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(05-12-2016 01:29 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  You can't kill expansion talk. Going to 12 didn't stop it. I doubt 16 would either. At some number though, you'd probably also start hearing contraction/split talk.

GREAT IDEA!!! Expand to 22. Then show Purdue and Northwestern the door for over a century of ineptitude.
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(05-11-2016 12:58 PM)Strut Wrote:  If OU and KU were added to B1G would we be done with expansion and any talk about it for B1G?

Would all the who's going where now be left to other conferences and B1G get to focus on stuff like before expansion talk?
Both OU and KU would be prefect additions in the west. I'd also like to see eastern expansion though. Assuming BIG is locked out of the ACC, my preferred candidates are UConn and Temple. But I'm willing to wait 10 years for both schools to build a winning football program and fan base, strengthen academics, and build endowment.
05-13-2016 05:17 PM
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I think the best two additions the Big Ten could make right now is Texas and Notre Dame followed by Texas and Oklahoma. I don't think the Big Ten can give Texas what they want, which would be basically 75% of their games played in Texas. Right now, Texas plays at half of West Virginia, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State out of Texas so either two or three games outside of Texas. Throw in an away big time P5 school in years in which they have two away conference games outside of Texas and you get a total of three games outside of Texas for UT. At 16 schools, the Big Ten can give Texas four home games plus the Red River Rivalry (or a school in Texas). Texas would have to schedule all their non-conference games at home or neutral site which would hurt their perception both with the playoff committee and in general. Plus what other Texas schools are there that are attractive to the Big Ten? Texas A&M, maybe Rice? Maybe Houston?
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(05-13-2016 05:17 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(05-11-2016 12:58 PM)Strut Wrote:  If OU and KU were added to B1G would we be done with expansion and any talk about it for B1G?

Would all the who's going where now be left to other conferences and B1G get to focus on stuff like before expansion talk?
Both OU and KU would be prefect additions in the west. I'd also like to see eastern expansion though. Assuming BIG is locked out of the ACC, my preferred candidates are UConn and Temple. But I'm willing to wait 10 years for both schools to build a winning football program and fan base, strengthen academics, and build endowment.

UConn, Im with you. Temple. Never Gonna happen. We have Penn St, Rutgers, & Maryland. Why pray tell do we need Temple. Slots are Valuable. I think that apart from UConn and Notre Dame... all candidates are to the south.
05-14-2016 12:41 PM
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(05-14-2016 12:41 PM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 05:17 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(05-11-2016 12:58 PM)Strut Wrote:  If OU and KU were added to B1G would we be done with expansion and any talk about it for B1G?

Would all the who's going where now be left to other conferences and B1G get to focus on stuff like before expansion talk?
Both OU and KU would be prefect additions in the west. I'd also like to see eastern expansion though. Assuming BIG is locked out of the ACC, my preferred candidates are UConn and Temple. But I'm willing to wait 10 years for both schools to build a winning football program and fan base, strengthen academics, and build endowment.

UConn, Im with you. Temple. Never Gonna happen. We have Penn St, Rutgers, & Maryland. Why pray tell do we need Temple. Slots are Valuable. I think that apart from UConn and Notre Dame... all candidates are to the south.

TV market, visibility in one of the largest cities in the country, and we were able to do more with Anthony Lee than Ohio State was.
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Temple doesn't provide anything that Penn State or even Rutgers doesn't.
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Covering up rape for decades and being an embarrassing athletic department?
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(05-14-2016 04:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  being an embarrassing athletic department?

Temple was kicked out of the Big East right?
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Temple is carving out its own space in what has traditionally been known as Penn State and Rutgers territory. Just drive along North Broad Street and you'll notice substantive, positive change in the growth and expansion of Temple. It no longer is a commuter school. The students that live in North Philadelphia are fueling gentrification of the neighborhood, turning it into a college town but with urban feel and modern look.

The school president, a BIG man, realizes the importance of athletics to the overall image and financial health of a school, is moving forward with plans of building an on-campus, expandable football stadium. The football HC appears to enjoy working and living in the Philadelphia area. The basketball arena is new, although I think the school would be better off with a younger men's basketball HC. Baseball, lacrosse, and ice hockey are club sports. With additional revenue, there's no reason these sports could become competitive, scholarship-based sports.
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(05-14-2016 06:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Temple is carving out its own space in what has traditionally been known as Penn State and Rutgers territory. Just drive along North Broad Street and you'll notice substantive, positive change in the growth and expansion of Temple. It no longer is a commuter school. The students that live in North Philadelphia are fueling gentrification of the neighborhood, turning it into a college town but with urban feel and modern look.

The school president, a BIG man, realizes the importance of athletics to the overall image and financial health of a school, is moving forward with plans of building an on-campus, expandable football stadium. The football HC appears to enjoy working and living in the Philadelphia area. The basketball arena is new, although I think the school would be better off with a younger men's basketball HC. Baseball, lacrosse, and ice hockey are club sports. With additional revenue, there's no reason these sports could become competitive, scholarship-based sports.

I don't doubt Temple's improvement and potential impact on a conference. I just think the Big Ten is the absolute worst match for the time being. How much more market share will Temple bring to the Big Ten? Or, what is the Big Ten missing out on by not having Temple? The Big Ten Network is already carried on the basic tier in Philadelphia, right? What match ups are can't miss with Temple in the conference that can't be filled by another school that also brings new markets, fans, and demographics?
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