(05-10-2016 09:50 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  50% chance there is even an ACCN at all in the next 3 years.

If there is, 10% chance it closes the money gap meaningfully with the SEC and B1G.

90% chance some ACC schools, particularly Clemson and FSU, still feel an acute $$$ disadvantage that will make them restless.

Bottom Line: ACCN or not, the presence of FSU and Clemson in the ACC will likely continue to depend on the good will of the SEC not inviting them.

I think that the ACC Network will happen. I don't think that it will make a ton of money like the SEC and Big Ten networks.

Agreed.

I don't think that Clemson and/or FSU will get an invitation to the SEC.

Agreed.

I don't think that Virginia and UNC will go to the Big Ten.

Agreed. They are ACC lifers.

I think that the Big 12 will implode whether they expand this summer or not.

Not sure about that. Kind of like the ACC's fate re Clemson/FSU resting on the whim of the SEC, I also think that there are several Big 12 schools -including crucially Oklahoma- that would jump to the B1G whether it expands or has a network or not, so yes, the Big 12's fate rests in the B1G's hands.

But IMO, the Big 12 is "safe" on that front for the same reason the ACC is "safe" regarding Clemson, FSU, and the SEC: With the possible exception of OK, the B1G doesn't want the Big 12 schools that want to join them.

I just wish I could "think" what the next Powerball numbers are.....

The ACC gets 45 million if ESPN does not commit to the ACC Network I believe by the end of June. An additional 3 million to the schools. I don't know if that is added to the contract or bulk pay-out. My guess there will be some sort of restructuring to the current contract in lieu of the 45 Million Probably to allow the ACC to negotiate the same time as the other P5 conferences negotiate. Even as an ACC fan, I see an ACC Network going the way of MWC and PAC12 than SEC & B10.

(05-09-2016 09:22 PM)Villecard Wrote:  I think it becomes competitive with the B1G and SEC, but it won't close the gap. Still, I think the ACCN will be very successful when it's launched.

Of course you do, but you're biased on the matter.

Reports indicate there must have been some tough negotiating (arguing?) behind closed doors in the TV meetings between the ACC and ESPN yesterday. We do know the meeting, which was scheduled to last 2 hours anyway, ran a full hour over - and still no resolution.

If I'm guessing what the sticking points are, they could be:
1) ESPN wants the ACC to buy back ALL Fox and Raycom games before they will agree to launch a network, but the ACC wants to do the network while still having some games on free TV.
2) The ACC wants 50% of network profits, but ESPN wants to offer less than that.
3) The ACC wants its network on basic cable, but ESPN wants to put it on a sports tier.

Of course, it could be something completely different - those are just my guesses.

(05-10-2016 10:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 09:50 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  50% chance there is even an ACCN at all in the next 3 years.

If there is, 10% chance it closes the money gap meaningfully with the SEC and B1G.

90% chance some ACC schools, particularly Clemson and FSU, still feel an acute $$$ disadvantage that will make them restless.

Bottom Line: ACCN or not, the presence of FSU and Clemson in the ACC will likely continue to depend on the good will of the SEC not inviting them.

I think that the ACC Network will happen. I don't think that it will make a ton of money like the SEC and Big Ten networks.

Agreed.

I don't think that Clemson and/or FSU will get an invitation to the SEC.

Agreed.

I don't think that Virginia and UNC will go to the Big Ten.

Agreed. They are ACC lifers.

I think that the Big 12 will implode whether they expand this summer or not.

Not sure about that. Kind of like the ACC's fate re Clemson/FSU resting on the whim of the SEC, I also think that there are several Big 12 schools -including crucially Oklahoma- that would jump to the B1G whether it expands or has a network or not, so yes, the Big 12's fate rests in the B1G's hands.

But IMO, the Big 12 is "safe" on that front for the same reason the ACC is "safe" regarding Clemson, FSU, and the SEC: With the possible exception of OK, the B1G doesn't want the Big 12 schools that want to join them.

I just wish I could "think" what the next Powerball numbers are.....

I don't disagree with all of your points but your logic is off.

Clemson and F.S.U. aren't getting an SEC invite because ESPN refuses to pay the SEC for them, which from ESPN's point of view is very logical. They both bolster the value of the total product of the ACC which ESPN owns a larger % in than it does in the SEC. And, they get that product more cheaply in the ACC. Neither of those product is truly a Big 10 kind of addition, in spite of what twitter hacks use to stir their hits, and the Big 12 will never make enough to make a move there possible. So ESPN's refusal to pay the SEC to take them freezes those two schools.

Also you are misunderstanding the FOX offer for the first half of the Big 10 rights package. They threw out a loss leader amount in hopes of attracting some key ESPN holdings. That's why they only bought half of the rights, grossly overpaid for less than 11 true tier 1 games (6 brands with national recognition and they don't all play each other), and set the time line for 6 years before renewal.

There are already rumors out that the second half of the package has contingencies for additions. If there are none they will likely get around 150 million for it tops. At 400 million the Big 10 payout increases by about 200 million over the last contract. That puts them north of 40 million. But if they get a couple of brands to bite it jumps to 50. If FOX gambles on the first half and loses then they have lost maybe the equivalent of full price for two undervalued schools for 7 years. That's not that big of a gamble. But if they get those additions then in 7 years they have a lot more leverage to steal ESPN product.

Because of this Oklahoma and Texas (the two top brand additions potentially available) become the big prizes for either a FOX held conference (Big 10) or an ESPN held conference (ACC or SEC).

Add to this the likelihood that an ACCN could rest upon ESPN's need to convert the LHN and realize that Disney/ESPN is very wealthy and despite recent cuts in the budget that if they can secure the top 75% of the largest revenue generating athletic departments with 4 or 5 additions from the Big 12, lock up over 50% of the best basketball product with the same, that adding Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas even if they have to add West Virginia and possibly another tag-a-long to either of their two conferences becomes a means by which they can bolster the ACC's value to within an acceptable differential, lock out Big 10 expansion products that could get them past 50 million, give the SEC a boost in the process, and settle the NCAA world back down for awhile, they will damn sure do it!

ESPN is going to save well over 120 million by not renewing the Big 10. If they absorb half of the Big 12 they may well end a commitment to 50% plus of the Big 12 payout now, and at least within 7 years. Turning talking head time into actual programming on ESPNNews, ESPNU, and the LHN, not to mention the third and unused SECN channel means converting dead space and annoying opinions into something to watch. The studios and production facilities are already in place so the overhead of conversion is simply a matter of local schools getting digital ready. Some in the ACC have already done this, the SEC has completely and the key schools in the Big 12 has as well.

I don't look for the Big 12 to survive. And I could totally see the SEC being used to take from the Big 12 the product that ESPN wants to keep, the same way the ACC was used to take the properties of the Big East that ESPN wanted to wall off from the Big 10 and the threat they perceived from a growing BTN (and that was before FOX bought a piece).

Preventing payouts of over 50 million eroding their property, and stagnating payouts at around the 45 million range is in the self interest of ESPN. Not having to worry about overbidding for Big 10 content the next time it comes up in 7 years is another leverage tool ESPN will seek.

How do you land Texas and kill the LHN? If they can't have their own conference they can have their own division.

Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas

They can play two other Texas schools as OOC games and keep all of their friends and rivals. If they are making a final paycheck higher than what the LHN would have given them then they give it up. I figure ESPN can make that move by bumping the present SEC payout by about 8 million per school for the addition of those listed and cover the LHN which they payout 15 million for one school now and are obligated to do so until 2030.

Put the SEC's total payout in the 43 million range and stagnate the Big 10's in the same range and its a winner for the Mouse, especially if they can get the ACCN a network and allow scheduling arrangements with the SEC to bolster their value to the 37 or 38 million range. So for somewhere between the cost of 32 to 36 schools under contract in the SEC and ACC ESPN can dominate all of the major money sports with the best content by owning those two conferences.

USC, Oregon and Stanford are the only true brands left in the PAC. Add those to the 6 in the Big 10 and even if FOX gets them both what do they have?

Even as a fan of an ACC school, I am not really interested in an ACC Network. Then again I wasn't interested in an SEC Network. I don't wish to pay for something (games on the ACC Network) again, I currently am already paying for, as those same games currently are syndicated on stations I already have, or available on ESPN 3 and the online ACC.com stream. Same reason I didn't like the SEC Network, as those games were mostly previously available to me in syndication, save for the local PPV game vs. an FCS school, which I never cared for anyway.

I get why the ACC wants one. As a fan who would be paying for it, I just don't yearn for it. That said, I think it would be successful, as basketball is a bigger draw on Big ten Network, for example, than most of the football games they show, since the football games are bottom of the barrel, whereas the basketball games tend to contain a lot of decent matchups.

It always cracks me up to see the resident B1G blowhards on here have such hatred for the ACC. They are obsessed with putting down the ACC or wanting it to fail, which is very odd. Why do you care so much? You never throw shots at the Pac and their failed network, or at the B12 and their complete dysfunction. I don't understand the snide comments, especially from bottom feeder schools who got into the B1G solely due to location and no actual athletic performance.

Will an ACCN close the gap completely? Hell no, anyone with a brain knows that. But it doesn't need to. The Pac and B12 will never come close to what the SEC and B1G make either, so who cares? All 3 will be forever chasing the 2 at the top.

JRSEC is on top of things, as usual. I imagine things will be much clearer by July 1, at the latest.

(05-10-2016 12:02 PM)uofis 05 Wrote:  It always cracks me up to see the resident B1G blowhards on here have such hatred for the ACC. They are obsessed with putting down the ACC or wanting it to fail, which is very odd. Why do you care so much? You never throw shots at the Pac and their failed network, or at the B12 and their complete dysfunction. I don't understand the snide comments, especially from bottom feeder schools who got into the B1G solely due to location and no actual athletic performance.

Will an ACCN close the gap completely? Hell no, anyone with a brain knows that. But it doesn't need to. The Pac and B12 will never come close to what the SEC and B1G make either, so who cares? All 3 will be forever chasing the 2 at the top.

JRSEC is on top of things, as usual. I imagine things will be much clearer by July 1, at the latest.

This board is so pro ACC its comical. Now any not 100% positive messages about the ACC messages are Big10 propaganda.

(05-10-2016 12:01 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Even as a fan of an ACC school, I am not really interested in an ACC Network. Then again I wasn't interested in an SEC Network. I don't wish to pay for something (games on the ACC Network) again, I currently am already paying for, as those same games currently are syndicated on stations I already have, or available on ESPN 3 and the online ACC.com stream. Same reason I didn't like the SEC Network, as those games were mostly previously available to me in syndication, save for the local PPV game vs. an FCS school, which I never cared for anyway.

I get why the ACC wants one. As a fan who would be paying for it, I just don't yearn for it. That said, I think it would be successful, as basketball is a bigger draw on Big ten Network, for example, than most of the football games they show, since the football games are bottom of the barrel, whereas the basketball games tend to contain a lot of decent matchups.

I am with you. I use ESPN3 on my phone to watch ND baseball and Chromecast it to my living room TV. Done. Why do I want to pay for a network?

I have never watched the BTN or the SEC Network. Other than ND content (which I can now get from WatchESPN and WatchND), I would never watch anything on the proposed ACC Network, either.

(05-10-2016 12:22 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 12:02 PM)uofis 05 Wrote:  It always cracks me up to see the resident B1G blowhards on here have such hatred for the ACC. They are obsessed with putting down the ACC or wanting it to fail, which is very odd. Why do you care so much? You never throw shots at the Pac and their failed network, or at the B12 and their complete dysfunction. I don't understand the snide comments, especially from bottom feeder schools who got into the B1G solely due to location and no actual athletic performance.

Will an ACCN close the gap completely? Hell no, anyone with a brain knows that. But it doesn't need to. The Pac and B12 will never come close to what the SEC and B1G make either, so who cares? All 3 will be forever chasing the 2 at the top.

JRSEC is on top of things, as usual. I imagine things will be much clearer by July 1, at the latest.

This board is so pro ACC its comical. Now any not 100% positive messages about the ACC messages are Big10 propaganda.

Exactly! This is pretty much an ACC board.

Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

LOL have you seen what happens when someone posts something positive about UConn? I'd rather never post on here again than post positive things about my school.

(05-10-2016 02:25 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

LOL have you seen what happens when someone posts something positive about UConn? I'd rather never post on here again than post positive things about my school.

You gotta point...lol

(05-10-2016 02:25 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

LOL have you seen what happens when someone posts something positive about UConn? I'd rather never post on here again than post positive things about my school.

UConn's metrics show that it well deserves to be in a P5 conference.

(05-10-2016 12:53 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 12:01 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Even as a fan of an ACC school, I am not really interested in an ACC Network. Then again I wasn't interested in an SEC Network. I don't wish to pay for something (games on the ACC Network) again, I currently am already paying for, as those same games currently are syndicated on stations I already have, or available on ESPN 3 and the online ACC.com stream. Same reason I didn't like the SEC Network, as those games were mostly previously available to me in syndication, save for the local PPV game vs. an FCS school, which I never cared for anyway.

I get why the ACC wants one. As a fan who would be paying for it, I just don't yearn for it. That said, I think it would be successful, as basketball is a bigger draw on Big ten Network, for example, than most of the football games they show, since the football games are bottom of the barrel, whereas the basketball games tend to contain a lot of decent matchups.

I am with you. I use ESPN3 on my phone to watch ND baseball and Chromecast it to my living room TV. Done. Why do I want to pay for a network?

I have never watched the BTN or the SEC Network. Other than ND content (which I can now get from WatchESPN and WatchND), I would never watch anything on the proposed ACC Network, either.

Count me among those not interested in an ACCN.

Also, I'd rather have the $3 million bird in the hand that ESPN is already committed to than take a chance on a share of a network that might never earn that much.

As far as closing the revenue gap with the B1G, I don't see why that matters. They could have $50 million more than the ACC and I doubt it would affect us at all. The only gap that even has a chance to matter on the field IMO is the one with the SEC, and I don't see a network making a dent in that.

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

1. It's mostly a G5 board here at CS&CR with the majority of posts expressing hurt, anger, or some other negative emotion leveled at the P5. It's misplaced. The networks have been driving expansion for the purpose of maximizing advertising revenue which after all is the crux of their business.

2. The ACC vastly outnumbers the rest of the P5 posters here and childishly does gang up on posters whose views they don't like. This is particularly true of the ACC posters whose schools once comprised the membership of the Old Big East. I chalk it up to old realignment issues, not current ones per se.

3. The CS&CR board is supposed to be a discussion board where all parties can mix. Discussion means no ad hominem attacks, respectful disagreement, and no trolling tactics such as dissembling the current discussion, hijacking the current discussion to a topic ancillary or totally skew of the OP's topic, or endless arguing over minutia smaller than the hairs on a gnats butt to claim a point.

4. When I first came here it was because I enjoyed getting ideas and discussing them with others not from the SEC boards. The perspectives of the Big East, the ACC, the Big 10, and the Big 12 posters and Wedge (sort of our lone PAC guy) were always more fun, and it filled in the gaps in reasoning that you miss when only conversing with those who think just like you do.

5. I agree that UConn fans get short shrift on expressing their joys and accomplishments and overall good news. There is always some jerk, who for the sake of an old grudge or out of some sense of being more important now that their school is no longer seeking a safe harbor, feels the need to level the Karma of the average Husky fan.

6. That said there is no more insufferable group on the board than tattle tail Huskies who report every perceived slight and who concoct schemes of victimization to cajole the moderation team into exacting retribution upon one of their foes. Whiny rat fink tactics doesn't endear them to anyone!

7. I do enjoy some of Kaplony's "Rainbow and Unicorn" applications to the ACC. If there is a close second to Whiny Rat Finks it is the obtuseness of the Pollyannas of the ACC. "Sure we are behind nearly 10 million in revenue but if you compare the 4th, 5th, and 9th, position schools in the Big 10 against our 4th, 5th, and 9th in terms of concessions you will see that hot dog sales alone make up that difference." If you are behind just admit it. The Big 10 can't bust you up if you don't leave. Just quit with all the danged excuses and totally obscure catch up scenarios! And if you are going to cheer lead then at least put on a dress and grow some teats.

8. If you had to spend 1 week as a mod you would learn how time consuming it is to merge threads. So like Wedge has posted don't start one until you've checked the board to see how many more are already there that pertain to the same presser or are discussing the same issue. All other moderation is not that tough but merging threads can be tedious.

9. Try to keep topics on the main board general to the all schools or at least a large group of schools. If it is exclusive to your conference then take it to your conference board. I think the mods really need to start moving some of them to bring a semblance of appropriateness back to the main board.

10. I see very few appropriate OT threads. If it doesn't pertain to College Sports or Realignment then take it to the lounge. If it is political take it to the Spin Room. If it is smack we even have a place for that and it is not on this board.

We may be about to have some noteworthy things happening so don't junk up the main board with trash threads period. I know it's the off season and things have been relatively slow, but think before you start a thread and put it in the appropriate forum and we'll be fine.

JR

(05-10-2016 03:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

1. It's mostly a G5 board here at CS&CR with the majority of posts expressing hurt, anger, or some other negative emotion leveled at the P5. It's misplaced. The networks have been driving expansion for the purpose of maximizing advertising revenue which after all is the crux of their business.

2. The ACC vastly outnumbers the rest of the P5 posters here and childishly does gang up on posters whose views they don't like. This is particularly true of the ACC posters whose schools once comprised the membership of the Old Big East. I chalk it up to old realignment issues, not current ones per se.

3. The CS&CR board is supposed to be a discussion board where all parties can mix. Discussion means no ad hominem attacks, respectful disagreement, and no trolling tactics such as dissembling the current discussion, hijacking the current discussion to a topic ancillary or totally skew of the OP's topic, or endless arguing over minutia smaller than the hairs on a gnats butt to claim a point.

4. When I first came here it was because I enjoyed getting ideas and discussing them with others not from the SEC boards. The perspectives of the Big East, the ACC, the Big 10, and the Big 12 posters and Wedge (sort of our lone PAC guy) were always more fun, and it filled in the gaps in reasoning that you miss when only conversing with those who think just like you do.

5. I agree that UConn fans get short shrift on expressing their joys and accomplishments and overall good news. There is always some jerk, who for the sake of an old grudge or out of some sense of being more important now that their school is no longer seeking a safe harbor, feels the need to level the Karma of the average Husky fan.

6. That said there is no more insufferable group on the board than tattle tail Huskies who report every perceived slight and who concoct schemes of victimization to cajole the moderation team into exacting retribution upon one of their foes. Whiny rat fink tactics doesn't endear them to anyone!

7. I do enjoy some of Kaplony's "Rainbow and Unicorn" applications to the ACC. If there is a close second to Whiny Rat Finks it is the obtuseness of the Pollyannas of the ACC. "Sure we are behind nearly 10 million in revenue but if you compare the 4th, 5th, and 9th, position schools in the Big 10 against our 4th, 5th, and 9th in terms of concessions you will see that hot dog sales alone make up that difference." If you are behind just admit it. The Big 10 can't bust you up if you don't leave. Just quit with all the danged excuses and totally obscure catch up scenarios! And if you are going to cheer lead then at least put on a dress and grow some teats.

8. If you had to spend 1 week as a mod you would learn how time consuming it is to merge threads. So like Wedge has posted don't start one until you've checked the board to see how many more are already there that pertain to the same presser or are discussing the same issue. All other moderation is not that tough but merging threads can be tedious.

9. Try to keep topics on the main board general to the all schools or at least a large group of schools. If it is exclusive to your conference then take it to your conference board. I think the mods really need to start moving some of them to bring a semblance of appropriateness back to the main board.

10. I see very few appropriate OT threads. If it doesn't pertain to College Sports or Realignment then take it to the lounge. If it is political take it to the Spin Room. If it is smack we even have a place for that and it is not on this board.

We may be about to have some noteworthy things happening so don't junk up the main board with trash threads period. I know it's the off season and things have been relatively slow, but think before you start a thread and put it in the appropriate forum and we'll be fine.

JR

Everything you just posted is absolutely true...myself at the point and really see no need to bash or belittle...I am Pro Louisville but not anti anything...post my opinion and try not to be too bias towards Louisville or the ACC

(05-10-2016 03:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

1. It's mostly a G5 board here at CS&CR with the majority of posts expressing hurt, anger, or some other negative emotion leveled at the P5. It's misplaced. The networks have been driving expansion for the purpose of maximizing advertising revenue which after all is the crux of their business.

2. The ACC vastly outnumbers the rest of the P5 posters here and childishly does gang up on posters whose views they don't like. This is particularly true of the ACC posters whose schools once comprised the membership of the Old Big East. I chalk it up to old realignment issues, not current ones per se.

3. The CS&CR board is supposed to be a discussion board where all parties can mix. Discussion means no ad hominem attacks, respectful disagreement, and no trolling tactics such as dissembling the current discussion, hijacking the current discussion to a topic ancillary or totally skew of the OP's topic, or endless arguing over minutia smaller than the hairs on a gnats butt to claim a point.

4. When I first came here it was because I enjoyed getting ideas and discussing them with others not from the SEC boards. The perspectives of the Big East, the ACC, the Big 10, and the Big 12 posters and Wedge (sort of our lone PAC guy) were always more fun, and it filled in the gaps in reasoning that you miss when only conversing with those who think just like you do.

5. I agree that UConn fans get short shrift on expressing their joys and accomplishments and overall good news. There is always some jerk, who for the sake of an old grudge or out of some sense of being more important now that their school is no longer seeking a safe harbor, feels the need to level the Karma of the average Husky fan.

6. That said there is no more insufferable group on the board than tattle tail Huskies who report every perceived slight and who concoct schemes of victimization to cajole the moderation team into exacting retribution upon one of their foes. Whiny rat fink tactics doesn't endear them to anyone!

7. I do enjoy some of Kaplony's "Rainbow and Unicorn" applications to the ACC. If there is a close second to Whiny Rat Finks it is the obtuseness of the Pollyannas of the ACC. "Sure we are behind nearly 10 million in revenue but if you compare the 4th, 5th, and 9th, position schools in the Big 10 against our 4th, 5th, and 9th in terms of concessions you will see that hot dog sales alone make up that difference." If you are behind just admit it. The Big 10 can't bust you up if you don't leave. Just quit with all the danged excuses and totally obscure catch up scenarios! And if you are going to cheer lead then at least put on a dress and grow some teats.

8. If you had to spend 1 week as a mod you would learn how time consuming it is to merge threads. So like Wedge has posted don't start one until you've checked the board to see how many more are already there that pertain to the same presser or are discussing the same issue. All other moderation is not that tough but merging threads can be tedious.

9. Try to keep topics on the main board general to the all schools or at least a large group of schools. If it is exclusive to your conference then take it to your conference board. I think the mods really need to start moving some of them to bring a semblance of appropriateness back to the main board.

10. I see very few appropriate OT threads. If it doesn't pertain to College Sports or Realignment then take it to the lounge. If it is political take it to the Spin Room. If it is smack we even have a place for that and it is not on this board.

We may be about to have some noteworthy things happening so don't junk up the main board with trash threads period. I know it's the off season and things have been relatively slow, but think before you start a thread and put it in the appropriate forum and we'll be fine.

JR

Then there is us Notre Dame types that just tease or "ND is Happy where they are" type post.

(05-10-2016 02:47 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:25 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

LOL have you seen what happens when someone posts something positive about UConn? I'd rather never post on here again than post positive things about my school.

UConn's metrics show that it well deserves to be in a P5 conference.

That would be news to the power brokers in the ACC.

(05-10-2016 03:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:47 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:25 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 02:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  Start a B1G Board or better yet just be positive about the school/conference you support....not that hard...

LOL have you seen what happens when someone posts something positive about UConn? I'd rather never post on here again than post positive things about my school.

UConn's metrics show that it well deserves to be in a P5 conference.

That would be news to the power brokers in the ACC.

See, I was trying to be nice and you proved his point.......