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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
I don't think they acted snobby. I just think they acted according to their common ethics and convictions.

Liberty U. will not be accepted as a contemporary or equal into todays social, political, academic climate amongst universities. There is no room for open and free thinking in education, thus LU will be excluded.

The only path for FBS status is through Independence. And that path, by rule, has not been opened yet.
05-22-2016 05:42 PM
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(05-22-2016 05:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(05-22-2016 02:45 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(05-22-2016 01:39 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(05-21-2016 07:38 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It's rather frustrating as a Liberty fan and graduate and I'd rather be in any other FBS conference or independent than the Sun Belt due to their constant denial of Liberty.

Hasn't every FBS conference kind of denied y'all though? I think y'all would be a good add though.

The MAC has been at 12 or more for some time now. They haven't had a reason to expand and by effectively kicking out UMass (inviting them knowing they would decline and end up independent), they have no reason to expand over 12. CUSA is already past 12 and has no reason to expand. Liberty was a candidate but the conference went other directions pretty early in discussions (as far as I know).

The Sun Belt seemed to reluctantly look at Liberty. They effectively held their noses towards Liberty and even used Liberty as a pawn to try to get JMU to accept an invitation. The Sun Belt has acted snobby and too good for Liberty despite being the bottom of the FBS totem pole.

I realize the top part. I just meant that if some other conference thought you were worthy they'd add you regardless of their numbers situation.

I'm curious how the Sun Belt has acted snobby?

I believe the Sun Belt acted snobby because I question whether or not they had any intention of having Liberty as a real candidate or if they were used just to lure JMU. Since JMU gave an emphatic no thanks (or at least a not right now), Liberty has dropped off the radar form the Sun Belt. I only say that because I think the Sun Belt was feigning interest in Liberty to push JMU into accepting an invite and scare them into thinking that if they said no then Liberty would get the slot.

Last year, the Sun Belt chose Coastal Carolina out of a pool that contained Eastern Kentucky and New Mexico State. Liberty has allegedly offered the Sun Belt $10 million to join. Liberty has allegedly applied for membership multiple times over the past years and they don't even get brought up to be voted upon. Liberty is clearly committed to spending money and attempting to improve themselves. Liberty is serious about trying to be the best athletically and academically. The Sun Belt is ignoring a candidate that wants to be there, that has so much to offer, and improves the conference. But Liberty is different so they are ignored.
05-22-2016 09:50 PM
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I think if it were up to the commissioner, Benson we would already be a member. The commissioner looks out for the best of the conference. He pushed Liberty hard to the presidents because he knew we would be best for the conference. The presidents are more political in nature and couldn't extend an invite even though they HAD to know Liberty was the best option to raise the profile of the conference.

I agree with Mike, the only path to FBS I see is to petition the NCAA about coming in as an independent.
05-23-2016 03:21 PM
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(05-23-2016 03:21 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  I think if it were up to the commissioner, Benson we would already be a member. The commissioner looks out for the best of the conference. He pushed Liberty hard to the presidents because he knew we would be best for the conference. The presidents are more political in nature and couldn't extend an invite even though they HAD to know Liberty was the best option to raise the profile of the conference.

I agree with Mike, the only path to FBS I see is to petition the NCAA about coming in as an independent.
LU's path to FBS, barring unforeseen CUSA/SBC additions/deletions is indy. How long will LU wait for the indy opportunity from a reg change from the NCAA? I'm betting it's 3 years, 5 years tops before LU challenges the invite only rule. Will LU wait patiently for 5+ years for an invite? I'd wager LU will not wait past 5 years and then will challenge and win the invite only rule. Now the athletic challenges that brings in scheduling (FB), and where the olympic sports find affiliation homes and the like, is a much different story.

When the topic is about bring lower division teams to maintain the Big South, you know that has to gnaw on the powers at LU with those discussions. It gnaws on me.
05-28-2016 11:56 AM
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We would stay in the Big South in all sports except football. That would not create an issue. But scheduling for football might be a headache, but possible.
05-28-2016 07:10 PM
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Are there any artist renderings of The Bill with a tower added to the student side and the endzone closed off with seats?
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With the official announcement made at commencement at LU of teams that LU will be playing in FBS, it seems like a good time to rekindle the talk about seating expansion of Williams Stadium. Can anyone share the latest rumors/announcements? We know there will be an expansion with the questions being how much and when?
05-13-2017 10:23 AM
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I am hearing that plans are being tweaked but we could begin construction as early as November on the students side tower.
05-13-2017 09:52 PM
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Time to expand Williams Stadium
They already intend to tear down the visiting locker room correct? The new one they build should incorporate stands and boxes to create a horseshoe.

And of course the new tower and second tier of seating on the student side will make our stadium oustanding.
05-14-2017 02:19 AM
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(05-14-2017 02:19 AM)army56mike Wrote:  They already intend to tear down the visiting locker room correct? The new one they build should incorporate stands and boxes to create a horseshoe.

And of course the new tower and second tier of seating on the student side will make our stadium oustanding.

They already tore it down before commencement.
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