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Big 12 Fanatics Media Matters Analysis
Lots of good stuff in here. It has the post-season analysis and then links to an analysis of all three tiers.

Of particular note to me was this in the Tier 3 analysis:

"The interesting thing is that most believe that conference networks are created to reap huge windfalls of money due to how cable channels are bundled. However, creating the channel and it making money is more an offshoot of the conference receiving exposure for the broadcast. As conferences grew in size, they had more games to put on the air. Those established channels, however, per our lead into this topic, only have so much space available to show a game. ESPN, for instance, only has space for four games on a Saturday, but there are thirty three football games shown on average each week.

Thirty three football games is enough to fill eight channels for twelve hours on Saturdays, not including highly profitable sports commentary shows, like College Gameday. There simply isn’t space to pay for them all as the bulk of college football games don’t have large audiences.

Of the 470+ games that are broadcast in a season, only 256 of them are rated by Nielsen to track how large their audience may be. The rest of the games, e.g. those that are not rated, are considered to have “negligible” viewing audiences. Of 256 rated games, half of them have audiences under a million people. To put that in perspective, that is lower than recent episodes of Spongebob Squarepants, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Property Brothers, American Pickers, or reruns of Full House. Just to name a few.

On the other end of the spectrum, Madam Secretary, which you may never have tuned into, averages a higher audience per week on CBS than the best SEC games generate in any given season and twice as much as the average audience of all of the SEC on CBS games. College football, even in the SEC or Big Ten, is not the NFL, where tens of millions of people tune in to every game.


Each conference has big names and strong teams and sports benefits from 93% of it is watched live, which makes it a premium. However, The risk for networks is estimating who may have good seasons, because above all as was shown in the past two analysis, winning teams generate the biggest audiences."


I also noted this:


"When looking at the value of a Tier Three package, you really need to look at where a university pulls its students. Some schools draw nationally and have a smaller group of local students. Most state schools, on the other hand, draw primarily from an area of about three to four hundred miles around the university. Let’s look at two ways schools have handled this same situation differently.

Notre Dame is located in Northern Indiana, just east from Chicago. While it definitely has a local presence and is quite popular in Chicago, particularly on the South Side, its alumni are in two main bands. The first resides within the metroplex from Boston to DC, an area of nearly fifty million people nowhere near South Bend, Indiana. The second grouping is on the West Coast, namely California.

When Notre Dame considered how to work its sports conference affiliation, being tied to a Midwestern or Southern conference made little sense. Instead it made a deal with the ACC, to play five football games a year against the conference, which had schools up and down the east coast, including Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Florida and Virginia. The rest of their football schedule allowed them to ensure they kept games against USC and Stanford to keep their West Coast ties, while the rest of their non-football sports would bundle up within the ACC’s Tier Two and Three media deal with ESPN, where all of their men’s and women’s teams would be featured on the East Coast.

It is a perfect match for what the university is trying to market."


Anyway, I thought there was a lot of discussion stuff in there, including the highlighted portion which seems to say that branding matters even in a conference network/carriage situation.



http://big12fanatics.com/media-matters-2...st-season/
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(05-03-2016 02:14 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Lots of good stuff in here. It has the post-season analysis and then links to an analysis of all three tiers.

Of particular note to me was this in the Tier 3 analysis:

"The interesting thing is that most believe that conference networks are created to reap huge windfalls of money due to how cable channels are bundled. However, creating the channel and it making money is more an offshoot of the conference receiving exposure for the broadcast. As conferences grew in size, they had more games to put on the air. Those established channels, however, per our lead into this topic, only have so much space available to show a game. ESPN, for instance, only has space for four games on a Saturday, but there are thirty three football games shown on average each week.

Thirty three football games is enough to fill eight channels for twelve hours on Saturdays, not including highly profitable sports commentary shows, like College Gameday. There simply isn’t space to pay for them all as the bulk of college football games don’t have large audiences.

Of the 470+ games that are broadcast in a season, only 256 of them are rated by Nielsen to track how large their audience may be. The rest of the games, e.g. those that are not rated, are considered to have “negligible” viewing audiences. Of 256 rated games, half of them have audiences under a million people. To put that in perspective, that is lower than recent episodes of Spongebob Squarepants, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Property Brothers, American Pickers, or reruns of Full House. Just to name a few.

On the other end of the spectrum, Madam Secretary, which you may never have tuned into, averages a higher audience per week on CBS than the best SEC games generate in any given season and twice as much as the average audience of all of the SEC on CBS games. College football, even in the SEC or Big Ten, is not the NFL, where tens of millions of people tune in to every game.


Each conference has big names and strong teams and sports benefits from 93% of it is watched live, which makes it a premium. However, The risk for networks is estimating who may have good seasons, because above all as was shown in the past two analysis, winning teams generate the biggest audiences."


I also noted this:


"When looking at the value of a Tier Three package, you really need to look at where a university pulls its students. Some schools draw nationally and have a smaller group of local students. Most state schools, on the other hand, draw primarily from an area of about three to four hundred miles around the university. Let’s look at two ways schools have handled this same situation differently.

Notre Dame is located in Northern Indiana, just east from Chicago. While it definitely has a local presence and is quite popular in Chicago, particularly on the South Side, its alumni are in two main bands. The first resides within the metroplex from Boston to DC, an area of nearly fifty million people nowhere near South Bend, Indiana. The second grouping is on the West Coast, namely California.

When Notre Dame considered how to work its sports conference affiliation, being tied to a Midwestern or Southern conference made little sense. Instead it made a deal with the ACC, to play five football games a year against the conference, which had schools up and down the east coast, including Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Florida and Virginia. The rest of their football schedule allowed them to ensure they kept games against USC and Stanford to keep their West Coast ties, while the rest of their non-football sports would bundle up within the ACC’s Tier Two and Three media deal with ESPN, where all of their men’s and women’s teams would be featured on the East Coast.

It is a perfect match for what the university is trying to market."


Anyway, I thought there was a lot of discussion stuff in there, including the highlighted portion which seems to say that branding matters even in a conference network/carriage situation.



http://big12fanatics.com/media-matters-2...st-season/

Good Info. Thanks for the link.
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Yeah. Notre Dame was never joining the Big 12. Way more Catholics live in the ACC states than in Kansas, Iowa and Oklahoma.

The ND AD was just using Deloss Dodds' delusions of grandeur to negotiate a better deal with the ACC, namely 5 guaranteed games per year instead of six.
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(05-03-2016 03:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Yeah. Notre Dame was never joining the Big 12. Way more Catholics live in the ACC states than in Kansas, Iowa and Oklahoma.

The ND AD was just using Deloss Dodds' delusions of grandeur to negotiate a better deal with the ACC, namely 5 guaranteed games per year instead of six.

While obviously the ND stuff was interesting to me, I thought the bigger takeaway from the article was how poorly college football really does, TV wise, compared to both the NFL and regular network programming and how very dependent the whole thing is on a fairly small number of anchor schools like Alabama, Ohio State, etc...
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(05-03-2016 03:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 03:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Yeah. Notre Dame was never joining the Big 12. Way more Catholics live in the ACC states than in Kansas, Iowa and Oklahoma.

The ND AD was just using Deloss Dodds' delusions of grandeur to negotiate a better deal with the ACC, namely 5 guaranteed games per year instead of six.

While obviously the ND stuff was interesting to me, I thought the bigger takeaway from the article was how poorly college football really does, TV wise, compared to both the NFL and regular network programming and how very dependent the whole thing is on a fairly small number of anchor schools like Alabama, Ohio State, etc...

That was my takeaway as well.

Sounds like college football needs to implement more cartoonish graphics in its scorecard and statistics and have a mouse or sea sponge doing the color commentary. Or get John Stamos and Dave Coulier in the box.
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I thought it was interesting that the ACC is once again in the top 3 of most watched games during the postseason, similar to the regular season. Only during the post season, that league is #2 as opposed to the regular season, its #3. The SEC is miles ahead of the ACC who has the BIG nipping at its heals, while the B12 and Pac are miles behind the ACC and BIG. The PAC is surprisingly low viewership.
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(05-03-2016 04:35 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I thought it was interesting that the ACC is once again in the top 3 of most watched games during the postseason, similar to the regular season. Only during the post season, that league is #2 as opposed to the regular season, its #3. The SEC is miles ahead of the ACC who has the BIG nipping at its heals, while the B12 and Pac are miles behind the ACC and BIG. The PAC is surprisingly low viewership.

But when you take out the title game with its huge numbers, The Big 10 and Big 12 have a slight lead in viewers/game with the SEC and ACC close and Pac 12 trailing.
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I wonder how Madame Secretary would do if all the major dramas for the entire week were shown on Saturday? How it would do on cable like TbS instead of network like CBS?

On the flip side, occasionally Tuesday night MACtion draws more than 1 million viewers.

In other words, the comparisons the article tries to draw are specious.
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(05-03-2016 04:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 04:35 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I thought it was interesting that the ACC is once again in the top 3 of most watched games during the postseason, similar to the regular season. Only during the post season, that league is #2 as opposed to the regular season, its #3. The SEC is miles ahead of the ACC who has the BIG nipping at its heals, while the B12 and Pac are miles behind the ACC and BIG. The PAC is surprisingly low viewership.

But when you take out the title game with its huge numbers, The Big 10 and Big 12 have a slight lead in viewers/game with the SEC and ACC close and Pac 12 trailing.

So in other words, you take Clemsons title game numbers out, while taking away one of the ACC's bowl team numbers. And Clemson's viewers would not be accounted for at all? But that's not how it works. Clemsons tv ratings have to be accounted for some how. You cant just erase one of the ACC's bowl teams. The ACC had the second highest tv ratings and jockeying with the BIG, just like the regular season. It is what it is!
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What interests me is that Nielsen ranks games by viewers with more than 1 million viewers. Boise State when on ESPN and ESPN 2, always get more than a million viewers. Their biggest draw was when they took on P5 opponents.
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