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(05-15-2016 07:51 AM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote:  http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/648..._id=878183

Noticeable by absence is any mention of Campbell in this passage:
Not to mention approaching it with a focus and intensity that might remind UT fans of some other football coaches — Frank Lauterbur, back in the day, and Nick Saban and Gary Pinkel more recently.

I thinked he lacked intensity or the sense of urgency. Amstutz certainly had the passion and did a very good job of hiring a staff, but I don't know as that I would say he liked structure and that is necessary to longevity and consistency. As for Campbell and Beckman - they were definitely looking out for themselves first and were more concerned about their image or "branding". I am starting to like what I am seeing in Candle more and more. I'm not about to drink the Kool Aid yet, but I am now starting to wonder if Campbell was meddling too much in the offense. I was impressed with what I saw in the Boca Raton bowl. I just hope he has the right assistants and they are about doing a great job at their current employer. Candle can make a lot of money for a long time at UT if he is successful. Maybe he will be the guy that actually does the same as his college coach and builds a dynasty in one place.

I had the chance to talk with one of the newest member of the UT Foundation Staff when she called to discuss contributions. I thought the comment she made about having her new job "we are hoping it will be a long time" was interesting. Let's hope Jason does stay a while and Beats the Huskies for years to come. Offering the UT Foundation job to his wife was a very good move. She can go with him on his rubber chicken trips and close the deal on the donors. Time will tell if it is the same old BS or someone looking to stay a while. Lets hope the latter.

The beat down of Temple was impressive, in particular given the set of circumstances in just the few weeks leading to that game. It did have me wondering, as others have said, if our former head coach had in fact been the reason our offense sputtered and became predictable in key games and not because of Candle as OC. Time will tell. I'm starting to believe more that we got the better end of this than Ames, Iowa did.

As I recall, he was in Ames himself and headed to Ames? That doesn't strike me someone that felt meddled with, who could have wished his head coach the best and gone on some interviews on his own merits. He stayed because he got the more money and opportunity here. I think I'll let results speak instead of hopeful wishes but I'm not impressed that if he's successful, he's here for any long haul. He handled the last situation like an opportunist and I expect nothing different in the future. That is not immoral or lacking in judgement or character as long as when he is here, this job is getting his undivided attention, not being split with the next one.

I wish him and his family the best, hope they find community here and if he leaves, hope he does it in a way that I still wish him the best.

(05-15-2016 11:38 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  As I recall, he was in Ames himself and headed to Ames? That doesn't strike me someone that felt meddled with, who could have wished his head coach the best and gone on some interviews on his own merits. He stayed because he got the more money and opportunity here. I think I'll let results speak instead of hopeful wishes but I'm not impressed that if he's successful, he's here for any long haul. He handled the last situation like an opportunist and I expect nothing different in the future. That is not immoral or lacking in judgement or character as long as when he is here, this job is getting his undivided attention, not being split with the next one.

I wish him and his family the best, hope they find community here and if he leaves, hope he does it in a way that I still wish him the best.

I don't think the fact that Candle initially headed to Ames with Campbell can or should be held against him (Amstutz did the same thing when Pinkel left for Mizzou)....it was the only real option either had under the circumstances.

Candle (and Stutz) left because that is where he knew for certain he would have a job the following year-----he had no such guarantee of any employment at UT until he got an offer for the top job. Had UT gone outside for a new coach, that person would have likely want to bring in his own people, particularly as coordinators and Candle could have easily found himself unemployed----initially going to Ames is what any rational person in his position would have done, so I can't hold that against him.

Frankly, at the time, I wondered why MOB was taking as long as he did to offer Candle the top spot. Whether it ultimately works out or not it was the right decision at that time.

If Candle is successful here as I hope he will be, there is no doubt in my mind he will be gone in a few years at which time I share your hope that when he does leave he will do so in such a way as all of us can wish him the best.

Keep the University and its Athletic Programs moving in the right direction.

(05-15-2016 12:14 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(05-15-2016 11:38 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  As I recall, he was in Ames himself and headed to Ames? That doesn't strike me someone that felt meddled with, who could have wished his head coach the best and gone on some interviews on his own merits. He stayed because he got the more money and opportunity here. I think I'll let results speak instead of hopeful wishes but I'm not impressed that if he's successful, he's here for any long haul. He handled the last situation like an opportunist and I expect nothing different in the future. That is not immoral or lacking in judgement or character as long as when he is here, this job is getting his undivided attention, not being split with the next one.

I wish him and his family the best, hope they find community here and if he leaves, hope he does it in a way that I still wish him the best.

I don't think the fact that Candle initially headed to Ames with Campbell can or should be held against him (Amstutz did the same thing when Pinkel left for Mizzou)....it was the only real option either had under the circumstances....

Hardly but your option. Mine is different and the AD's counts.

(05-15-2016 11:38 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  As I recall, he was in Ames himself and headed to Ames? That doesn't strike me someone that felt meddled with, who could have wished his head coach the best and gone on some interviews on his own merits. He stayed because he got the more money and opportunity here. I think I'll let results speak instead of hopeful wishes but I'm not impressed that if he's successful, he's here for any long haul. He handled the last situation like an opportunist and I expect nothing different in the future. That is not immoral or lacking in judgement or character as long as when he is here, this job is getting his undivided attention, not being split with the next one.

I wish him and his family the best, hope they find community here and if he leaves, hope he does it in a way that I still wish him the best.

How would you expect him to handle it? He was offered a lot of money at a place where he was already comfortable with the guy who would remain his boss. If he turned it down to stay at Toledo, he may not get the head coaching job at Toledo - and worse, may not have even been retained on the staff if a new guy comes in. Campbell had the upper hand in that he knew he was leaving and already knew who he was going to offer a position at Ames. Not too many people would say no and risk not getting the head coaching job then being forced to find employment elsewhere. If he didn't do what he did, I would be concerned that he wasn't very smart.

(05-15-2016 03:20 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(05-15-2016 11:38 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  As I recall, he was in Ames himself and headed to Ames? That doesn't strike me someone that felt meddled with, who could have wished his head coach the best and gone on some interviews on his own merits. He stayed because he got the more money and opportunity here. I think I'll let results speak instead of hopeful wishes but I'm not impressed that if he's successful, he's here for any long haul. He handled the last situation like an opportunist and I expect nothing different in the future. That is not immoral or lacking in judgement or character as long as when he is here, this job is getting his undivided attention, not being split with the next one.

I wish him and his family the best, hope they find community here and if he leaves, hope he does it in a way that I still wish him the best.

How would you expect him to handle it?

His business. I don't and didn't have any expectations of how he should choose to handle it. The way he did, was hardly the only option. That's about the sum of what I posted. And I already in the first post provided one of them. How many do you want?

Might still have sought interviews but he would have been crazy to not take the Ames job in case nothing panned out.

Absolutely but as you recall the quick time-line, I measure it unlikely there was any job search hence MY reasoning that he probably wasn't unhappy with the situation. If Campbell was meddling with Candle's offense, didn't seem to be a concern of Candle's or he'd have searched for different pastures. And is there really anything other than hopeful fan-boy wishing to support that what we saw on the field was anything but Candles' un-meddled offense?

(05-15-2016 06:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  Absolutely but as you recall the quick time-line, I measure it unlikely there was any job search hence MY reasoning that he probably wasn't unhappy with the situation. If Campbell was meddling with Candle's offense, didn't seem to be a concern of Candle's or he'd have searched for different pastures. And is there really anything other than hopeful fan-boy wishing to support that what we saw on the field was anything but Candles' un-meddled offense?

Well, other than putting up big numbers against one of the top ranked Ds in the country in a bowl game with what appeared to be a run-first approach not always seen in the regular season, No. I tend to think Candle was mostly responsible for the O during regular season but Campbell established a framework for him to work within. We'll see.

I thought the players played hard for Coach Candle. Sort of like they wanted everyone to know he is the man for the job. I like him for his interviewing alone... couldn't watch Campbell's repeating and mindless coach speak any longer... He did WIN though to his credit.

A pretty good piece by Hack. Though I think it was not an upset by the Rockets over Temple in the Boca Bowl. If our previous coach had his team prepared, and focused for the WMU game, Toledo would've had bigger fish to fry in a New years Day game...

(05-16-2016 10:23 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  A pretty good piece by Hack. Though I think it was not an upset by the Rockets over Temple in the Boca Bowl. If our previous coach had his team prepared, and focused for the WMU game, Toledo would've had bigger fish to fry in a New years Day game...

Nobody can say for sure, why we lost to WMU, but look at Matt Campbell's record over the last 4 yrs, pretty good. Yes he didn't win a MAC championship, but he left us a lot of very good football players, and I feel coach Candle will have a great year. Looking at the schedule I see no less than 10-2. Their is no one on the schedule we can't beat. As for Matt Campbell at ISU, it's going to be a long beat down season for him and his staff.