(05-27-2016 03:43 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN reported ACC revenue today [LINK].

ACC
Total revenue: $403 million*
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: n/a
Distribution per school: $26.2 million
* includes $31 million exit fee from Maryland

This was for 2014/2015. The number is inflated compared to what we would normally expect by the Maryland fee, which boosted per team revenue by more than $2 million, and also because the Orange Bowl wasn't a playoff, so the ACC collected $28 million for that.

In contrast, both the SEC and B1G distributed more than $32m per school that year, despite not getting the $40 million each would have gotten from the Sugar and Rose bowls, because those were playoff games that year. The PAC and Big 12 didn't get their $40 million either. All got that money this past year.

For 2015-2016, neither of those factors are present, so expect ACC revenue to be down by about $55 million compared to 2014-2016. That's about $4 million per school. And, the other four P5 all will be boosted by $40 million. All of that will sink the ACC back down the Power 5 distribution chart, so expect more grumbling from FSU and Clemson, who know they are in a structurally inferior position financially.

(05-28-2016 07:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:43 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN reported ACC revenue today [LINK].

ACC
Total revenue: $403 million*
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: n/a
Distribution per school: $26.2 million
* includes $31 million exit fee from Maryland

This was for 2014/2015. The number is inflated compared to what we would normally expect by the Maryland fee, which boosted per team revenue by more than $2 million, and also because the Orange Bowl wasn't a playoff, so the ACC collected $28 million for that.

In contrast, both the SEC and B1G distributed more than $32m per school that year, despite not getting the $40 million each would have gotten from the Sugar and Rose bowls, because those were playoff games that year. The PAC and Big 12 didn't get their $40 million either. All got that money this past year.

For 2015-2016, neither of those factors are present, so expect ACC revenue to be down by about $55 million compared to 2014-2016. That's about $4 million per school. And, the other four P5 all will be boosted by $40 million. All of that will sink the ACC back down the Power 5 distribution chart, so expect more grumbling from FSU and Clemson, who know they are in a structurally inferior position financially.

We will see...still in line with what the Pac 12 and Big XII is making and next year will also show the record amount they made from the NCAA Basketball Tournament and the $45 Million ESPN Look-In due to no ACC Network...but the 2014-2015 Numbers are what they are...

(05-28-2016 05:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 11:00 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:43 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN reported ACC revenue today [LINK].

ACC
Total revenue: $403 million*
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: n/a
Distribution per school: $26.2 million
* includes $31 million exit fee from Maryland

They keep saying B1G paid over $30 million to its schools, ignoring that 3 of the 14 made less. Average was $29.3.

No, you are trying to manipulate the data. The schools not getting the full amount are not getting full payments yet. The average listed earlier in the thread is the correct amount.

"bullet" is correct - at least in terms of what most people understand when you use the term "average", they are referring to arithmetic average (sum of all parts divided by the number of parts). Using that method, the Big Ten payout is apparently $29.3 million.

It sounds like you are using the mode, or most common amount, as the "average". The mode of the payments may have been $32 million. That's just NOT what most people mean by "average".

I've found over the years that much of the differences between these conference payouts is just a matter of terminology. Once you get it all on an "apples to apples" basis, they payouts are quite similar - and certainly not enough of a difference to justify the outlandish bragging that we often read.

No, you don't understand how the distribution works for the B1G. spend some time reading up on the arrangements for the new schools and how the money is distributed/invested.

The payout is what was reported earlier in the thread.

(05-19-2016 10:12 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  P5 conference revenue comparisons. (The ACC was conveniently omitted).

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...5585937500

SEC
Total revenue: $527.4 million
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: 86.8
Distribution per school: $32.7 million
(Note: The revenue includes only nine months of income from the SEC Network.)

Big Ten
Total revenue: NA
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: NA
Distribution per school: $32 million
(Note: Conference finances have not been disclosed. The per-school distribution figure cited above is based on public records request by the Lafayette Journal Courier.)

Pac-12
Total revenue: $439 million
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: 68.5 (see expenses section below)
Distribution per school: 25.1 million

Big 12
Total revenue: $267.8 million
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: 88
Distribution per school (continuing members): $23.3 million
(Note: Distributions do not include the Tier 3 rights, which have not been pooled and remain owned by the schools — The Longhorn Network, for example. In some cases, the per-school income is higher than that of the Pac-12 average when T3 rights are included.)

CBS Sports take on the OP:

The Power Five combined for nearly $2.1 billion in revenue during 2014-15, up nearly $520 million from the previous year. The total, which amounted to roughly a 33 percent increase, can now be calculated after the ACC released its 2014-15 tax return on Friday.

While the NCAA defends amateurism in court, revenue generated by the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 and Big 12 more than doubled over a four-year period. The Power Five took in a little more than $1 billion in 2010-11 and reached $2.1 billion in 2014-15. Last year was the first season with the College Football Playoff, the SEC Network, some revised TV money due to expansion, and new bowl agreements.

Each conference's approximate 2014-15 payouts per school: SEC $32.7 million, Big Ten $32.4 million, ACC $27 million, Pac-12 $25.1 million, Big 12 $23.3 million.
The ACC reported $403 million in revenue, up nearly $100 million from a year earlier. That's in part due to a $31 million exit fee Maryland paid to leave the ACC.

The tax return shows the ACC distributed an average of $26.2 million per full member. (Notre Dame received about $6.2 million.) The payouts for full members ranged from $27.6 million for to about $24 million for Syracuse. The ACC provided about another $800,000 per school for championship reimbursements not reflected in the distribution.

Conference commissioner pay in 2014-15: Pac-12's Larry Scott $4 million, SEC's Mike Slive $3.6 million, ACC's John Swofford $2.7 million, Big Ten's Jim Delany $2.6 million, Big 12's Bob Bowlsby $2.6 million.

Swofford was credited with about a $600,000 raise from a year earlier. His base salary in 2014-15 was $2,618,543.

The ACC spent about $2.2 million in legal fees last year, with $1.75 million paid to Smith Moore Leatherwood LLP in Greensboro, , and $451,000 on Appel Law LLC in Atlanta. The total legal fees were down about $100,000 from 2013-14.

The conference spent $625,000 on Wasserman Media Group, which is exploring the possibility of an ACC Network with ESPN. Swofford told reporters this month that the ACC remains in "quality discussions" with ESPN. Swofford would not comment on a report that ESPN must pay the ACC $45 million if an ACC Network is not in place by July 1.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...n-one-year

(05-28-2016 08:47 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 05:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 11:00 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:43 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN reported ACC revenue today [LINK].

ACC
Total revenue: $403 million*
Percentage of revenue distributed to schools: n/a
Distribution per school: $26.2 million
* includes $31 million exit fee from Maryland

They keep saying B1G paid over $30 million to its schools, ignoring that 3 of the 14 made less. Average was $29.3.

No, you are trying to manipulate the data. The schools not getting the full amount are not getting full payments yet. The average listed earlier in the thread is the correct amount.

"bullet" is correct - at least in terms of what most people understand when you use the term "average", they are referring to arithmetic average (sum of all parts divided by the number of parts). Using that method, the Big Ten payout is apparently $29.3 million.

It sounds like you are using the mode, or most common amount, as the "average". The mode of the payments may have been $32 million. That's just NOT what most people mean by "average".

I've found over the years that much of the differences between these conference payouts is just a matter of terminology. Once you get it all on an "apples to apples" basis, they payouts are quite similar - and certainly not enough of a difference to justify the outlandish bragging that we often read.

No, you don't understand how the distribution works for the B1G. spend some time reading up on the arrangements for the new schools and how the money is distributed/invested.

The payout is what was reported earlier in the thread.

Nebraska, isn't the money being withheld from Nebraska, Maryland & Rutgers being used as payment for those 3 schools shares into the B1GN? So basically instead of receiving a $ amount they are receiving an ownership share of the B1GN?

Wvu and Big 12 fans keep bringing up the $31 million in exit fees from Maryland. They really ignore the Big 12 could have been owed up to $100 million in exit fees by the departure of Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri and Texas a&m. They settled for less but still collected $38M. They didn't donate that money to charity. It's been distributed by the conference and the fans brag about their disbursements every May and don't exclude it. They just are clueless that it's probably a part of it

(05-28-2016 03:02 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Wvu and Big 12 fans keep bringing up the $31 million in exit fees from Maryland. They really ignore the Big 12 could have been owed up to $100 million in exit fees by the departure of Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri and Texas a&m. They settled for less but still collected $38M. They didn't donate that money to charity. It's been distributed by the conference and the fans brag about their disbursements every May and don't exclude it. They just are clueless that it's probably a part of it

You forgot that neither are getting full shares...Louisville didn't have to do a "Buy In" when they joined the ACC

(05-28-2016 01:07 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:47 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 05:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 11:00 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  They keep saying B1G paid over $30 million to its schools, ignoring that 3 of the 14 made less. Average was $29.3.

No, you are trying to manipulate the data. The schools not getting the full amount are not getting full payments yet. The average listed earlier in the thread is the correct amount.

"bullet" is correct - at least in terms of what most people understand when you use the term "average", they are referring to arithmetic average (sum of all parts divided by the number of parts). Using that method, the Big Ten payout is apparently $29.3 million.

It sounds like you are using the mode, or most common amount, as the "average". The mode of the payments may have been $32 million. That's just NOT what most people mean by "average".

I've found over the years that much of the differences between these conference payouts is just a matter of terminology. Once you get it all on an "apples to apples" basis, they payouts are quite similar - and certainly not enough of a difference to justify the outlandish bragging that we often read.

No, you don't understand how the distribution works for the B1G. spend some time reading up on the arrangements for the new schools and how the money is distributed/invested.

The payout is what was reported earlier in the thread.

Nebraska, isn't the money being withheld from Nebraska, Maryland & Rutgers being used as payment for those 3 schools shares into the B1GN? So basically instead of receiving a $ amount they are receiving an ownership share of the B1GN?

That's correct.

(05-28-2016 03:44 PM)Maize Wrote:  You forgot that neither are getting full shares...Louisville didn't have to do a "Buy In" when they joined the ACC

I'm not talking about the buy-in. I'm talking about TBone and the gang on the WVU Scout Big12 board trying to minimize the gain in ACC revenue because of the Maryland exit fees. They as a conference have distributed exit fees from 4 teams leaving recently and no one ever brought it up as a negative. Missouri and Texas A&M paid about $13M a piece and Nebraska and Colorado got out for less than $10M a piece.

Knowing the Big 12, I'm sure west Virginia and TCU didn't get a penny of it.

(05-28-2016 04:06 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Knowing the Big 12, I'm sure west Virginia and TCU didn't get a penny of it.

Do you think WVU and TCU should get a share of it?

(05-28-2016 04:24 PM)Johnny Incognito Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 04:06 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Knowing the Big 12, I'm sure west Virginia and TCU didn't get a penny of it.

Do you think WVU and TCU should get a share of it?

I wouldn't have thought Louisville would have received any Maryland money but apparently they did. Probably Notre Dame too.