indiana this past year. UAB did not have a team. People transfer all the time, regardless of the reason, and they are always counted for the last team/conf. they played for. Sorry UAB's program shut down, but the fact is, he played for Indiana last year.

Part of the problem with the Big12 as its situated now is that adding a championship game has the potential to hurt them as much or more than it helps them. It may be in their CFB playoff interest to go to 12 even without the network.

With 10 members they currently play 9 conference games so your championship game becomes a rematch game. Say Oklahoma finishes the regular season at 11-1 with its only loss being an OOC game and they are playing TCU in the championship game who is 10-2 with an OOC loss and a loss to Oklahoma. If TCU beats OK both end up at 11-2 and most likely neither make the playoff. At 11-1 OK most likely gets the spot in the final 4.

IMO the yes or no decision to hold a championship game will be the driving factor to adding 2 more members, as much or maybe even more than a network. Last season proved the Big12 can make the playoff without a championship game.

(06-01-2016 09:50 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  Part of the problem with the Big12 as its situated now is that adding a championship game has the potential to hurt them as much or more than it helps them. It may be in their CFB playoff interest to go to 12 even without the network.

With 10 members they currently play 9 conference games so your championship game becomes a rematch game. Say Oklahoma finishes the regular season at 11-1 with its only loss being an OOC game and they are playing TCU in the championship game who is 10-2 with an OOC loss and a loss to Oklahoma. If TCU beats OK both end up at 11-2 and most likely neither make the playoff. At 11-1 OK most likely gets the spot in the final 4.

IMO the yes or no decision to hold a championship game will be the driving factor to adding 2 more members, as much or maybe even more than a network. Last season proved the Big12 can make the playoff without a championship game.

I honestly think it is a toss up. In 2014 they had two 11-1 teams and that extra game could have vaulted them in potentially. Now I know it was them or Ohio State so more than likely Ohio State still gets in but TCU was ranked ahead of them going into Championship weekend. Had TCU played Baylor and beat them convincingly would they really have moved them down?? So I honestly think it would be neutral to them qualifying but it would add 20-25 million a team and at least align them with what other leagues are doing. I mean all the other leagues have the same potential that an 11-1 or 12-0 team gets knocked out if they lose as well so it really isn't any different.