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This Man Saved A Girl From Being Stabbed To Death, And Now Target Is Suing Him For It
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RE: This Man Saved A Girl From Being Stabbed To Death, And Now Target Is Suing Him For It
(05-20-2016 12:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-20-2016 12:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-20-2016 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-20-2016 11:11 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  My take on the wedding cake thing pisses everyone off on all sides.

A business should not be able to discriminate in selling a cake to a Muslim, a gay person, a Conservative, etc. A cake is a cake.

But.

I think the difference comes in when you start ordering people to create expressive material.

For instance, I believe that a Muslim baker should be able to refuse me if I ask him to sell me a cake that asserts that Mohammed is not a prophet.

A Jewish baker should be able to refuse to make me a cake that says Jesus is the only Messiah.

A gay baker should be able to refuse a cake with certain Bible verses.

It makes me nervous when the government is allowed to dictate that you express yourself contrary to your belief.

The freedom not to speak things you don't believe is part of Freedom of Speech.

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It should actually piss off neither side.

The issue with the definition of businesses and corporations is that those are entities that are forced to be set up by the government in order to transact business. The regulation of those entities by the federal government CAN NOT destroy the constitutional rights of people. A persons ability to exist depends on their ability of transacting commerce. The federal government CAN NOT regulate commerce in a way that destroys a persons religious freedoms. Period. End of story.

What Captain Butthurt has a problem with is that he believes that someone who has been proclaimed to be a protected class overrides someone else's existing constitutional rights to religious liberty. It does not. But thats not even the issue.

If a gay man goes into a bakery and orders a cake, he will get a cake.

If a gay man goes into a bakery and wants a cake with two penises on it, he can be denied that, because the bakery has every right to deny creating or being a part of something that violates their religious liberty.

You cant be denied service for who you are. You can be denied service for what you want. What you want is not protected under the constitution. Who you are is.

Thats the difference.

Brilliant.

Very well said. 04-bow

Fit and I have agreed on a couple of things over the past couple of days. It's almost scary. 04-cheers

I hope you fully recover from your lobotomy. 04-cheers
05-20-2016 02:26 PM
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