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RE: OU & KU in B1G
(08-24-2017 01:33 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (08-24-2017 10:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:46 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:53 AM)BePcr07 Wrote: [quote='Transic_nyc' pid='14523428' dateline='1503559294']I posted on this board the other day that Northwestern and Colorado had scheduled a home-and-home series for next decade. If that's the case then it would make sense to put Colorado and Northwestern in the same division. Nebraska would act as a bridge to connect the eastern and western spheres of influence. In that case, I would pick Utah and the Salt Lake market over Kansas. Then create a "Pac 8" division for the West Coast and Arizona schools. The "Central Division" would for certain cover a vast amount of territory but would include the Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Omaha, Denver and Salt Lake markets. That covers a lot of people. Poor Purdue gets put in the East but I don't think they'd really mind in the end.
I'm open to that idea and I know it's not perfect and needs work but, like I've said, certain conditions have to be present before looking into it seriously.
If 24 is the goal then I like your thinking, but I would bet Arizona would get the call over Utah. It borders both Colorado and California.
Pacific: Washington, Washington St, Oregon, Oregon St, California, Stanford, USC, UCLA
Central: Arizona, Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern
Eastern: Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Penn St, Maryland, Rutgers
Those are interesting divisions and could definitely work. The only issues I see are that the B1G "traditionalists" are howling now, imagine what the reaction would be if Iowa doesn't get to play Purdue every year!!!! Oh the humanity!!!
The other is that I highly doubt that Arizona goes anywhere without ASU. They might be tied at the hip even more so that OU and OSU. In that sense, adding Utah might be easier. Arizona and ASU with TX to the ACC maybe?
I love conference tradition. I would prefer more independents, the 10-team B1G, the Big 8, the SWC, etc. That being said, tradition is sadly fading away quickly.
The Arizonas may joined at the hip and that would be obvious should anyone try to split them. Utah isn't a bad option either. The Arizonas may be okay getting annual games in a Texas. Easier to recruit in Texas and California is next door.
Quote:I'm in the school of "traditional" is overrated.
Its totally subjective. I personally traditional is out-the-door unless and until schools get fed up with it.
Quote:Sure it's nice to see schools you have history with, maybe even a little contempt for, but familiarity can lead to complacency which breeds mediocrity.
I've used that phrase (and I like it because it has merit) but does that apply to conference traditionalism? lol
Quote:I think shaking up the status quo can not only be helpful, but be interesting as well.
I agree! Which is why I'm an advocate for divisionless conferences. Keep a couple rivals on the schedule every year and rotate the others!
Quote:In your divisional break down, as a Wisconsin fan, I'd gladly give up seeing Purdue or Illinois on a yearly basis if it means someone like SC rolls into town more often. Me thinks the networks would likely feel that way as well.
It would be an easy sell. I imagine there could come a time when a decent number of power schools split from the rest and form their own division. Something like 48.
PAC
West: Washington, Oregon, California, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St
East: Utah, Colorado, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas
SEC
West: Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky
East: Florida, Florida St, Miami, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, North Carolina St
B1G
West: Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St
East: Notre Dame, Penn St, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Left out: Washington St, Oregon St, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Kansas St, Iowa St, West Virginia, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, Duke, Wake Forest, Louisville, Boston College, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers
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