(05-17-2016 04:43 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(05-17-2016 04:22 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(05-17-2016 04:17 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(05-17-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(05-17-2016 02:54 PM)Rob Wrote:  This shouldn't be a huge surprise since he wasn't a great athlete at the high school level, much less beyond. I feel like only NBA option is to be a stretch 4 type which means he'll have to become a consistent shooter. If he does that while bulking up and refining his post skills then he has a chance in the NBA.

True stretch 4's don't play with their back to the basket (post skills) in NBA unless a mismatch.

Pretty much everyone has to be able to finish inside. He has pretty good rebounding skills so he would find himself in that position fairly often.

He can drive and take it to hole. Give him time. Better ball handler for a 4 than he gets credit for

Well we weren't talking about any of that but I do think he has the potential to be a good ball handler but he turned it over way too much to say he's already there. His lack of athleticism will make it tougher to drive in the NBA.

Many of his turnovers were looooong passes from the high post over Shaq's head on the block (Pastner's offense) and Shaq didn't have the greatest hands to save him from many either.

(05-16-2016 07:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.

lol, let Dedric and his dad worry about that...it's not your problem.

If we go with your premise then we should just close down this board because none of what is happening is our problem. We are not the school administration, we are not the coach, and we are not the players and we are not their parents.

So i guess we are being selective as to what is and is not our problem

I keep looking for a downside, but it's tough to find one...

You're welcome to leave anytime you want.

Dedric never should have been advised to attend the combine. Too late now and he lost his 1 chance to go & return if needed. Too young, too slow, too self-centered to compete with other players nationally.

Nothing new as we see this year after year.

He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

(05-18-2016 06:41 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

You can test the waters every year now

(05-18-2016 06:12 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Dedric never should have been advised to attend the combine. Too late now and he lost his 1 chance to go & return if needed. Too young, too slow, too self-centered to compete with other players nationally.

Nothing new as we see this year after year.

I see nascar guy has a buddy

(05-18-2016 06:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:41 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

You can test the waters every year now

You can but he has put some more bad notes on his scouting report, which I don't think was that smart. We will see.

(05-18-2016 08:02 AM)dwash Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:41 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

You can test the waters every year now

You can but he has put some more bad notes on his scouting report, which I don't think was that smart. We will see.

Won't hurt him at all unless he doesn't improve on them

People don't keep up with the rules.

(05-18-2016 08:26 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 08:02 AM)dwash Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:41 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

You can test the waters every year now

You can but he has put some more bad notes on his scouting report, which I don't think was that smart. We will see.

Won't hurt him at all unless he doesn't improve on them

Of course if he does not improve on his weak spots, then he will not have a shot at NBA regardless if they see him this year and next or just next year--it really is a no lose proposition for him.

(05-18-2016 08:26 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 08:02 AM)dwash Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:41 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

You can test the waters every year now

You can but he has put some more bad notes on his scouting report, which I don't think was that smart. We will see.

Won't hurt him at all unless he doesn't improve on them

Of course if he does not improve on his weak spots, then he will not have a shot at NBA regardless if they see him this year and next or just next year--it really is a no lose proposition for him.

(05-18-2016 01:44 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 07:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If we go with your premise then we should just close down this board because none of what is happening is our problem. We are not the school administration, we are not the coach, and we are not the players and we are not their parents.

So i guess we are being selective as to what is and is not our problem

I keep looking for a downside, but it's tough to find one...

You're welcome to leave anytime you want.

You can check out any time you want...

(05-18-2016 10:19 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 01:44 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 07:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If we go with your premise then we should just close down this board because none of what is happening is our problem. We are not the school administration, we are not the coach, and we are not the players and we are not their parents.

So i guess we are being selective as to what is and is not our problem

I keep looking for a downside, but it's tough to find one...

You're welcome to leave anytime you want.

You can check out any time you want...

But you can never le e eve. ber ner ber ner werrrrr.....

(05-18-2016 09:46 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  People don't keep up with the rules.

Yep the rule was already discussed on pg 1 and 2 of this thread

I saw the rule about date change but not the only 1 rule. That’s the thing I no longer like about college is the rules can change several times while players are still in school.

WTF’s next? You can hire an agent, get paid and still retain college eligibility? Same thing with the P5 in football. 90% of the teams are ranked top 10-15 annually and stay there for the entire season no matter who they lose to. Most still have a legit shot at a national championship when the season is winding down.

Beat up on each other during conference play and losers don’t drop but 1 or 2 spots. It started with the BCS and now the P5 have taken total control.

(05-18-2016 06:41 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He can't "test the waters" again?
I never thought of that. I was just about to propose that the Combine wasn't disastrous for Dedric, but rather served its purpose. It put him in front of lots of NBA types, and gave him a list of things to work on, which was why, I assumed, he went. That, and the off chance somebody would take a first-round flyer on him.

But if he truly can't revisit the combine (with the option of returning to school), then all he did was cement a negative impression in the minds of those same NBA types.

Steven Adams of OKC is a great example of a player who increased his foot speed and agility. Saw him okay in college, in person vs Griz. Much better and agile player now.

The street is saying the Dude gonna take the D league route

(05-19-2016 08:07 AM)memphisike Wrote:  The street is saying the Dude gonna take the D league route

That means he is coming back. Good news!

39% of d league players last year had some nba experience. But more get sent down to d from nba than get called up, I think.

And it's definitely tougher for a big man to make the jump.

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_DocHollid...5222481920

Quote:Dedric Lawson withdraws from @NBA draft. Will return to play for Tubby Smith at Memphis.