DENNIS DODD
Senior Columnist

The eight best program options to join the Big 12 if the league expands

Excerpt: The American – the conference most likely affected – will move on. I had a conversation with American commissioner Mike Aresco here this week. He was almost resigned to losing teams, even suggesting the conference might be stronger with 10.

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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ue-expands

Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

Good question. Under the new rules, it would be legal, and still be able to play a CCG.

But a round robin ensures a replay for the championship. The same problem the Big 12 wrestled with, before apparently going back to 12, or more.

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

(05-06-2016 07:07 PM)TopCoog2016 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

But, but that doesn't help MY school =/

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(05-06-2016 07:10 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 07:07 PM)TopCoog2016 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

But, but that doesn't help MY school =/

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14 is the number for many leagues stay cool. Convince the AAC to add you.

(05-06-2016 07:07 PM)TopCoog2016 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

Not going to debate you, but regardless of which teams leave, I don't see you can possibly ignore the signs saying B12 expansion, with an AAC team or teams, is likely.

Nah 12 just makes so much more sense... which is why the B12 is gonna expand anyway. Be interesting to see who we add.

(05-06-2016 07:10 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 07:07 PM)TopCoog2016 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

But, but that doesn't help MY school =/

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Dude I sure admire your loyalty. I didn't know much about NIU so I googled.. 23K stadium is a bit small by our standards, but I admit that's about where Tulane is so it's certainly possible. Any plans to expand the stadium a bit? How do you guys draw for football?

I remember the BCS bowl year so NIU has certainly tasted a bit of success in recent memory...

(05-06-2016 07:36 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 07:10 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 07:07 PM)TopCoog2016 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

But, but that doesn't help MY school =/

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Dude I sure admire your loyalty. I didn't know much about NIU so I googled.. 23K stadium is a bit small by our standards, but I admit that's about where Tulane is so it's certainly possible. Any plans to expand the stadium a bit? How do you guys draw for football?

I remember the BCS bowl year so NIU has certainly tasted a bit of success in recent memory...

We have a comprehensive plan to expand the stadium as well as enhance the premium areas and make the stadium a horseshoe. It's listed as a 138 million dollar renovation that woukd be privately funded. Would increase our stadium size to 30k immediately with the potential for an expansion to 35k easily and 42k as a max capacity. Renovation will be done in phases, hence the numbers disparity. Here's an article with a general oversight of the project since the PDF is a bit in depth for a light read

http://m.northernstar.info/sports/niu-s-...l?mode=jqm

Our attendance is... atrocious as of late. We used to have sell out crowds and have close to maximum capacity often not too long ago, so I'm not sure what happened. Many speculate our fans are just sick of having to play EMU, Ball st, Akron, etc over and over. Those aren't names that excite anyone after an orange bowl appearance and the fans want more. We show up in force to our big name games, even when we played NW in Chicago, we had at least a 40/60 split of fans in their house so we KNOW the fanbase is their (just likely dormant in Chicago) and as such our AD has begun scheduling games in Chicago locations. We play Toledo at US Cellular field (home of the Chicago White Sox) in November this year to try and tap into our Chicago fanbase like the NW and Soldier field games with Iowa did.



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The AAC (the schools not on the list) should hope BYU is one of the picks. Losing two team could result in lower TV revenues since ESPN aka DISNEY can cancel the contract. With Disney in cost cutting mode, I would be shocked if they did not attempt to low ball a new deal or threaten to terminate. It will be interesting to see what ripples occur if the B12 expands.

(05-06-2016 07:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 07:07 PM)TopCoog2016 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:50 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 06:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Will they split the conference into two 5 team divisions?

9 game round robin top 2 teams in CCG

Those are the 2 alternatives. OR, add 2 teams and get back to 12, assuming we lose two, which that phrasing sounds like ("teams" and "maybe stronger at 10.").

this is just nuts. we have 12 good schools in our league and that will continue.

Not going to debate you, but regardless of which teams leave, I don't see you can possibly ignore the signs saying B12 expansion, with an AAC team or teams, is likely.

Agree. Though you should never underestimate the hard wired tendency of UT to block things just because they can.

It makes a TON of sense that the AAC would be stronger with 10 than expanding (in the wake of a Big 12 raid)

With scarcer resources, spreading the revenue to 10 teams allows them a more solid foundation to succeed.

There simply aren't any schools (beyond Western expansion) that are strong enough to be a net plus, while 10 other AAC schools take a dock in pay.

The same reporters that are praising the purity of the Big 12's current round robin would use the same league structure against the AAC.

I'm completely fine with playing at 10. Now that we've replenished our basketball coaching ranks (to rival our football coaching ranks) I'm comfortable that we've developed enough to go forward with a round robin league.

Besides, it looks like our best football programs will likely remain with the American.

If the AAC expands in the future, it needs to give the landscape time to produce a viable producer.

By the way, Dodds is a dewsh.

How many other teams took a huge jump in revenue when they changed the logos on their jerseys. The only difference between the AAC programs is the revenue that's been blocked from them. Open up the spigot and there is no difference.

The CBS list is garbage, ESPNs list had Tulane on it which I think is much more realistic. All these schools thumping their chests about wins and championships which mean absolutely nothing. It's about academics and markets which makes Tulane the top choice.

(05-06-2016 08:19 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  The AAC (the schools not on the list) should hope BYU is one of the picks. Losing two team could result in lower TV revenues since ESPN aka DISNEY can cancel the contract. With Disney in cost cutting mode, I would be shocked if they did not attempt to low ball a new deal or threaten to terminate. It will be interesting to see what ripples occur if the B12 expands.

They are not going to cancel the contract. Even under the current conditions, they know they got a great below market value deal. They essentially bought us at the foreclosure auction. The AAC delivers 75% of P5 ratings at 10% of the cost. If they cancelled it, its very likely we'd end up making MORE. CBS, NBC, and likely Fox would all be interested now that we have an established track record of performance. ESPN, who is presently about lose all their Big10 content is going to be looking to us to fill many of those broadcast slots.

(05-06-2016 09:40 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  It makes a TON of sense that the AAC would be stronger with 10 than expanding (in the wake of a Big 12 raid)

With scarcer resources, spreading the revenue to 10 teams allows them a more solid foundation to succeed.

There simply aren't any schools (beyond Western expansion) that are strong enough to be a net plus, while 10 other AAC schools take a dock in pay.

The same reporters that are praising the purity of the Big 12's current round robin would use the same league structure against the AAC.

I'm completely fine with playing at 10. Now that we've replenished our basketball coaching ranks (to rival our football coaching ranks) I'm comfortable that we've developed enough to go forward with a round robin league.

Besides, it looks like our best football programs will likely remain with the American.

If the AAC expands in the future, it needs to give the landscape time to produce a viable producer.

Spot on

I see nothing more is needed here in this ^^^ post simply adding and calling Dodd a dewsh quickly after this post... Well thought out written post, BigEastHomer +3

(05-06-2016 10:03 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  The CBS list is garbage, ESPNs list had Tulane on it which I think is much more realistic. All these schools thumping their chests about wins and championships which mean absolutely nothing. It's about academics and markets which makes Tulane the top choice.

I won't deny Tulane has merit which they could absolutely bring to a Power conference. Plus they've been there before, helps their case a lot

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