https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Weld

Two-term Governor of Massachusetts from 1990-1997.

Would be a good choice.

That would be rinolicious.

Is he the presumptive nominee? Austin Petersen has been making the rounds on a few podcasts that I listen to, and he seems much more palatable. He also owned Johnson on gun rights in their last debate.

Who cares?

Irrelevant.

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(05-17-2016 06:15 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Who cares?

Those of us who do not see a lesser evil in the other candidates.

Would be a relatively formidable third party ticket.

If he manages to gain steam, Im open vote for him.

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(05-17-2016 06:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Is he the presumptive nominee? Austin Petersen has been making the rounds on a few podcasts that I listen to, and he seems much more palatable. He also owned Johnson on gun rights in their last debate.

Johnson pretty much has it in the bag.

Peterson seems decent, more a "purist" libertarian I suppose, and probably has his sights more focused on 2020/24.

McAfee is a nutter.

(05-17-2016 06:15 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Who cares?

ditto

Weld would be equally a good choice for the Republicans. He has a one hell of strong resume.

(05-17-2016 06:15 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Who cares?

Ask Ralph Nader circa 2000.

If it's a close race, Hillary and Trump will care a lot, as even a 3-4% pull from a third party might have all the impact it needs.

Looks like the Johnson-Weld ticket is official (pending the LP convention of course).

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/arti...nning-mate

Trying to see how Weld is considered a Libertarian. As Governor of Mass he raised taxes, increased government regulation, expanded Medicare, supported the assault weapons ban, and tried to limit the number of handguns someone could own. In these parts we consider those basic tenants of the dim party, not the party of potheads and anarchy.

Wonder which way the LP will go, as party activists will ultimately decide who gets the nod. And that's why Johnson can't get too comfortable.

Johnson and Weld are by no means "purist" libertarians, but have a legit shot of actually making a decent impact in this election, even in a loss.

Then again, you might have some Ayn Rand disciple/black helicopter types who see Johnson as a commie and will select someone else on principle, who will then give the LP their usual 0.5%.

The LP bypassed the frontrunner a few elections ago.

Strange as it sounds, too much MSM love for Johnson might actually backfire on him.

(05-18-2016 09:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Trying to see how Weld is considered a Libertarian. As Governor of Mass he raised taxes, increased government regulation, expanded Medicare, supported the assault weapons ban, and tried to limit the number of handguns someone could own. In these parts we consider those basic tenants of the dim party, not the party of potheads and anarchy.

They dont know what the hell they stand for. As much as Id like a 3rd party the LP has serious identity / inconsistency issues.

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(05-18-2016 10:55 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 09:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Trying to see how Weld is considered a Libertarian. As Governor of Mass he raised taxes, increased government regulation, expanded Medicare, supported the assault weapons ban, and tried to limit the number of handguns someone could own. In these parts we consider those basic tenants of the dim party, not the party of potheads and anarchy.

They dont know what the hell they stand for. As much as Id like a 3rd party the LP has serious identity / inconsistency issues.

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I've said before I have tried multiple times to get behind the LP but every time they just about have me convinced they go way out there not even in left field but into the cemetery out beyond the parking lot behind the left field bleachers with something and it turns into a great big "Nope" moment. Like when one of the guys who works with my wife and is big in the LP here in SC told me to look into Gary Johnson because he thought I would like him for President. I checked it out and was starting to get sucked in then I saw how he's soft on crime, soft on immigration, soft on defense and soft on drugs. Once again....NOPE.

(05-18-2016 11:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 10:55 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 09:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Trying to see how Weld is considered a Libertarian. As Governor of Mass he raised taxes, increased government regulation, expanded Medicare, supported the assault weapons ban, and tried to limit the number of handguns someone could own. In these parts we consider those basic tenants of the dim party, not the party of potheads and anarchy.

They dont know what the hell they stand for. As much as Id like a 3rd party the LP has serious identity / inconsistency issues.

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I've said before I have tried multiple times to get behind the LP but every time they just about have me convinced they go way out there not even in left field but into the cemetery out beyond the parking lot behind the left field bleachers with something and it turns into a great big "Nope" moment. Like when one of the guys who works with my wife and is big in the LP here in SC told me to look into Gary Johnson because he thought I would like him for President. I checked it out and was starting to get sucked in then I saw how he's soft on crime, soft on immigration, soft on defense and soft on drugs. Once again....NOPE.

The drugs don't bother me, but the immigration does. I wish the LP would change their stance on immigration. The government overreaches everywhere else, but this is one of the few areas they have a constitutional role and they aren't performing. Advantage Trump there. Advantage Johnson in most other areas.

(05-18-2016 11:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I checked it out and was starting to get sucked in then I saw how he's soft on crime, soft on immigration, soft on defense and soft on drugs. Once again....NOPE.

What you may consider "soft", another would consider reforming the Drug War and a less interventionist policy as "sensible."

(05-18-2016 11:16 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  They dont know what the hell they stand for. As much as Id like a 3rd party the LP has serious identity / inconsistency issues.

Although this could be applied to any party. Trump and Hillary could switch sides on some issues. She's hawkish, he yearns for an economic trade war, etc. Even Sanders, a true-blue leftist, is too "right" on gun rights for much of his BernieBot camp.

I don't consider myself libertarian in the true sense of the word, I probably accept a little too much government to ever "fit" that party. But I really dislike the GOP and Dem nominees this election cycle, even more so than usual, and the LP has the most formidable ticket and solid resumes they've ever offered (if the party nominates them, of course).