(05-23-2016 10:42 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:32 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:28 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

Just got to spew that hate towards those that protect you. I really hope the day comes where you need an officer and well.......you know, karma.

I hate bad cops, and make no bones about it...what bothers me is good cops protecting them...they (most officers) should want to find and weed out the bad apples...this always seems to be the result.

of course, you're just another 'police can do no wrong' type

Where on earth did you find a brush that broad?

urban memphis

(05-23-2016 10:39 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:32 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:28 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

Just got to spew that hate towards those that protect you. I really hope the day comes where you need an officer and well.......you know, karma.

I hate bad cops, and make no bones about it...what bothers me is good cops protecting them...they (most officers) should want to find and weed out the bad apples...this always seems to be the result.

of course, you're just another 'police can do no wrong' type

We all don't like bad cops. This cop was proven innocent, yet you attack him. Your double speak won't bail you out of this one.

So...OJ was proven innocent? Not how it works.

(05-23-2016 10:42 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:32 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:28 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

Just got to spew that hate towards those that protect you. I really hope the day comes where you need an officer and well.......you know, karma.

I hate bad cops, and make no bones about it...what bothers me is good cops protecting them...they (most officers) should want to find and weed out the bad apples...this always seems to be the result.

of course, you're just another 'police can do no wrong' type

it is called over charging

The problem is that someone is dead and responsibility for that is placed on no one. One the civil side, when someone dies there is always someone or something responsible (homocide, suicide, accident, etc.)

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:17 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Will riots follow?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/23/bal...-case.html

Why was he given the option of a bench trial?

Cause rights...

(05-23-2016 10:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:17 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Will riots follow?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/23/bal...-case.html

Why was he given the option of a bench trial?

Cause rights...

liberal dont care about rights unless its their own

(05-23-2016 10:41 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Well Freddie Gray didn't kill himself, so who did?

How do you know he didn't kill himself? One theory is he banged his head against the wall in the back of that vehicle causing life ending injuries. Another prisoner in the van claims that is exactly what happened. Not saying that is what happened, but to say he didn't kill himself is has not been proven.

(05-23-2016 10:42 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:32 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:28 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

Just got to spew that hate towards those that protect you. I really hope the day comes where you need an officer and well.......you know, karma.

I hate bad cops, and make no bones about it...what bothers me is good cops protecting them...they (most officers) should want to find and weed out the bad apples...this always seems to be the result.

of course, you're just another 'police can do no wrong' type

it is called over charging

They are not charging on what they can convict with they are charging based on emotion. And those trials usually go really badly. Everything from Casey Anthoney to Freddie Gray.

(05-23-2016 10:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:34 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:17 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Will riots follow?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/23/bal...-case.html

Why was he given the option of a bench trial?

I was once called and interviewed by the prosecution/defense on a murder trial. There were two defendants and one choose jury and one choose bench trial. Both trials were conducted simultaneously with the jury deciding (guilty) on one defendant and the judge ruling (not guilty) on the other.

It was explained that it was at the option of the defendant to choose jury or bench.

As an aside, I wasn't chosen because my daughter was a babysitter for the DA.

It is my understanding that the option to choose a bench or jury trial is only for minor offenses. What was this officer being charged for and why was he given the option on such a high profile case?

You're understanding is incorrect. In most states the option of a jury trial is only open to charges that carry a significant sentence. e.g. you can't ask for a jury trial for shoplifting... That's almost always a bench trial.

However.... For serious crimes the accused always gets to pick either or.

(05-23-2016 10:41 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Well Freddie Gray didn't kill himself, so who did?

the choices he made.

(05-23-2016 10:53 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:42 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  it is called over charging

The problem is that someone is dead and responsibility for that is placed on no one. One the civil side, when someone dies there is always someone or something responsible (homocide, suicide, accident, etc.)

Perhaps then they should not have overcharged the officers. Then someone would "be held responsible". But when you seek vengeance rather than justice that tends to happen.

(05-23-2016 10:28 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

Just got to spew that hate towards those that protect you. I really hope the day comes where you need an officer and well.......you know, karma.

He's a rent-a-cop. Probably has real cop envy.

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

This officer had the least serious charges of the 6. There are still 5 trials to go and likely at least one of these guys gets a murder conviction. This is a long way from being over.

(05-23-2016 10:53 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  The problem is that someone is dead and responsibility for that is placed on no one. One the civil side, when someone dies there is always someone or something responsible (homocide, suicide, accident, etc.)

For starters, there are 4 more officers to be tried (5 including a retrial). The first ended in a hung jury. The most serious charge was against one of the three black cops. That trial starts June 6.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/05/23...l-charges/

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/05/23...ray-death/

(05-23-2016 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  of course, the police can do no wrong in this country.

This officer had the least serious charges of the 6. There are still 5 trials to go and likely at least one of these guys gets a murder conviction. This is a long way from being over.

Going to get harder to get convictions on the most serious charges. If they can't get this on Nero good luck on the rest.

Nero faced second-degree assault, reckless endangerment and two counts of misconduct in office.remaining. One was a mistrial.

Do you remember when white people rioted after O.J.?

(05-23-2016 11:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Do you remember when white people rioted after O.J.?

Pretty poor false equivalency...and I think you know that.

Here is the White blue eyed Devil Judge Williams, not guilty.

Murder was the case that they gave me?

(05-23-2016 11:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If people knew that the word "redskins" came from the act of actively hunting and scalping Indians for profit as if they were animals, they would be offended.

Don't know why you posted that in this thread, but a guy at the Smithsonian disagrees:

Quote:In 2005, the Indian language scholar Ives Goddard of the Smithsonian Institution published a remarkable and consequential study of redskin's early history. His findings shifted the dates for the word's first appearance in print by more than a century and shed an awkward light on the contemporary debate. Goddard found, in summary, that "the actual origin of the word is entirely benign."

Redskin, he learned, had not emerged first in English or any European language. The English term, in fact, derived from Native American phrases involving the color red in combination with terms for flesh, skin, and man. These phrases were part of a racial vocabulary that Indians often used to designate themselves in opposition to others whom they (like the Europeans) called black, white, and so on.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valle...ectly.html

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

(05-23-2016 11:58 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 11:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If people knew that the word "redskins" came from the act of actively hunting and scalping Indians for profit as if they were animals, they would be offended.

Don't know why you posted that in this thread, but a guy at the Smithsonian disagrees:

Quote:In 2005, the Indian language scholar Ives Goddard of the Smithsonian Institution published a remarkable and consequential study of redskin's early history. His findings shifted the dates for the word's first appearance in print by more than a century and shed an awkward light on the contemporary debate. Goddard found, in summary, that "the actual origin of the word is entirely benign."

Redskin, he learned, had not emerged first in English or any European language. The English term, in fact, derived from Native American phrases involving the color red in combination with terms for flesh, skin, and man. These phrases were part of a racial vocabulary that Indians often used to designate themselves in opposition to others whom they (like the Europeans) called black, white, and so on.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valle...ectly.html

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

he is just trying to derail the thread