(05-28-2016 08:41 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  If Baylor goes down the Big 12 loses the 3rd most profitable athletic department in the conference. They lose consistent post season money from multiple sports. I would say they would stand to lose quite a bit if Baylor is booted.

Never seen the affluenza defense used for accesory to rape before.

(05-28-2016 08:41 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 07:48 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  I think Baylor could get the death penalty here. Considering the murder coverup and now this.

As jaded as this sounds Penn State didnt get it because of the number if fans they have and their rich history. Also theyre the dominant program in a pretty large geographical area.

Baylor is much like SMU was. Tiny fanbase in an area saturated by other big time programs / fanbases. Wbat does the Big12 really lose if Baylor goes down? Not much.

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Baylor is not getting nor do they deserve the Death Penalty. Not happening. To say that Penn State didn't get it due to their fan size is just as bad as me saying Baylor got left out of the playoffs because our fan base was too small and Ohio State would sell more tickets. Also, Baylor has been the dominant program in a pretty large geographical area for the last couple years.

As for the alleged murder cover-up, that never happened. No one covered up a murder or even tried to cover it up. A murder took place and a sh!tty coach attempted to cover up his improper tuition payments for the deceased and tried to frame him as a drug dealer. He also tried to cover up numerous failed drug tests. The murder was a dark day for Baylor and one no one could have predicted would happen.

If Baylor goes down the Big 12 loses the 3rd most profitable athletic department in the conference. They lose consistent post season money from multiple sports. I would say they would stand to lose quite a bit if Baylor is booted.

I beg to differ, but Baylor will get the death penalty. A self-imposed death penalty. With all the rape cover ups that are coming to light, prospects are going to avoid Baylor for a while, so will coaches.

Baylor is going to take a goooood while to recover from this.

The Big 12 is not going to hurt from your lack of talent, matter of fact, they will be glad to have their doormat back and better get used to it.

And for you to say they do not deserve the death penalty just shows how messed up the program is; from top to bottom.

(05-28-2016 09:52 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:41 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  If Baylor goes down the Big 12 loses the 3rd most profitable athletic department in the conference. They lose consistent post season money from multiple sports. I would say they would stand to lose quite a bit if Baylor is booted.

Never seen the affluenza defense used for accesory to rape before.

Say what you want, but why would the Big 12 boot out Baylor just because of the football team when they can still make money from the MBB, WBB, Baseball, Softball, etc.? The poster stated that the Big 12 wouldn't lose anything by booting Baylor and I just proved that they would. I'm not excusing rape nor am I willing to say that the entire team is full of rapists. There were 8 individuals over 8 years that were accused with 2 of them convicted in a court of law. There are hundreds in that same time span that have been amazing student athletes that any school would be proud to have as evidenced by the number of fans on this forum and other forums hoping that the team will be dismantled so they can pick up the star players and recruits that Baylor has currently.

(05-28-2016 09:52 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:41 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  If Baylor goes down the Big 12 loses the 3rd most profitable athletic department in the conference. They lose consistent post season money from multiple sports. I would say they would stand to lose quite a bit if Baylor is booted.

Never seen the affluenza defense used for accesory to rape before.

Neither have I. Homedude's off his rocker.

(05-28-2016 10:03 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 09:52 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:41 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  If Baylor goes down the Big 12 loses the 3rd most profitable athletic department in the conference. They lose consistent post season money from multiple sports. I would say they would stand to lose quite a bit if Baylor is booted.

Never seen the affluenza defense used for accesory to rape before.

Say what you want, but why would the Big 12 boot out Baylor just because of the football team when they can still make money from the MBB, WBB, Baseball, Softball, etc.? The poster stated that the Big 12 wouldn't lose anything by booting Baylor and I just proved that they would. I'm not excusing rape nor am I willing to say that the entire team is full of rapists. There were 8 individuals over 8 years that were accused with 2 of them convicted in a court of law. There are hundreds in that same time span that have been amazing student athletes that any school would be proud to have as evidenced by the number of fans on this forum and other forums hoping that the team will be dismantled so they can pick up the star players and recruits that Baylor has currently.

We are saying what we want and I am saying that Baylor has just seen the beginning of their own apocalypse.

(05-28-2016 08:24 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 07:22 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 04:26 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:21 PM)bullet Wrote:  Well Louisville did pay the women to have sex with recruits instead of having a few individual players rape women. So it was organized by the coaches and voluntary. And included illegal acts by coaches, which it isn't certain Baylor's coaches did anything illegal, just unethical.

You're right. Baylor's was callous disregard. Louisville's was intentional and worse than Baylor.

Louisville was intentional and worse than Baylor WHERE PEOPLE WERE BEING RAPED, AND IT WAS BEING COVERED UP TO PROTECT THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

Ok, that's the absolute stupidest ******* post on the entire message board right there. CLEARLY you're a troll and a god damned moron. Welcome to the ignore list.

The trolls are the AAC fans and the spurned UL fans.

Briles is a scumbag. So is Petrino. No other major school would touch Petrino despite what a good fb coach he was.

I gotta side with "Rabbit" here. In their drive to be a major athletic power, UofL has shown itself to be willing to get into the muck with low-life coaches and stoop to scum activities like sex parties for recruits.

But still, that in no way shape or form is equivalent to Baylor covering up rapes. Or covering up murder, like they did with basketball 10+ years ago. It just isn't in the same league.

What we did was terrible-(Louisville) and I'm one of the Louisville ppl that would not shed a tear if Pitino was gone...but what happened at Baylor-(This Century) is mind blowing...I would put what happened at Baylor even worse than what happened at Penn State.

What Bliss did was awful. This scandal isn't as bad as that one.

(05-28-2016 12:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:24 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I gotta side with "Rabbit" here. In their drive to be a major athletic power, UofL has shown itself to be willing to get into the muck with low-life coaches and stoop to scum activities like sex parties for recruits.

But still, that in no way shape or form is equivalent to Baylor covering up rapes. Or covering up murder, like they did with basketball 10+ years ago. It just isn't in the same league.

What we did was terrible-(Louisville) and I'm one of the Louisville ppl that would not shed a tear if Pitino was gone...but what happened at Baylor-(This Century) is mind blowing...I would put what happened at Baylor even worse than what happened at Penn State.

It's definitely a close call. Child rape is hard to trump, though.

Beyond that, looking at these situations, and throwing Ole Miss in there too, there does seem to be a common theme: When a school that historically hasn't won much suddenly rises to BCS-bowl winning level, you gotta wonder about how it happened.

Down here in the deep southwest part of the SEC, there was plenty of buzz from LSU and Alabama people the last few years stunned that they were suddenly losing some 4 and 5 star recruits to Ole Miss. That just never happened, and then it started happening. There would be woofing between LSU and Alabama about which one some star recruit was going to pick, and then on selection day he'd put on an Ole Miss hat, and then both the Tide fans and Tigers fans would look at each other like "WTF"?

I seriously doubt there are many football fans - including Ole Miss fans - who didn't assume that the Rebels recruiting success was accomplished without some major cheating. And, despite the large number of examples cited in the Notice of Allegations, I think most of those fans would likely agree that the NCAA didn't find the mother lode of violations.

But when you come down to it, I'm sure that many football fans not in SEC territory also assume that Ole Miss got those recruits by outbidding their SEC competitors. Whatever they did, it must have been pretty over the top for their fellow SEC schools to blow the whistle on them.

Baylor's situation may be different. It's possible that they got their edge, not by offering major illegal inducements, but simply by taking players whose character would keep them out of most B12 competitors. And few fans would accuse the Big 12 (or any FBS conference) of stacking their rosters with choir boys.

Total B.S. Bullet. Ole Miss was nabbed because their moron recruits posted their inducements on line. I don't need a Longhorn fan feigning their integrity and the superiority of the morality of the Big 12 after they were up to their eyeballs in turning in the SMU program for providing hookers and coeds for inducements for players in the old SWC or to tell us that Baylor's sudden rise was any cleaner's than Ole Miss's. The SEC has always dealt with payola, but never the level of scum and corruption illustrated first by SMU and now Baylor. Louisville's basketball program is fair game. Petrino is a douche but it's infidelity with an of age person and that is not the same as ignoring rape, covering up rape, or as awful as what happened at SMU in the 80's.

The reality is that all major sports programs have some severe issues. But, not all have institutional cover for them. SMU did, Baylor did, North Carolina does, but I'm not sure the case against Louisville's basketball issues go above the head coach or perhaps the A.D.

Just stop your crusade to spin the Big 12. It's totally indefensible at this point with regard to Baylor. And listening to you pursue this just lowers my high opinion of you.

You're the one who is defensive and full of BS JR.
#1 Its not my post you are responding too!
#2 Cam Newton's Dads church sure found a lot of money after he shopped Cam around. And it didn't come from Mississippi St.
#3 Auburn keeps getting QBs who were kicked out of other SEC schools.
#4 You know good and well how high Auburn is on the all-time major violations list. I believe they are tied with SMU, just behind #1 Arizona St.
#5 My own UK got caught sending money by Emery Air Freight (although Sutton still claims it was a setup).

As for Louisville, its the prostitutes that is the big issue, along with hiring someone nobody else would touch. As for Petrino, its all the stuff in addition to the cheating.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...l-timeline

"It's later discovered that his passenger on the bike was a 25-year-old former Arkansas volleyball player and current football team assistant with whom he was having an affair. He'd hired her (possibly illegally) over several far more qualified candidates.

Petrino attempts to hide the assistant's presence at the crash, asking a witness not to call 911. Arkansas eventually releases a statement saying Petrino was alone in the crash."

So he effectively put his mistress on the Arkansas payroll and lied about the accident. That goes far beyond Pitino's case, which is more just the embarrassment.

Several Louisville fans are just getting on their high horse here and need a dose of reality as to what their school did and has done.

As for Baylor, I'm not defending Briles. But I have yet to hear of the police department or the administration beyond the athletic department covering things up and discouraging victims from pressing charges. With Penn St. with Sandusky and Montana and FSU with their rape scandals, it did go up to the top and did involve the police departments or officials of the department.

Baylor has long taken academic risks. It appears Briles took character risks and then made allowances even after they arrived.

Baylor is not going to get the Death Penalty and the idea of Baylor getting the Death Penalty over this is absurd. Had the Brian Dennehy case happened at around the same time I could begin to fathom it but come on now, it's not that serious plus criminal law and matters is generally outside the NCAA's jurisdiction.

The real penalties need to be Art Briles being banned from coaching, even if that's just a silent agreement among AD's and presidents. The AD could be barred from geting a job at the collegiate level and Ken Starr could be banned from being a president or high ranking college/university official by whatever body he answers to. Go after the people responsible, don't harm those who had nothing to do with it, who are the new coach, future players and students.

(05-29-2016 01:29 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Baylor is not going to get the Death Penalty and the idea of Baylor getting the Death Penalty over this is absurd. Had the Brian Dennehy case happened at around the same time I could begin to fathom it but come on now, it's not that serious plus criminal law and matters is generally outside the NCAA's jurisdiction.

The real penalties need to be Art Briles being banned from coaching, even if that's just a silent agreement among AD's and presidents. The AD could be barred from geting a job at the collegiate level and Ken Starr could be banned from being a president or high ranking college/university official by whatever body he answers to. Go after the people responsible, don't harm those who had nothing to do with it, who are the new coach, future players and students.

Actually, you are wrong. The NCAA could give Baylor the death penalty for an out of control athletic department that covered up serious crimes by the players. Many people are still calling for Penn State football to get the death penalty, and they would be calling for Baylor to get it as well. The whole school is at fault, and the football and other sports should be killed because of how they recruit bad people to begin with. Baylor is the worst case of bad judgement in taken these players that other schools may not want.

(05-28-2016 08:41 PM)BaylorFerg Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 07:48 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  I think Baylor could get the death penalty here. Considering the murder coverup and now this.

As jaded as this sounds Penn State didnt get it because of the number if fans they have and their rich history. Also theyre the dominant program in a pretty large geographical area.

Baylor is much like SMU was. Tiny fanbase in an area saturated by other big time programs / fanbases. Wbat does the Big12 really lose if Baylor goes down? Not much.

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Baylor is not getting nor do they deserve the Death Penalty. Not happening. To say that Penn State didn't get it due to their fan size is just as bad as me saying Baylor got left out of the playoffs because our fan base was too small and Ohio State would sell more tickets. Also, Baylor has been the dominant program in a pretty large geographical area for the last couple years.

As for the alleged murder cover-up, that never happened. No one covered up a murder or even tried to cover it up. A murder took place and a sh!tty coach attempted to cover up his improper tuition payments for the deceased and tried to frame him as a drug dealer. He also tried to cover up numerous failed drug tests. The murder was a dark day for Baylor and one no one could have predicted would happen.

If Baylor goes down the Big 12 loses the 3rd most profitable athletic department in the conference. They lose consistent post season money from multiple sports. I would say they would stand to lose quite a bit if Baylor is booted.

So Baylor shares their athletic dept profits with the Big 12?

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(05-29-2016 01:29 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Baylor is not going to get the Death Penalty and the idea of Baylor getting the Death Penalty over this is absurd.

I actually dont think it is. If they dont get it we will see some of the harshest penalties to date.

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The idea that P5 schools individually are all worthy of that moniker is just silly.
P5 programs are P5 because of the conference.
Whether Baylor is P5 is up to the Big 12.
1/2 of the P5 schools aren't power programs in any sense...they just reside in a power conference (and have been fluffed up by association,which would go "poof" if they were put into a non P5 league.

(05-29-2016 12:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 12:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:24 AM)Maize Wrote:  What we did was terrible-(Louisville) and I'm one of the Louisville ppl that would not shed a tear if Pitino was gone...but what happened at Baylor-(This Century) is mind blowing...I would put what happened at Baylor even worse than what happened at Penn State.

It's definitely a close call. Child rape is hard to trump, though.

Beyond that, looking at these situations, and throwing Ole Miss in there too, there does seem to be a common theme: When a school that historically hasn't won much suddenly rises to BCS-bowl winning level, you gotta wonder about how it happened.

Down here in the deep southwest part of the SEC, there was plenty of buzz from LSU and Alabama people the last few years stunned that they were suddenly losing some 4 and 5 star recruits to Ole Miss. That just never happened, and then it started happening. There would be woofing between LSU and Alabama about which one some star recruit was going to pick, and then on selection day he'd put on an Ole Miss hat, and then both the Tide fans and Tigers fans would look at each other like "WTF"?

I seriously doubt there are many football fans - including Ole Miss fans - who didn't assume that the Rebels recruiting success was accomplished without some major cheating. And, despite the large number of examples cited in the Notice of Allegations, I think most of those fans would likely agree that the NCAA didn't find the mother lode of violations.

But when you come down to it, I'm sure that many football fans not in SEC territory also assume that Ole Miss got those recruits by outbidding their SEC competitors. Whatever they did, it must have been pretty over the top for their fellow SEC schools to blow the whistle on them.

Baylor's situation may be different. It's possible that they got their edge, not by offering major illegal inducements, but simply by taking players whose character would keep them out of most B12 competitors. And few fans would accuse the Big 12 (or any FBS conference) of stacking their rosters with choir boys.

Total B.S. Bullet. Ole Miss was nabbed because their moron recruits posted their inducements on line. I don't need a Longhorn fan feigning their integrity and the superiority of the morality of the Big 12 after they were up to their eyeballs in turning in the SMU program for providing hookers and coeds for inducements for players in the old SWC or to tell us that Baylor's sudden rise was any cleaner's than Ole Miss's. The SEC has always dealt with payola, but never the level of scum and corruption illustrated first by SMU and now Baylor. Louisville's basketball program is fair game. Petrino is a douche but it's infidelity with an of age person and that is not the same as ignoring rape, covering up rape, or as awful as what happened at SMU in the 80's.

The reality is that all major sports programs have some severe issues. But, not all have institutional cover for them. SMU did, Baylor did, North Carolina does, but I'm not sure the case against Louisville's basketball issues go above the head coach or perhaps the A.D.

Just stop your crusade to spin the Big 12. It's totally indefensible at this point with regard to Baylor. And listening to you pursue this just lowers my high opinion of you.

You're the one who is defensive and full of BS JR.
#1 Its not my post you are responding too!
#2 Cam Newton's Dads church sure found a lot of money after he shopped Cam around. And it didn't come from Mississippi St.
#3 Auburn keeps getting QBs who were kicked out of other SEC schools.
#4 You know good and well how high Auburn is on the all-time major violations list. I believe they are tied with SMU, just behind #1 Arizona St.
#5 My own UK got caught sending money by Emery Air Freight (although Sutton still claims it was a setup).

As for Louisville, its the prostitutes that is the big issue, along with hiring someone nobody else would touch. As for Petrino, its all the stuff in addition to the cheating.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...l-timeline

"It's later discovered that his passenger on the bike was a 25-year-old former Arkansas volleyball player and current football team assistant with whom he was having an affair. He'd hired her (possibly illegally) over several far more qualified candidates.

Petrino attempts to hide the assistant's presence at the crash, asking a witness not to call 911. Arkansas eventually releases a statement saying Petrino was alone in the crash."

So he effectively put his mistress on the Arkansas payroll and lied about the accident. That goes far beyond Pitino's case, which is more just the embarrassment.

Several Louisville fans are just getting on their high horse here and need a dose of reality as to what their school did and has done.

As for Baylor, I'm not defending Briles. But I have yet to hear of the police department or the administration beyond the athletic department covering things up and discouraging victims from pressing charges. With Penn St. with Sandusky and Montana and FSU with their rape scandals, it did go up to the top and did involve the police departments or officials of the department.

Baylor has long taken academic risks. It appears Briles took character risks and then made allowances even after they arrived.

Bullet, we get it. You're a UK fan & UL is evil personified. Louisville is worse than child molesters & rapists. How funny would it have been if UK would have listened to Joe B Hall & hired Petrino at UK instead of letting him go to WKU?

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/bobby-p...oe-b-hall/

Read the comments at the end of the article & read for yourself how BBN wanted Petrino, immediately after Arkansas.

Until the Mod staff gets this board back under control, and gets rid of the blatant trolls...This is my last post. If I get thrown out with said trolls, hell, I'd even understand! But this board has gone full retard, and I just don't want anything else to do with it anymore. It's all the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over again....and it's just gotten old. Hit me up when there's legitimate change or legitimate news. Until then, it's all chest thumping and trolling.

As to Ole Miss issues: As an SEC fan, I admit that I am probably biased, but at least one of the impressive classes Ole Miss brought in was due to many "legacy" recruits. I didn't think much of that in terms of cheating. Context is everything. Now, obviously, other stuff was going on, but there were legitimate reasons for Ole Miss to be improving.

As to Baylor: What happened was awful and despicable, and part of the fun of these boards is overreacting to events. But the reaction to this event (and calls for Baylor to be kicked out) seem over the top. Rape is no laughing matter and I don't want to minimize it at all, but even the Penn State penalty got lowered. Proof of culture change is obviously needed, and schools everywhere need to work on this issue, but let's not simply be reactionary.

(To note, as it seems to be pertinent, I went to a small Christian college with closed dorms, i.e no guys in girls dorms and no girls in guys dorm except for one night a semester, and even then it ended at curfew at 11. I know my experience was not universal, and I might even believe if something still happened that was never reported, but I appreciate the value of this system. My father taught me growing up to never enter a girls bedroom and I think that is a good policy.)

(05-29-2016 08:46 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Until the Mod staff gets this board back under control, and gets rid of the blatant trolls...This is my last post. If I get thrown out with said trolls, hell, I'd even understand! But this board has gone full retard, and I just don't want anything else to do with it anymore. It's all the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over again....and it's just gotten old. Hit me up when there's legitimate change or legitimate news. Until then, it's all chest thumping and trolling.

You said this already and here you are posting again.

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(05-29-2016 08:46 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Until the Mod staff gets this board back under control, and gets rid of the blatant trolls...This is my last post. If I get thrown out with said trolls, hell, I'd even understand! But this board has gone full retard, and I just don't want anything else to do with it anymore. It's all the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over again....and it's just gotten old. Hit me up when there's legitimate change or legitimate news. Until then, it's all chest thumping and trolling.

Bye Felicia.....

(05-29-2016 08:30 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 12:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 12:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  It's definitely a close call. Child rape is hard to trump, though.

Beyond that, looking at these situations, and throwing Ole Miss in there too, there does seem to be a common theme: When a school that historically hasn't won much suddenly rises to BCS-bowl winning level, you gotta wonder about how it happened.

Down here in the deep southwest part of the SEC, there was plenty of buzz from LSU and Alabama people the last few years stunned that they were suddenly losing some 4 and 5 star recruits to Ole Miss. That just never happened, and then it started happening. There would be woofing between LSU and Alabama about which one some star recruit was going to pick, and then on selection day he'd put on an Ole Miss hat, and then both the Tide fans and Tigers fans would look at each other like "WTF"?

I seriously doubt there are many football fans - including Ole Miss fans - who didn't assume that the Rebels recruiting success was accomplished without some major cheating. And, despite the large number of examples cited in the Notice of Allegations, I think most of those fans would likely agree that the NCAA didn't find the mother lode of violations.

But when you come down to it, I'm sure that many football fans not in SEC territory also assume that Ole Miss got those recruits by outbidding their SEC competitors. Whatever they did, it must have been pretty over the top for their fellow SEC schools to blow the whistle on them.

Baylor's situation may be different. It's possible that they got their edge, not by offering major illegal inducements, but simply by taking players whose character would keep them out of most B12 competitors. And few fans would accuse the Big 12 (or any FBS conference) of stacking their rosters with choir boys.

Total B.S. Bullet. Ole Miss was nabbed because their moron recruits posted their inducements on line. I don't need a Longhorn fan feigning their integrity and the superiority of the morality of the Big 12 after they were up to their eyeballs in turning in the SMU program for providing hookers and coeds for inducements for players in the old SWC or to tell us that Baylor's sudden rise was any cleaner's than Ole Miss's. The SEC has always dealt with payola, but never the level of scum and corruption illustrated first by SMU and now Baylor. Louisville's basketball program is fair game. Petrino is a douche but it's infidelity with an of age person and that is not the same as ignoring rape, covering up rape, or as awful as what happened at SMU in the 80's.

The reality is that all major sports programs have some severe issues. But, not all have institutional cover for them. SMU did, Baylor did, North Carolina does, but I'm not sure the case against Louisville's basketball issues go above the head coach or perhaps the A.D.

Just stop your crusade to spin the Big 12. It's totally indefensible at this point with regard to Baylor. And listening to you pursue this just lowers my high opinion of you.

You're the one who is defensive and full of BS JR.
#1 Its not my post you are responding too!
#2 Cam Newton's Dads church sure found a lot of money after he shopped Cam around. And it didn't come from Mississippi St.
#3 Auburn keeps getting QBs who were kicked out of other SEC schools.
#4 You know good and well how high Auburn is on the all-time major violations list. I believe they are tied with SMU, just behind #1 Arizona St.
#5 My own UK got caught sending money by Emery Air Freight (although Sutton still claims it was a setup).

As for Louisville, its the prostitutes that is the big issue, along with hiring someone nobody else would touch. As for Petrino, its all the stuff in addition to the cheating.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...l-timeline

"It's later discovered that his passenger on the bike was a 25-year-old former Arkansas volleyball player and current football team assistant with whom he was having an affair. He'd hired her (possibly illegally) over several far more qualified candidates.

Petrino attempts to hide the assistant's presence at the crash, asking a witness not to call 911. Arkansas eventually releases a statement saying Petrino was alone in the crash."

So he effectively put his mistress on the Arkansas payroll and lied about the accident. That goes far beyond Pitino's case, which is more just the embarrassment.

Several Louisville fans are just getting on their high horse here and need a dose of reality as to what their school did and has done.

As for Baylor, I'm not defending Briles. But I have yet to hear of the police department or the administration beyond the athletic department covering things up and discouraging victims from pressing charges. With Penn St. with Sandusky and Montana and FSU with their rape scandals, it did go up to the top and did involve the police departments or officials of the department.

Baylor has long taken academic risks. It appears Briles took character risks and then made allowances even after they arrived.

Bullet, we get it. You're a UK fan & UL is evil personified. Louisville is worse than child molesters & rapists. How funny would it have been if UK would have listened to Joe B Hall & hired Petrino at UK instead of letting him go to WKU?

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/bobby-p...oe-b-hall/

Read the comments at the end of the article & read for yourself how BBN wanted Petrino, immediately after Arkansas.

No, its your little brother syndrome. I actually liked UL until they stooped to Petrino. And when you hire Pitino and Petrino and start talking about how moral your school is (and WVU or Baylor isn't), you deserve all the flack you get and then some.

Pitino made a mistake and ended up in a very public bribery scandal. I was glad to see he landed on his feet, but coaches are perhaps the most visible person at the school so most schools wouldn't want that situation associated with such a high profile person. What Petrino did was far beyond a mistake or a mere fling.

Little Brother syndrome..literally LMBO...so Kentucky fan-(Bullet) is channeling Eddie Sutton...but I guess you feel covering up rape, murder and child molestation-(Baylor/Penn State) = what Pitino, McGee and Powell did-(Louisville...Strippers for Recruits which is horrible in it own right but no coverup)...like JR said you're losing credibility...

(05-29-2016 10:36 AM)Maize Wrote:  Little Brother syndrome..literally LMBO...so Kentucky fan-(Bullet) is channeling Eddie Sutton...but I guess you feel covering up rape, murder and child molestation-(Baylor/Penn State) = what Pitino, McGee and Powell did-(Louisville...Strippers for Recruits which is horrible in it own right but no coverup)...like JR said you're losing credibility...

Again, you've got such a little brother inferiority complex you make up stuff that I didn't say.

As I've said several times, Briles has no excuse. But many of you are over the top and accusing Baylor (beyond just the athletic department) of things that Montana and FSU and PSU did, but I haven't seen anybody say Baylor actually did.

Now I haven't read the report, but I haven't seen any articles saying that Waco police or Ken Starr were involved with any of the nastiness. I also haven't read anything indicating the athletic department personnel committed obstruction of justice. And unlike UNC with academics and Montana, FSU and PSU, heads are rolling before authorities are forcing their hand.

A lot of these articles rake Baylor over the coals for things like bringing in a player with a history who then raped someone at Baylor and got convicted. Yes, they shouldn't have taken such a chance. But he got convicted. It wasn't like Winston at FSU where the police made it almost impossible to get a conviction or similar actions at Montana (who got a slap on the wrist BTW) or where the head of the police department didn't even report the crimes at PSU even though Sandusky already had a questionable history (1998 investigation).