(05-27-2016 04:36 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:05 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Excellent point Greenroom.

Those who committed the wrongdoings have been punished. Why do people who had nothing to do with the wrongdoings need to be punished too??

Once more so you can understand. HE'S THE HEAD OF THE PROGRAM, IF HIS UNDERLINGS DID THESE THINGS HIS HEAD NEEDS TO ROLL TOO. Baylor has even admitted that the football program separated itself from the normal university disciplinary process. They ran their own rape investigations and retaliated against at least one person who came forward. You think Briles should still be kept around when thats what his program was doing?

And you can't prop him up behind the shield of "he didn't know" either. It was his job to know. He's either complicit (sinister) or just grossly negligent (slightly less sinister). Either one costs him his job and his credibility as a HC.

(05-27-2016 03:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 09:57 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Thank you Shox. That's all I ask!


Mturn017,

But did Briles actually, himeself, discourage victims from reporting attacks??? Are you sure that you aren't just remembering what loki posted earlier, from the report that says Baylor administrators discouraged victims from reporting??

The Title IX stuff I don't understand, either. Title IX has to do with sexual discrimination. For example, providing equal opportunities to females to participate in inter-collegiate athletics.

Differences:

1) A Baylor player has already been convicted, and evidence that the staff tried to get it buried

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...aco-082115

2) This is not one incident, but multiple incidents involving multiple players

3) Title IX covers far more than athletics. If women are being mistreated in ANY way at an educational facility, it falls under Title IX

NCAA could also give a death penalty to Baylor for these incident. They want to enforce Title IX issues as well since it covers Athletics and Education. If they do nothing? They would come under scrutiny themselves allowing schools get away with these things. The times are changing, and people are calling for schools to get the death penalty for their sports programs if it is Florida State, Penn State, Miami, North Carolina and now Baylor. There are pressures on NCAA to carry out much harsher penalties. The NCAA caved into the politicians for the Penn State matter, but they also came under negative press for lifting the penalties on them. Let the players transfer to other schools without penalties. Kill the programs to serve their time. It is the schools fault that hurts the innocent.

http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articl...ault-cases

Title IX investigation seems to will be start looking into Baylor. This may push out more people from the schools like firing the AD, fire all of the coaches on the football team, other administration personal be gone, and maybe some BoTs will have to step down. I do not believe they are innocent in all of this like the bots at Penn State are also as guilty with the Sandusky case.

It is time to clean up at all these schools. Coaches need to stop giving athletes second chances and all that. It would just lead to repeat defender. Urban Meyer at Florida should have put a stop to Aaron Hernandez as well when Hernandez was showing signs of bad behaviour.

(05-27-2016 04:36 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:05 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Excellent point Greenroom.

Those who committed the wrongdoings have been punished. Why do people who had nothing to do with the wrongdoings need to be punished too??

Once more so you can understand. HE'S THE HEAD OF THE PROGRAM, IF HIS UNDERLINGS DID THESE THINGS HIS HEAD NEEDS TO ROLL TOO. Baylor has even admitted that the football program separated itself from the normal university disciplinary process. They ran their own rape investigations and retaliated against at least one person who came forward. You think Briles should still be kept around when thats what his program was doing?

Well even if he didn't protect these people, he had the poor judgement to recruit so many bad ones in the first place, some of which had a history. So Briles should be gone.

(05-26-2016 02:34 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  @MikeLeslieWFAA 2m2 minutes ago
Baylor BOR says Ken Starr's role as chancellor is external development and religious liberty. His operational duties have been revoked.

Then don't call him "Chancellor." This isn't a punishment...he gets a title that other institutions use to designate their top administrator, and still gets the faculty distinction.

I knew Baylor didn't have it in them to do that to the guy. Just like Penn State only firing Paterno and Spanier from select roles, both still collected faculty paychecks afterward (yes, Spanier is still collecting as a PSU employee). Baylor didn't do **** to Starr.

Man, to be in HR at a school. Just, wow...such absurdity when these personnel matters are discussed. Only in higher ed...

(05-27-2016 08:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 08:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are now ramblings that Baylor could drop all sports, or drop down to D2 or D3 to get away from this scandal. They are too tarnished to be at D1 anymore in any sports. Cover up of a basketball player killing another person and the rape that the football players did gave the school a black eye.

Ramblings in your own head don't count my friend.

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http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/BREA...--45560612

(05-30-2016 02:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/BREA...--45560612

Grobe is a good hire under the circumstances.

In other Baylor News the A.D. resigned today.

(05-30-2016 11:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 02:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/BREA...--45560612

Grobe is a good hire under the circumstances.

In other Baylor News the A.D. resigned today.

They need to clean house. Remember that Baylor was caught last year when one of the assistant coaches was at one of the other Big 12 school's football game. Could be stealing signs. Now, I do not believe Briles was the coach on that staff who knew about the problems. More heads need to roll by firing all the football coaches on the Baylor staff. Ken Starr should be fire or resign. More people at the higher up needs to step down. Members on the board of Regents who were in the loop on the cover up should step down.

(05-30-2016 11:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 11:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 02:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/BREA...--45560612

Grobe is a good hire under the circumstances.

In other Baylor News the A.D. resigned today.

They need to clean house. Remember that Baylor was caught last year when one of the assistant coaches was at one of the other Big 12 school's football game. Could be stealing signs. Now, I do not believe Briles was the coach on that staff who knew about the problems. More heads need to roll by firing all the football coaches on the Baylor staff. Ken Starr should be fire or resign. More people at the higher up needs to step down. Members on the board of Regents who were in the loop on the cover up should step down.

The Baylor Coach on the sidelines was Jeff Lebby and it was during the OU vs. Tulsa game. Lebby was an assistant under Stoops at OU and under Montgomery (Tulsa HC) at Baylor. He was in town for a wedding and stopped by to watch a little of the game and see old friends. He was there for less than a quarter. Not there to steal signals. Take off the tin foil hat.

But he got it fitted...

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Quote:Baylor: Associate AD for football operations Colin Shillinglaw and administrative staffer Tom Hill have been let go in the wake of the Art Briles scandal according to Dan Wolken of USA Today.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../85217296/

Starr stepping down.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...inue-teach