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RE: CUSA expected to get $425,000 per team w/ new TV deal
(05-09-2016 12:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (05-09-2016 12:12 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: (05-08-2016 11:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (05-08-2016 11:25 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: Your numbers aren't reflected in the financial statement La Tech provides the Louisiana System, and that is an official government document. Yours looks like a an Excel spreadsheet.
Those numbers came from USA Today which I assume came from the numbers reported to our fine government that needs to know everything about federal tax exemption. If not a opens record request.
Yes I put them in a spreadsheet...
My only concern in any of this...I like numbers and I look at more than one or two things to value something. I fully understand most people/fans are only going to look at the very public things...TV contract. Bowl payout. Those things. There are others that adds value to a conference. As I said I don't know what all is involved in those numbers. But I do know they went up for every former SBC school. I do know that both new additions to the SBC (APP/GASO) dollars went up when they joined the SBC.
So I assume it reflects conference money (bowl payout, tv, ncaa) and money each school made on deals of their own.
I honestly could care less if the SBC makes more per-school on those pay outs because of the lower number of schools involved. That's only one part of a larger picture. In the end I think CUSA was the better home for Western. I don't like everything about it...
to me the bowl game location are not best for me (personally)
I liked the travel for most of the SBC (personally)
While the basketball side of CUSA has been a let down. I don't base things on 1 to 2 years. It's a long journey and in that I think CUSA basketball will find it's way. And in that will be the better conference..handsdown. Hasn't looked that way so far but it'll get there.
So my only fight in this is to point out there is a larger picture..than just one or two things. Another one is being ranked in football...that's a value. Don't know how you put a money value on it...but there is one. I don't believe Western gets ranked if playing in the SBC.
Since you are too lazy to click on a link that would contradict your point, I'll try to spell it out.
NCAA distribution for 2014/15:
ULM: 897,088
ULL:1,295,517
LTU: 1,155,812
Conference distribution
ULM: 1,372,981
ULL: 1,050,000
LTU: 1,422,273
Royalties, licensing, advertisements, and sponsorships
ULM: 170,457
ULL: 948,931
LTU: 290,213
Media rights
ULM: 0
ULL: 43,070
LTU: 1,010,717
Total
ULM: 2,440,526
ULL: 3,337,518
LTU: 3,879,015
Were it not for the media rights, ULL would have been ahead and ULM would have been even. That is as close to an apples-to-apples comparison as you'll ever find.
Those number validate the numbers I posted from USA Today... so what is your point?
You are looking at a CUSA school that is listed next to last in the conference vs a school that is listed 2nd in the SBC .....
So if you believe those numbers (they are off but not by much) then all the numbers are correct. It means that each and every former SBC schools has increased their dollars by millions since joining CUSA.
But what it also shows....the SBC has ZERO VALUE....ZERO ZERO ZERO to it's members as far as a dollar amount for the SBC TV contract with espn.
ULM list...ZERO and I assume ULL's is from local ads since it's under 50k
Take the million from each of those former SBC and we are still talking about a HUGE difference since joining CUSA
By the way, comparing revenue generated during the most recent year compared to x-amount of years ago when a team was in a former conference is a terrible way to make a point. It implies that the ONLY way that a school made more money was from changing conferences, but the fact that they were from different years adds too many variables to account for. I.e., Western Kentucky, while in the Sun Belt for 5 seasons had an overall record of 24-37. Granted, by the end of its tenure there it was trending up, but to put that into perspective, in its two seasons in CUSA, WKU's record is 20-7. WKU won almost as many games in two seasons in CUSA as it did in 5 seasons in the 'Belt. So it isn't a stretch to say that maybe it got more money not because WKU moved to CUSA, but because they were overall a better and more popular team. In fact, just as an example of that, WKU averaged 15,947 fans per game while in the Sun Belt, as opposed to 17,132 fans per game while in CUSA. That's added revenue. And before you state that that added revenue is due to moving to CUSA because those extra fans only came because of playing CUSA teams, i'll point out that WKU actually had more fans come to their games in their last year in the 'Belt (18,334 average per game) than they have in either season in CUSA (which should be troubling if those CUSA teams are more desirable to play against). The point being, WKU was trending upwards, and so ticket sales, merchandise sales, etc, all can account for those increases in revenue, and those can have nothing to do with conference change.
A better measure would be to compare the amount of money CUSA teams brought in compared to Sun Belt teams on the same year. Then take into account the loss of money due to a worse TV contract, and you'll get an idea of where the two conferences stand. By my count, CUSA has a slight edge, but by and large the two conferences overlap pretty evenly.
(This post was last modified: 05-10-2016 11:18 AM by itsmeagain.)
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